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Voters Like Romney Best, But GOP Voters Give Edge to Gingrich

As usual you don't understand the numbers you're looking at. In this case you're looking at quarterly growth when you should be looking at annualized real growth. :roll: :roll: :roll:

I have yet to see a number that conservative didn't get wrong
 
Yep, gaining jobs instead of losing them by the truck load. Growing economy instead of a shriveling economy. Shrinking deficit instead of a growing deficit. Increasing consumer confidence. Nice improvement.
wathever u smoking must be killer herb.
 
You mean other than signing an $800 billion stimulus package and saving 2/3ds of the U.S. auto industry?


the stimulous didnt save the auto industry....it saved the unions so the workers could continue to pay their dues to feed the democratic machine......and obama didnt INHERT anything, he VOLUNTEERED for it and with complete control of house and senate didnt make things better as promised but actually made them worse
 
I'm not sure Romney has a much better chance than the others, he is just less objectionable to many. He won't likely inspire the base, and he has not been stellar in the debates.

However, he has less bagage than Newt and not as nutter as some of the others. Paul would still be more interesting, but really hasn't been able to garner enough support to be the nominee.
He from Massachusetts, that's like have 20 divorces and 50 murder convictions. :mrgreen:
 
the stimulous didnt save the auto industry....it saved the unions so the workers could continue to pay their dues to feed the democratic machine......and obama didnt INHERT anything, he VOLUNTEERED for it and with complete control of house and senate didnt make things better as promised but actually made them worse

No, the bailout actually did save GM and Chrysler from liquidation. In the process it saved hundreds of thousands of decent paying American jobs. But I know we're supposed to hate those middle class, hard working Americans because they belong to a union, right?

Of course Obama ran for POTUS voluntarily, and of course he inherited a massive recession. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
 
Actually, the one most likely to deal with substance will be Gingrich, who doesn't have to run on a failed record of either Massachusetts or the entire U.S. Gingrich can run on substance when he was Speaker because at the time the country was doing very well. He also by far has the greatest understanding of the substantive matters. My bet is that Gingrich is going to run hard on substance to reduce his negatives of the past personal and ethics indiscretions. Besides, those things are now proving to be an obstacle which can be hurdled. Whether it should be or not is another conversation, but democrats especially are not able to run attacks adds against Gingrich based on personal or ethical issues since their party has run boatloads of candidates with personal and ethical misconduct. It will be a serious mistake to run attacks adds against Gingrich because the counter attack will be devastating when the GOP parades all of the high profile ethically and morally challenged candidates and elected officials the democrats have put forth.


Both parties have a boat load of personal ethic problems. I wouldn't be too confident as to which is which. If many actually listen to Newt's substance, he really wouldn't stand a chance. His poor kids comment is a prime example. Sure,he'll apeal to the worse of his base, but not the middle anywhere with that type of thing. Newt had more problems than hsi ethics problems in the past. Many just didn't like him because of the positions he held and how he presented them.

He's not a nutter, true. He's not incompetent, also true. But he is an idealogue that would be rather close to electing Cheney for president. Darth Vader stuff ;) .
 
Of course Obama ran for POTUS voluntarily, and of course he inherited a massive recession. The two aren't mutually exclusive.


and when he was sworn in he said that he was taking all the responsiblilty and it was his problem now.......then he just went on playing the blame game and continues to do so
 
and when he was sworn in he said that he was taking all the responsiblilty and it was his problem now.......then he just went on playing the blame game and continues to do so

I don't think so.
 
No, the bailout actually did save GM and Chrysler from liquidation. In the process it saved hundreds of thousands of decent paying American jobs. But I know we're supposed to hate those middle class, hard working Americans because they belong to a union, right?

Of course Obama ran for POTUS voluntarily, and of course he inherited a massive recession. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Pure speculation. They could have filed Chapter 11 and reorganized, but that would have cost the unions money and jobs.

United Airlines, Continental, and many other corporations like the one I worked for many years ago filed Chapter 11 and are now stronger than ever.
 
Pure speculation. They could have filed Chapter 11 and reorganized, but that would have cost the unions money and jobs.

They DID file Chapter 11, with the government's assistance. They could not have done it on their own.
 
They DID file Chapter 11, with the government's assistance. They could not have done it on their own.

They couldn't do it on their own ????

How do the thousands of companies that file Chapter 11 every year manage to do it "on their own" ???
 
They couldn't do it on their own ????

How do the thousands of companies that file Chapter 11 every year manage to do it "on their own" ???

Ay yay yay. It's not something one is automatically entitled to. You have to be able to put together a credible reorganization plan demonstrating that you have a good chance of succeeding if reorganization is approved. GM was about $100 billion away from being able to put together a saleable plan on its own.
 
the stimulous didnt save the auto industry....it saved the unions so the workers could continue to pay their dues to feed the democratic machine......and obama didnt INHERT anything, he VOLUNTEERED for it and with complete control of house and senate didnt make things better as promised but actually made them worse

He said "signing an $800 billion stimulus package and saving 2/3ds of the U.S. auto industry" not "signing an $800 billion stimulus package THAT SAVED 2/3ds of the U.S. auto industry"



And the last time I looked, there's nothing involuntary about an inheritance
 
Pure speculation. They could have filed Chapter 11 and reorganized, but that would have cost the unions money and jobs.

Yeah, right! The "union" would lose money and jobs, but not the actual employees!! :roll:
 
They couldn't do it on their own ????

How do the thousands of companies that file Chapter 11 every year manage to do it "on their own" ???

They don't. By filing Chapter 11, they are asking the govt to intervene

In what world is "petitioning the courts to intervene" considered "doing it on your own"?
 
Well, here's some fun for Newt supporters:

Jon Stewart did his best on Thursday to convince Republican voters to avoid Gingrich at all costs. “Don’t do this,” he said. “Seriously. I know you’re mad-der than usual. Country’s being run by a foreign-born Hawaiian … radical Christian Muslim socialist who’s in the pocket of Wall Street…”

And sometimes Gingrich can sound like the answer, Stewart added, with Newt’s jabs at the media and mentions of Ronald Reagan every several sentences. But here’s the thing:

“He’s not Reagan,” Stewart said. “He’s more like a Normal Rockwell painting of Ayn Rand kicking Jimmy Carter in the balls. … Reagan had a certain charm and gentility. Gingrich is like what would happen if Reagan had been abandoned as a child and raised by a family of cactuses.”

Jon Stewart To Gingrich Supporters: ‘Don’t Do This’ | TPM2012
 
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