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Who do you wish would just go away?

Which one should go away?

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Since I can only pick one... Rick Santorum. I've been to 2-3 dozen countries. Have lived in Germany. Been in the Army for over a decade...
Santorum's world view is so screwed up and out of touch it's not even funny.

Yet again, I can say the same about all Republicans except Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, and Jon Huntsman.
 
USAMP1970 said:
Since I can only pick one... Rick Santorum. I've been to 2-3 dozen countries. Have lived in Germany. Been in the Army for over a decade...
Santorum's world view is so screwed up and out of touch it's not even funny.

Yet again, I can say the same about all Republicans except Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, and Jon Huntsman.
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Welcome to the forum, by the way, and thank you for your service.
 
StillBallin75 said:
@WSS: I said the two were different, I didn't say the two were mutually exclusive :D
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It was a lazy post, I admit it. But that was actually my point.

StillBallin75 said:
That being said, I don't think Bush was as stupid as some liberals made him out to be. He wasn't the brightest light in the tanning bed, but he wasn't a Bachmann either.
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I don't think he's stupid either. There are many different kinds of intelligence. I for one, am pretty intelligent in the field I work in, but put me in any serious administrative position and I'd do no better than Bush.

Well, maybe a little better.

Edit: it's worth remembering Bush's behavior during his last year of office, especially the last few months. It's like he turned to all the people pulling his strings and said, "Screw this noise, and screw you too."
 
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USAMP1970 said:
Since I can only pick one... Rick Santorum. I've been to 2-3 dozen countries. Have lived in Germany. Been in the Army for over a decade...
Santorum's world view is so screwed up and out of touch it's not even funny.

Yet again, I can say the same about all Republicans except Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, and Jon Huntsman.
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Thats funny because I have also been to many countries and lived in Nurnberg Germany for 4 years when I was in the service and the socialist European world view is screwed up. In fact I can say the same about all Democrats without exception.

Welcome to DP:mrgreen:
 
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SgtRock said:
Thats funny because I have also been to many countries and lived in Nurnberg Germany for 4 years when I was in the service and the socialist European world view is screwed up. In fact I can say the same about all Democrats without exception.
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And the beauty of democracy is that people with different opinions can coexist, so let's chill out a bit.
 
Josie said:
If you had to choose one of the GOP candidates to just stop and go away, which would it be?
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Ron paul. And I wish he was on a cruise liner. And the other 15 or so candidates were towel boys. And the House would be the serving crew. And Obama and Biden and the senate would, in the name of green energy volunteer to row the boat. And the cruise would be a one way trip to Australia. Donald Trump could be the event coordinator on the Lido deck.
 
StillBallin75 said:
And the beauty of democracy is that people with different opinions can coexist, so let's chill out a bit.
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Hell no I ain't chillin. Im drinkin tonight and getting worked up into a political frenzy.:shock:
 
SgtRock said:
Hell no I ain't chillin. Im drinkin tonight and getting worked up into a political frenzy.:shock:
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It's Obama's fault. You KNOW it is!
 
SgtRock said:
Thats funny because I have also been to many countries and lived in Nurnberg Germany for 4 years when I was in the service and the socialist European world view is screwed up. In fact I can say the same about all Democrats without exception.

Welcome to DP:mrgreen:
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Don't get me wrong.. the Democrates are pretty screwed up too. Since you brought it up.. One of my pet peeves is that the Republicans do not seem to understand socialism. They seem to equate it with fascism. Fascism and totalitarianism are systems of government. Socialism is an economic system.
If Germany wants to pay 16% sales tax in exchange for nice roads, retirement, and education... I say that's their business, not ours. I do not find it evil. There are pros and cons of each economic system.
Thank you for your service.
 
USAMP1970 said:
Don't get me wrong.. the Democrates are pretty screwed up too. Since you brought it up.. One of my pet peeves is that the Republicans do not seem to understand socialism. They seem to equate it with fascism. Fascism and totalitarianism are systems of government. Socialism is an economic system.
If Germany wants to pay 16% sales tax in exchange for nice roads, retirement, and education... I say that's their business, not ours. I do not find it evil. There are pros and cons of each economic system.
Thank you for your service.
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No biggie, I understand what socialism is. And Germany is the exception. Thankyou for your service. I think you'll like it here. Once again welcome.
 
Definitely Santorum. I'm not sure what he's hanging around for except that he's waiting for his turn to be flavor of the month.
 
Zyphlin said:
Santorum. The man drives me crazy and his dismissal of the constitution in the first debate made him fly out in front of even Bachmann. Bachmann's at least said some things during these debates I've actually agreed with a bit and one thing I disagreed with in a specific sense but the general notion got a ton of respect from me, more than I can say for anything Santorum said.
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(Butthead voice)You agreed with Bachmann...
 
I find it rather amusing that the 4 that voted for Paul would never vote in a republican primary anyway.
 
