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TNR Exclusive: A Collection of Ron Paul’s Most Incendiary Newsletters

from Kai

1: How could a newsletter have Ron Pauls voice? I could have sworn that a newsletter was written on paper...which doesn't have sound....

It is called writing in the first person. In other words, Ron Paul speaking directly in his voice to the reader.


2: It has been proven that the newsletters were written by ghostwriters. IE Ron Paul did not write them.

That is immaterial and shows you do not yet realize who you are trying to appeal to. Libertarians on these sort of sites are used to being the pimple on the body politics ass so they never ever concern themselves with the larger picture of actually winning elections. So you obsess and settle for you own imagined 'victories' in internet arguments. Its funny - its sad - its pathetic in the extreme but is pure libertarianism.

All American knows -all Americans care to know - is whose name was on that damn piece of extremist trash and they know who to hold responsible. Its really that clean and that clear cut and for libertarians not to realize that shows just how far they are removed from the real game.


3: There is no proof that Ron Paul even read the newsletters. Unless you really want to count the blog from someone who was fired? Should I offer to make that blog again?

See my answer to your point #2. It is irrelevant if he wrote every word or not one word. It is irrelevant if he signed every page as his own staffer says or he never ever saw one. It means nothing. The damn pieces of extremism trash have his name on them and Ron Paul owns them. That is all that matters.

Some how I doubt that you actually want him to do well. Or maybe you do? Maybe you want him in the primaries because if he is you think that Obama will have a chance of winning the election.

I am telling you the straight truth without any sugar on it. I honestly want Paul to do well for the next several months. Heck, if he got the nomination I would consider it Christmas in summer. But I know not to wish for what is impossible. So instead I stay optimistically realistic. Hoping that Paul wins in Iowa, does well in South Carolina, wins in Virginia as the STOP ROMNEY candidate of last resort, and along the way gets royally dissed, cheated and screwed by the Republican establishment on the way to the convention. It would be a bonus if anyone but Romney then won.

That is all I was hoping for.

Now if Romney gets it, my next best scenario is for the angry as a hornet Paulites to demand that their hero run as a third party candidate and he does. That would be a great bonus like winning the new Lincoln with your winnings from the craps table as you leave the Vegas casino.

Sadly, Paul himself is screwing all this up with his horrid handling of the newsletter scandal. I had better hopes for him and perhaps i should have known better given the raw materials.

And thats the truth.
 

This is the second time you've misspelled this. Please correct this mistake. It is Kal not Kai.

It is called writing in the first person. In other words, Ron Paul speaking directly in his voice to the reader.

All written by ghostwriters. So obviously Ron Paul was NOT directly speaking anything.

That is immaterial and shows you do not yet realize who you are trying to appeal to. Libertarians on these sort of sites are used to being the pimple on the body politics ass so they never ever concern themselves with the larger picture of actually winning elections. So you obsess and settle for you own imagined 'victories' in internet arguments. Its funny - its sad - its pathetic in the extreme but is pure libertarianism.

Yawn.

All American knows -all Americans care to know - is whose name was on that damn piece of extremist trash and they know who to hold responsible. Its really that clean and that clear cut and for libertarians not to realize that shows just how far they are removed from the real game.

And he has disavowed that he wrote them. The fact that we know that ghostwriters actually wrote them should be enough for anyone with any intelligence to believe that his disavowment is true.

See my answer to your point #2. It is irrelevant if he wrote every word or not one word. It is irrelevant if he signed every page as his own staffer says or he never ever saw one. It means nothing. The damn pieces of extremism trash have his name on them and Ron Paul owns them. That is all that matters.

It only matters to those that do not seek the truth but instead have a partisan take on everything. As far as I am concerned no one needs votes from partisan hacks anyways.

