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Does Obama really want to win?

j-mac

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There are only two ways to look at the Obama re-election campaign right now: Either the upstart candidate who stunned the world when he defeated the Clinton machine to capture the Democratic nomination three years ago has lost every bit of that massive mojo, or the bruised and battered president, after three years in office, just doesn’t want another spin in the Oval Office.
How else to explain the nonstop missteps, the stammering and stuttering campaign, not to mention the brazen attacks on American voters, who, he has said, have “fallen behind,” lost their “ambition and imagination,” gotten “lazy” and “a bit soft” - this is a guy seeking the support of America?!
For the past 36 months, Americans have hoped for the best. But it hasn’t turned out that way. In fact, some argue that Mr. Obama actually made the economy worse - the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said last week that his 2009 stimulus package may have sustained as few as 700,000 jobs at its peak and that over the long run it will be a net drag on the economy.
But then, this. The president, traveling the country purportedly to look for votes in 2012, decided to lecture the American people on their shortcomings: fat, lazy, stupid. And now, he’s channeling - of all people - Jimmy Carter.

CURL: Does Obama really want to win? - Washington Times


Now, this makes sense, he knows that he is going to lose. And to think there are some in here that pretend to criticize the republican field of candidates, when their own is feckless.

j-mac
 
I think he's looking at the GOP candidates right now and figures why waste the effort going after most of them. Most of them could defeat themselves.

Once there is a set GOP nominee, then he can campaign.

Personally, I would much rather the President be concerned with running our country than being reelected, especially almost a year before the election.
 
First of all the following words appear at the beggining of the article.

ANALYSIS/OPINION

So this isn't breaking news.

And given your usual rhetoric it's no surprise you take this editorial piece as the ****ing gospel.

Was the picture of Obama eating a hot dog supposed to add integrity to the article? Or just expose it for the useless piece of opinion it truly is?
 
I think he's looking at the GOP candidates right now and figures why waste the effort going after most of them. Most of them could defeat themselves.

Once there is a set GOP nominee, then he can campaign.

Personally, I would much rather the President be concerned with running our country than being reelected, especially almost a year before the election.


Except that the only skill this guy shows is in campaigning. And because of that it pretty much has been all he has really done.

j-mac
 
Its possible he has his own agenda when elected President and did not care about re-election but doing what he thought was right even if it cost him HoR in 2010 and his own Presidency in 2012. imo
 
A political opinion is considered breaking news?
 
First of all the following words appear at the beggining of the article.

ANALYSIS/OPINION

So this isn't breaking news.

And given your usual rhetoric it's no surprise you take this editorial piece as the ****ing gospel.

Was the picture of Obama eating a hot dog supposed to add integrity to the article? Or just expose it for the useless piece of opinion it truly is?

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Raising money doesn't tell the heart of the man...I think he is phoning it in.

j-mac
There's no reason for him to start visibly campaigning this early. The campaign for him doesn't start until the GOP picks a candidate. He's the president. He should be focused on policy, not on actively campaigning.
 
I don't understand the way people talk about Obama losing or being a bad president as if it's a foregone conclusion.

Of course he wants to win. And he will try quite hard to do so. And he probably will. Incumbents usually are.
 
First of all the following words appear at the beggining of the article.

ANALYSIS/OPINION

So this isn't breaking news.

And given your usual rhetoric it's no surprise you take this editorial piece as the ****ing gospel.

Was the picture of Obama eating a hot dog supposed to add integrity to the article? Or just expose it for the useless piece of opinion it truly is?

Wingnut (Washington Times) wishful thinking. :lol:
 
I don't get it. Obama's approval rating is approximately 45%...which isn't great, but hardly spells doom. He polls even with, or slightly ahead of, Mitt Romney. Although opinion polls at this early stage don't really mean much and anything could change over the course of the next year, I'm not seeing where this certitude among many conservatives (and some liberals) that Obama is doomed comes from. It certainly isn't reflected in any of the numbers.

I don't think we'll have a very good indication of which way the election is heading until next summer at the earliest, unless the Republicans make a major blunder like nominating an unelectable candidate.
 
I think it's too early to tell anything yet, and Obama knows it. If he did much campaigning now, people would just complain. What little he has done, I've already heard complaints about wasted $. He's just running the country for now. Particularly, since the GOP candidates seem to be in a free-for-all, for the time being.
 
I think he's looking at the GOP candidates right now and figures why waste the effort going after most of them. Most of them could defeat themselves.

Once there is a set GOP nominee, then he can campaign.

Personally, I would much rather the President be concerned with running our country than being reelected, especially almost a year before the election.

wow, didnt expect that one from you lol

i think the president has been doing to much campaigning and not enough running the country. he spent more time on the road lately pushing his jobs bill, which we all know is just campaigning, then being at the white house.

i had high hopes for this president and he let me down hard!
 
Raising money doesn't tell the heart of the man...I think he is phoning it in.


j-mac

Then his campaign will mirror his Presidency. What really bugs me about Obama is that he will always be remembered NOT for his leadership, courage, vision, but because he was the first black president!


Tim-
 
wow, didnt expect that one from you lol

i think the president has been doing to much campaigning and not enough running the country. he spent more time on the road lately pushing his jobs bill, which we all know is just campaigning, then being at the white house.

i had high hopes for this president and he let me down hard!

So far, the GOP is not giving me hope that they are going to nominate a candidate that makes me either want to vote for Obama just to keep them out of office or who just makes me not care whether it is them or Obama that is President come 2013. The only current GOP candidate that I would consider voting for is Huntsman, but he is too moderate and willing to compromise for most Republicans.

I don't like Obama, as a whole, but I am not going to put him down nor act like he isn't doing or hasn't done anything that I like. I love the fact that he pushed to repeal DADT and actually helped in getting it done. I also like the fact that he is willing to stand up against DOMA. As far as the economy goes, I don't completely like either sides' plans, but I lean more toward Dems, since I don't think that we are going to effectively reduce debt and still maintain a place as a first world nation through spending cuts alone. And people below a certain income are just simply not going to be able to pay more taxes since they can barely afford food, shelter, and other essentials.

Honestly, I hate Obama's health insurance law, but I also don't think Republicans would have opposed it if it didn't include more opportunity for people to get Medicaid/Medicare or the mandate that insurance companies had to accept people with known conditions. I want something way more liberal, a UHC system put into place. I hate Obama's ideas about immigration, but during his time in office, we have seen an increase in the government going after illegal immigrants and/or their employers. It isn't enough, in my opinion, but it is better than before.

Overall though, I don't trust people who want to make drastic changes to our government, especially when those changes are likely to cause huge problems. I also do not trust people who want us to be a "Christian nation" or any other religious type nation by law.
 
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