ARealConservative said:
I find it rather amusing that the 4 that voted for Paul would never vote in a republican primary anyway.
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Or maybe it's because we think Paul is the biggest idiot among the GOP contenders :mrgreen:

Currently I support Gingrich for president, so I have no hatred for the GOP (well, as a party. I do strongly dislike some of their platforms).
 
They're all doing so much insure Obama's second term, so just sit back and have a laugh...
 
Gingrich. It has been a long time since a candidate literal made me nauseous. I don't want to have to put up with Gingrich for most of 2012.
 
Well if I'm thinking in terms of cynically engineering an Obama victory, the obvious answer would be Mitt Romney. I don't think any of the other contenders would be strong candidates against Obama (except maybe Jon Huntsman, whose campaign doesn't appear to be going anywhere.) But on a more gut level of who irritates me the most, it's Ron Paul. He is a frightening extremist, and unlike someone like Rick Santorum who is extreme in a goofy way, Ron Paul is extreme in a way that actually makes for good soundbites and sounds reasonable to people who don't pay that close attention to what he is actually proposing.
 
Kandahar said:
Well if I'm thinking in terms of cynically engineering an Obama victory, the obvious answer would be Mitt Romney. I don't think any of the other contenders would be strong candidates against Obama (except maybe Jon Huntsman, whose campaign doesn't appear to be going anywhere.) But on a more gut level of who irritates me the most, it's Ron Paul. He is a frightening extremist, and unlike someone like Rick Santorum who is extreme in a goofy way, Ron Paul is extreme in a way that actually makes for good soundbites and sounds reasonable to people who don't pay that close attention to what he is actually proposing.
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one problem, I pay as much or more attention to the political landscape as you do, Am easily as educated on philosophical ideas, and yet find what you to be saying to be incorrect.
 
ARealConservative said:
one problem, I pay as much or more attention to the political landscape as you do, Am easily as educated on philosophical ideas, and yet find what you to be saying to be incorrect.
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Go on... you find him to be incorrect because...?
 
To be honest, I wish Cain would go away. He has proven how much of an idiot he is over and over again. One slip up I can understand but really:

The electric fence "joke".

The smoking commercial.

The multiple sexual harassment cases which he talks in circles about.

Admitting he has no idea how to handle foreign policy. Then proves it with comments about China attempting to acquire nuclear weapons. Then expects us to believe that he will simply surround himself with the best advisers in foreign policy - doesn't explain how he is going to know who is the best at foreign policy if he has no idea how to handle foreign policy in the first place.

The 9-9-9/9-0-9/whatever it was this week.

I wish he'd go away because despite the above list, the guy still has a following of people willing to vote for this guy. He knows pizza, I'll give him that - but somehow people think that a pizza franchise CEO is qualified for the position that leads a country dealing with the lives of people within your country and outside of your country.

I think votes on Bachmann and Santorum are wasted. I don't care if they stick around, they are non-factors. They are not going to win a general election, lets be serious here.
 
ARealConservative said:
one problem, I pay as much or more attention to the political landscape as you do, Am easily as educated on philosophical ideas, and yet find what you to be saying to be incorrect.
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Then you are the exception. I'm not saying Ron Paul doesn't have any supporters who share his extremist views, there just aren't that many of them. Ron Paul's views on eliminating the social safety net, practicing total isolationism, dramatically contracting the money supply to return to the gold standard, returning to an 18th century view of the Constitution, and cutting federal spending by 40% in one year are FAR outside the mainstream of American politics. For that matter, my hunch is that they are far outside the mainstream of Ron Paul's own political supporters. Ron Paul is simply better at the art of espousing dangerously radical ideas without sounding like a goofball than, say, Rick Santorum is.
 
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Kandahar said:
Then you are the exception. Ron Paul's views on eliminating the social safety net, practicing total isolationism, dramatically contracting the money supply to return to the gold standard, returning to an 18th century view of the Constitution, and cutting federal spending by 40% in one year are FAR outside the mainstream of American politics. For that matter, my hunch is that they are far outside the mainstream of Ron Paul's own political supporters. Ron Paul is simply better at the art of espousing dangerously radical ideas without sounding like a goofball than, say, Rick Santorum is.
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Well to answer your concerns.

Social safety net. I'm guessing that is Food Stamps, Medicaid, Family Support Programs, etc... he doesn't touch those in his budget plan.
Total Isolationism: Read Non-interventionism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Gold Standard: Kinda a misconception but he wants to just legalize gold and silver as legal tender and transition to a free market currency i believe.
Returning to an 18th century view of the Constitution: Mmmm...well to get washington to follow the Constitution will be a revolution in itself XD.
Cutting fed spending: Please do! But majority of the cuts are done from oversea expenditures/militarism spending attrition, privatization certain functions and attrition of 5 depts.
 
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