I am telling you the straight truth without any sugar on it. I honestly want Paul to do well for the next several months. Heck, if he got the nomination I would consider it Christmas in summer. But I know not to wish for what is impossible. So instead I stay optimistically realistic. Hoping that Paul wins in Iowa, does well in South Carolina, wins in Virginia as the STOP ROMNEY candidate of last resort, and along the way gets royally dissed, cheated and screwed by the Republican establishment on the way to the convention. It would be a bonus if anyone but Romney then won.

That is all I was hoping for.

Now if Romney gets it, my next best scenario is for the angry as a hornet Paulites to demand that their hero run as a third party candidate and he does. That would be a great bonus like winning the new Lincoln with your winnings from the craps table as you leave the Vegas casino.

Sadly, Paul himself is screwing all this up with his horrid handling of the newsletter scandal. I had better hopes for him and perhaps i should have known better given the raw materials.

And thats the truth.

It might be the truth. But it certainly is not the whole truth. Sorry haymarket but this thread has shown that you are too much against libertarians to actually want one to do well unless there was some sort of negative agenda on your part.
 
This is getting hugely hilarious Kal. I tell you things straight out with no ambiguity at all and you just do not get it.

It matters not if you can explain away to your fellow randroids the Ron Paul newsletters. There are folks among the Paul supporters who could watch him sacrifice a newborn baby on a black altar and they would could come up with something that allows them to continue worshipping him. Their support is irrelevant. All American knows -all Americans care to know - is whose name was on that damn piece of extremist trash and they know who to hold responsible. Its really that clean and that clear cut and for libertarians not to realize that shows just how far they are removed from the real game.

And I am beginning to think libertarians here do not even know what game they are attempting to play.

This has nothing to do with intelligence. It has everything to do with damage control. And right now, the guy we both want to do well over the next few months, is doing horribly at it.

When the NY Times runs lengthy articles on people from Stormfront volunteering for your campaign - the swirl down the bowl has already begun. Unless something is done to plug it up, the noise you next hear will be Paul being sucked down the vortex to the sewage plant.

The only way he can do that is to follow the plan I described.
 
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what a racist...
 
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December 23, 2011 | 12:00 am
For years, Ron Paul published a series of newsletters that dispensed political news and investment advice, but also routinely indulged in bigotry. Here's a selection of some especially inflammatory passages, with links to scanned images of the original documents in which they appeared.
Race
A Special Issue on Racial Terrorism” analyzes the Los Angeles riots of 1992: “Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began. ... What if the checks had never arrived? No doubt the blacks would have fully privatized the welfare state through continued looting. But they were paid off and the violence subsided.”
The November 1990 issue of the Political Report had kind words for David Duke.
This December 1990 newsletter describes Martin Luther King Jr. as “a world-class adulterer” who “seduced underage girls and boys” and “replaced the evil of forced segregation with the evil of forced integration.”
A February 1991 newsletter attacks “The X-Rated Martin Luther King.”
An October 1990 edition of the Political Report ridicules black activists, led by Al Sharpton, for demonstrating at the Statue of Liberty in favor of renaming New York City after Martin Luther King. The newsletter suggests that “Welfaria,” “Zooville,” “Rapetown,” “Dirtburg,”and “Lazyopolis ” would be better alternatives—and says, “Next time, hold that demonstration at a food stamp bureau or a crack house.”
A May 1990 issue of the Ron Paul Political Reportcites Jared Taylor, who six months later would go onto found the eugenicist and white supremacist periodical American Renaissance.

The January 1993 issue of the Survival Report worries about America’s “disappearing white majority.”
The July 1992 Ron Paul Political Reportdeclares, “Jury verdicts, basketball games, and even music are enough to set off black rage, it seems,” and defends David Duke. The author of the newsletter—presumably Paul—writes, “My youngest son is starting his fourth year in medical school. He tells me there would be no way to persuade his fellow students of the case for economic liberty.”
A March 1993 Survival Reportdescribes Bill Clinton’s supposedly “illegitimate children, black and white: ‘woods colts’ in backwoods slang.”
Gays
The December 1989 Ron Paul Political Reportcontains entries on a “new form of racial terrorism,” cites former Congressman Bill Dannemeyer’s claim that “the average homosexual has 1,000 or more partners in a lifetime,” and quotes Lew Rockwell, president of the Ludwig von Mises Institute, in the third person.
In January 1990, the Ron Paul Political Report cites “a well-known libertarian editor” who “told me: ‘The ACT-UP slogan on stickers plastered all over Manhattan is ‘Silence=Death.’ But shouldn’t it be Sodomy = Death’?”
The September 1994 issue of the Ron Paul Survival Reportstates that “those who don’t commit sodomy, who don’t get blood a transfusion, and who don’t swap needles, are virtually assured of not getting AIDS unless they are deliberately infected by a malicious gay.”
The June 1990 issue of the Political Report says: “I miss the closet. Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities.”
A January 1994 edition of the Survival Report states that "gays in San Francisco do not obey the dictates of good sense," adding: "[T]hese men don't really see a reason to live past their fifties. They are not married, they have no children, and their lives are centered on new sexual partners." Also, "they enjoy the attention and pity that comes with being sick."
Survivalism and Militias
The January 1995 issue of the Survival Report—released just three months before the Oklahoma City bombing—cites an anti-government militia’s advice to other militias, including, “Don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.”
The October 1992 issue of the Political Report paraphrases an “ex-cop” who offers this strategy for protecting against “urban youth”:“If you have to use a gun on a youth, you should leave the scene immediately, disposing of the wiped off gun as soon as possible. Such a gun cannot, of course, be registered to you, but one bought privately (through the classifieds, for example).”
Conspiracies
This 1978 newsletter says the Trilateral Commission is “no longer known only by those who are knowledgeable about international conspiracies, but is routinely mentioned in the daily news.”
Middle East
A 1989 newsletter compares Salman Rushdie to Ernst Zundel, a Canadian Holocaust-denier.
Anti-Government Paranoia/Conspiracy Theories/Survivalism
A fundraising letter from Paul’s 1984 Senate campaign in which Paul complains about the “minions of Kissinger and Rockefeller” and “the big New York banks, and their pals in Texas” who “want me silenced.”
The January 1988 Ron Paul Political Reportapprovingly cites Dr. William C. Douglass, who “believes that AIDS is a deliberately engineered hybrid” developed at a World Health Organization experiment conducted at Ft. Detrick. Douglass has long been a fringe medical guru, and today claims that “smoking can help you live longer!!!”
The November 1989 Ron Paul Political Reportreports on the Bohemian Grove and Ronald Reagan’s “old Trilateralist agenda item of four-year terms for Congressmen.”
This 1993 Ron Paul Strategy Guideentitled, “How to Protect Yourself from Urban Violence,” is a special supplement to the Ron Paul Survival Report.

In the April 1993 Ron Paul Survival Report, the author—writing in the first person—states, “Whether [the 1993 World Trade Center bombing] was a setup by the Israeli Mossad, as a Jewish friend of mine suspects, or was truly a retaliation by the Islamic fundamentalists, matters little.” The newsletters also warns readers to “do your very best to keep your family away from inner cities. If you can’t, have a haven remote from the metropolitan areas.”
The May 1995 issue of the Ron Paul Survival Reportwarns of “The Trilateralist Alan Greenspan” and its author writes, “Now that my five children are grown and educated, I’ve listened to the many supporters who’ve urged me to return to office. I can now give up my medical practice, and dedicate every fiber of my being to saving our country.” The newsletter also contains an advertisement for the Ron Paul congressional exploratory committee.
The September 1995 issue of the Ron Paul Survival Reportasks about “Black Helicopters?”
The June 1996 issue of the Ron Paul Survival Reportrefers to Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms officers as “Jackbooted Thugs.”
Jews
The November 1992 Ron Paul Survival Reportdefends chess champion and Holocaust-denier Bobby Fischer, saying that “the brilliant Fischer, who has all the makings of an American hero, is very politically incorrect on Jewish questions, for which he will never be forgiven, even though he is a Jew. Thus we are not supposed to herald him as the world’s greatest chess player.”
Pat Buchanan
In January 1992, Paul writes about his consideration of a presidential bid which he dashed after Pat Buchanan expressed his intention to run. Paul wrote of “the essential compatibility between [Buchanan’s] ideas and mine” and “agreed to serve as the chairman of his economic advisory committee.”

A 1992 issue of the Rothbard-Rockwell-Report tells of Paul’s decision to defer to Pat Buchanan in the 1992 Republican presidential primary.

Newsletter Authorship
The masthead of March 1987 Ron Paul Investment Letterlists “the Hon. Ron Paul” as “Editor and Publisher” and “Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.” as one of several contributing editors.
An undated personal solicitation letter—signed by Paul—asking the recipient to subscribe to his newsletter in anticipation of (presumably) the 1988 Libertarian Party Presidential nominating convention.
The April 1988 Ron Paul Investment Letter lists Paul as Editor.
The May 1988 Ron Paul Investment Letter lists Lew Rockwell as Editor. It also advertises books by the far-right conspiracy theorist Gary Allen, who was a contributing editor to the Ron Paul Investment Letter."

TNR Exclusive: A Collection Of Ron Paul

Dr. Paul couldn't have possibly known what was in the letters that made him a fat return..... ya sure.

But worse then all of this is:

CAFTA: More Bureaucracy, Less Free Trade by Rep. Ron Paul

We don't need government agreements to have free trade. We merely need to lower or eliminate tariffs, without regard to what other nations do.

This guy is a true believer in globalism: Ron Paul: "Nothing to fear from global currency" (C-SPAN 3/13/2001) - YouTube



Ron Paul is no globalist dabbler like the neocons, he's a full on 100% globalist, which is what makes him very dangerous.

This video of Ron Paul is from 2001, before 911, before wage collapse from Free Trade, before the Communist Mexican marches from Open Borders, before the Libertarian Party rewrote Open Borders out of their Party Platform.
 
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explains it best

if you listen carefully, he advocates a single non-fiat currency (which means anything can be the thing as long as the market freely accepts it) as much as he advocates voluntary contracts, that means you do not have to be forced to use that currency if you do not wish to. In a fiat system ppl are forced to use it through taxation and arbitrary law statutes by the government. Ron PAul does not support globalism and global governance in any way.

fresniak 3 weeks ago

Back to bed i go...(drinks hot coco)
 
The Paul extremist newsletter problem may not bother some of his most ardent supporters but it is not going away. His explaination that he was not responsible despite his name on the masthead is not being accepted aroundthe country outside of his own circle of support.

Four years ago, the extremist content of the Paul newsletters got some national play but it was a minor story that did not gain much traction. This time, with Paul rising in the polls and actually leading in Iowa two weeks ago, its front page news.

GOP Presidential candidate Ron Paul has attempted to walk a very fine line with a high risk strategy on the newsletters that is baffling to anybody outside of the normal libertarian circles. Even though they were published under the name RON PAUL he claims he was not responsible for them and in fact did not even read them or know what was in them until years later. Washing his hands of the extremist newsletters in a Pontius Pilate gesture may well satisfy the hardcore Paul supporters but it only spurs on lengthy articles from major publications like the New York Times who want answers along the lines of "just who is responsible for the content of those newsletters?"

To steal a line from another publication: inquiring minds want to know.



If Ron Paul is not responsible - or does not want to be held accountable - for the content of his own newsletters with his name on them - then who exactly is? Who did have the job of overseeing the newsletter? Who was paid to do that job? Who had final say about the contents and who else worked on it? It should not be difficult to get a definitive answer to those questions.

In a few days, the people of Iowa meet in caucus. Yesterday they read this in the states largest newspaper: The Des Moines Register said this yesterday: Paul's bigoted newsletters need answers - Congressman's excuses and explanations have been lame

Perhaps the reason Paul continues to be “pestered” about his newsletters is that his explanations for their content strains credibility. The newsletters were variously titled Ron Paul’s Freedom Report, the Ron Paul Survival Report, the Ron Paul Political Report and the Ron Paul Investment Letter. He was listed on mastheads as the editor and publisher. The articles in question carried no bylines, but some had personal references unique to Paul. It is hard to accept that someone in his employ could use a newsletter bearing Paul’s name and photo to spread vile content that he did not approve of, that it could occur repeatedly over the course of several years and that Paul never once intervened. “I was pretty careless about what was going in my own newsletter — that was my biggest fault,” Paul told the Times.

Careless, indeed. These lame excuses might pass for some, but Paul is running for his party’s nomination to be president of the United States. He may see the latest resurrection of the newsletter controversy as old news that he has already explained. The problem is that he has not, but now he must.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/art...s-need-answers

Not exactly the type of article Paul or his supporters want to see on the eve of the caucuses in Iowa. Muhammad Ali won a world title employing a rope-a-dope strategy but will it work for Paul in a different arena?


Todays Boston Globe (12/29/11) has an article about the subject

http://bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2...8BJ/story.html

In it, a Paul supporter asks his candidate Ron Paul to come forward and offer more than he has so far

Trettin’s brother, William, a 19-year-old student at the Naval Academy, said Paul has done a poor job of refuting the allegations against him, but his failure to adequately explain himself will not affect the brothers’ votes.

“He needs to make it really easy for people to understand what the mix-up is,’’ said William Trettin. “He seems more like the smart grandpa they made run an election rather than a politician.’’

Will Paul come forward as some of his own supporters feel he should? Will we get a name and a face of a person who was truly responsible for the content of those newsletters if Paul has washed his hands of that responsibility?

If one remembers back to the bad old days of the Watergate scandal which paralyzed this nation politically for the better part of two years in the mid 70's, President Richard Nixon tried to protect those who had been loyal to him but, in the end, Haldeman, Erlichman and the others were all fired as Nixon attempted to save himself and hope the corpses of the others would be enough to satisfy both the public and the investigative journalists who were pursuing the truth.

The lame excuse of "we really do not know who wrote this racist stuff" is not being accepted. This is not going to be something that can be pinned on the nameless intern in cubicle three that nobody seems to remember other than he liked take out from the local burger joint and left early on some days.

The other day I was watching the excellent Stanley Kubrick film PATHS OF GLORY made in 1957. In it, a small group of French soldiers are executed as scapegoats for the gross incompetence of the French generals who ordered waves of suicide attacks against a strongly fortified German position in no mans land. It seems the people who were truly responsible did not want to pay the price for their actions and decided the public would accept lowly fall guys to hang the crime upon.

The presidential career of Ron Paul hangs in the balance. Let us see how he handles this. Lets see if he can track down that intern from cubicle #3.
 
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GOP Presidential candidate Ron Paul has attempted to walk a very fine line with a high risk strategy on the newsletters that is baffling to anybody outside of the normal libertarian circles. Even though they were published under the name RON PAUL he claims he was not responsible for them and in fact did not even read them or know what was in them until years later.

I wonder when people are going to figure out there's a connection between our straw hat wearing yahoo southern boys and the Libertarian Party; a streak of racism, secessionism, love for the Confederate Constitution, Confederation not Federation, hatred of Federal Yankee Centralization, Free Trade, exploitation of cheap foreign labor through open borders or guest workers...

Nah.
 
Obama has had to endure over 3 years of unsubstantiated "birther" attacks, BUT Ron Paul now wants Americans to believe that he had no knowledge as to what was appearing in his own newsletters and on his own website.

If the situation was reversed, are we left with any reason to believe that our conservative "friends" would be quite so understanding?
 
Obama has had to endure over 3 years of unsubstantiated "birther" attacks, BUT Ron Paul now wants Americans to believe that he had no knowledge as to what was appearing in his own newsletters and on his own website.

If the situation was reversed, are we left with any reason to believe that our conservative "friends" would be quite so understanding?


I use to be a Libertarian and I am telling you libertarians like Ron Paul are totally colorblind; moreso than liberals in fact.

Libertarians are ignorant of the fact that their beliefs lead to slavery. All slavery is is the exploitation of cheap foreign labor for profit, that's all it is; nothing more and nothing less. All other arguments and media propaganda are extraneous.
 
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Years of crap and he claims he doesn't know how it happened. Great idea to have a president who has no clue! Not!
 
I wonder when people are going to figure out there's a connection between our straw hat wearing yahoo southern boys and the Libertarian Party; a streak of racism, secessionism, love for the Confederate Constitution, Confederation not Federation, hatred of Federal Yankee Centralization, Free Trade, exploitation of cheap foreign labor through open borders or guest workers...

Nah.

^ Hitting the nail on the head!
 


Reality Check: The story behind the Ron Paul newsletters - FOX19 News and Weather - Greater Cincinnati Area

"..Kirchick fails to disclose two very important things: who's name was in that byline, and which article they wrote. He only states that the mystery writer wrote "One special edition" of the Ron Paul Report. The only special edition I can find is the 1992 article, "A Special Report on Racial Terrorism." Why is that important? Because this edition of the newsletter that is most often quoted to prove racism. So does that mean the most racist evidence in these newsletters actually has someone else's name on it?
I don't know, but I'd like to find out." -- Ben Swann

To cover the rest of the video, the bottom of page 8 has the real author's byline that I believe Kurchick cut off in not showing.

*The link of TNR doesn't have page 8.* The only copy I found of page 8 is cut off at the end oddly. Compared to the others...

hi9v.jpg
 
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Reality Check: The story behind the Ron Paul newsletters - FOX19 News and Weather - Greater Cincinnati Area

"..Kirchick fails to disclose two very important things: who's name was in that byline, and which article they wrote. He only states that the mystery writer wrote "One special edition" of the Ron Paul Report. The only special edition I can find is the 1992 article, "A Special Report on Racial Terrorism." Why is that important? Because this edition of the newsletter that is most often quoted to prove racism. So does that mean the most racist evidence in these newsletters actually has someone else's name on it?
I don't know, but I'd like to find out." -- Ben Swann

To cover the rest of the video, the bottom of page 8 has the real author's byline that I believe Kurchick cut off in not showing.

*The link of TNR doesn't have page 8.* The only copy I found of page 8 is cut off at the end oddly. Compared to the others...

hi9v.jpg


Damn, this guy needs a Regional Emmy and a national program. He just single-handedly laid the smackdown on all the establishment journalists, LIKE A BOSS. This is investigative journalism at its finest.
 
Ron Paul not having a clue what his news letters for over 20 years say is about as believable as Obama not having the smallest inkling that Jeremiah Wright had some radical views on race. I mean sure, there is a possibility, hell, you may have even known and simply forgotten about it because you agreed with a lot of unrelated stuff, however the chances of simply not knowing? I doubt it.
 
Ron Paul not having a clue what his news letters for over 20 years say is about as believable as Obama not having the smallest inkling that Jeremiah Wright had some radical views on race. I mean sure, there is a possibility, hell, you may have even known and simply forgotten about it because you agreed with a lot of unrelated stuff, however the chances of simply not knowing? I doubt it.

See video above please. It was not over 20 years, not a substantial amount of the newsletter content, and at the exact time when he would be less involved with the newsletter.
 
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