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"The survey of 347 Republicans and Republican-leaning independents was conducted Tuesday-Thursday and had a margin of error of plus or minus 5.5 percentage points."

That's a mighty small sample group. I wonder if subsequent, broader surveys would show a continued uptrend for Gingrich.

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Eh. All the other polls still have Cain ahead of Newt. Makes me question this poll and its results.

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Huntsman went up by 1% :3

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ChuckBerry said:

"The survey of 347 Republicans and Republican-leaning independents was conducted Tuesday-Thursday and had a margin of error of plus or minus 5.5 percentage points."

That's a mighty small sample group. I wonder if subsequent, broader surveys would show a continued uptrend for Gingrich.

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5.5 percentage points? Good lord. Why even bother posting that?

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Cain is losing support and those leaving seem to be going mostly toward Gingrich. This makes sense as Gingrich is much more palatable to Tea-Party types than Romney. Unfortunately, Gingrich is far less palatable to independents and unhappy Democrats than Romney. If Gingrich wins the nomination he would have to move a long way toward the middle to win and I just don't see the TP letting him do that.

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Its just one poll...but newt is making an upswing

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Gingrich has been rising at about the same percentage that Cain has been falling over the past few weeks. Perry is dropping like a rock and most of those he lost were heading for Cain. Now they seem to be going to Gingrich. He just might manage to get the nomination from flip-flop Romney, but I seriously doubt he can win in the general election.

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Newt Beating out Cain is not odd, since he is the most enmeshed in the establishment of the Tea Party candidates. He has that McCain-like appeal intellectually and practically, without as much political baggage for conservatives. It is not unexpected that the establishment would be propping him up.

Also, this is the second poll in a week to show Ron Paul with 10% and in fourth place.

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Gingrich may be rising in the polls but I doubt he will ever be POTUS!

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I'm not putting any stock in polls until votes are cast, that's the only poll that matters. The polls at this time are so unpredictable they can best be described as schizophrenic.

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True, and this most recent one had a very small sample and thus a very high margin of error (over 5%, I believe).

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Ahh, yes, the hot presidential candidate of the moment who isn't Romney. No one wants Romney and I must applaud GOP partisans for at least recognizing that Romney would be, as we used to say down home, "buying a pig in a poke." Translated it means buying something for which the quality is a total unknown. That's Romney, the everything to everybody candidate. Gingrich is simply another desperate grab by the GOP to find any damn body who isn't Romney.

It started with Palin, everyone got all gooey over Palin. That is until they discovered that she really is lacking of substance. Then there was Bachmann, who everyone adored...for about 10 minutes, but at least she wasn't Romney. Bachmann is an idiot and kudos to the GOP partisans for acknowledging that. Following the realization that Bachman was either completely stupid or insane everyone ran to Rick Perry. Perry was the man of the moment. Everyone was fawning over Rick saying, coincidently, the same things they said about Palin and Bachmann, "he's not afraid to tell it like it is" which in real terms means nothing. In reality is seems that's pretty much what Perry had to offer the nation, nothing. Perry may actually be dumber than W. See the trend here? Palin, Bachmann and Perry, a confederacy of dunces (apologies to John Kennedy Toole).

All the while Romney stands in the corner going "Ooo, over here. Pick me. Pick me. Yo', I'll do it. Over here pick me." Think about it for a second, looking at Palin, Bachmann and Perry, the bar had been set so incredibly low Romney had no choice but to stoop down and make wild assed statements to a variety of people just to get attention. It didn't, it hasn't helped Romney. No one wants him in Washington. "Flip Flop", Romney is thy name. So the search continued.

Next comes a conservative black guy who talked like a white guy. Cain was lauded for "telling it like it is." Cain isn't stupid. And he isn't Romney. Everyone ran to Cain. He's the man! Problem was the skeletons in Cain's closet were white women. It appears that there is enough smoke to indicate a fire. Cain's goose is cooked.

As time is closing in GOP partisans scramble to find someone who isn't Romney. In slimes Gingrich. Suddenly the GOP partisans are all giddy with excitement over the man named after a lizard, Newt. Fitting, no? "We love Newt, we love Newt" is now the desperate cry from deeply loyally GOP partisans who slapping their foreheads are saying, "We wanted Newt all along. Oh, he's great. We can overlook the ethics violation and the fact that he has the morals of Penn State defensive coordinator."

In the end it will be Romney. I had hoped the the GOP would have, could have, offered America real leadership and real hope with a measure of honesty and integrity. God knows, if ever they could have won against the incumbent opposition it would have been 2012. They won't and it will be the GOP's fault. They couldn't field anyone worth considering, other than Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, who they wouldn't consider.

Romney will be the GOP candidate and people will stay away from him in droves.

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It's like reading a short story.

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Risky Thicket said:

Ahh, yes, the hot presidential candidate of the moment who isn't Romney. No one wants Romney and I must applaud GOP partisans for at least recognizing that Romney would be, as we used to say down home, "buying a pig in a poke." Translated it means buying something for which the quality is a total unknown. That's Romney, the everything to everybody candidate. Gingrich is simply another desperate grab by the GOP to find any damn body who isn't Romney.

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True, what's wrong with trying to find a candidate who is not Romney. Why do GOP have to elect Romney, the inspiration for obamacare, the guy who has flip flopped on every single issue, the man who is in bed with Wall Street and has no credibility what so ever. At least gingrich has proven himself to fight for conservative causes. Romney was a door mat.

It started with Palin, everyone got all gooey over Palin. That is until they discovered that she really is lacking of substance.

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Not true, she never got any high poll numbers during the election campaign. She also had a lot of haters. Everyone knew she lacked substance. The ones who thought she was smart, still think she is smart.

Then there was Bachmann, who everyone adored...for about 10 minutes, but at least she wasn't Romney. Bachmann is an idiot and kudos to the GOP partisans for acknowledging that.

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This lady never got anything more than 13%, and she was polling equally with Perry who hadn't even joined yet. She was not someone everyone adored. She was only loved by the far right.

Following the realization that Bachman was either completely stupid or insane everyone ran to Rick Perry.

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Another incorrect statement. You really need to understand politics better. The Bachmann voters didn't realize Bachmann was an idiot and turn to Perry. Actually a lot of her voters stayed put. Rick Perry was a popular guy and it had nothing to do with Bachmann. He rose up, because he entered the race. He was seen as the Republican who can connect the establishment and the Tea Party together. Problem is, he wasn't very bright and completly destroyed himself in the debates.

Next comes a conservative black guy who talked like a white guy. Cain was lauded for "telling it like it is." Cain isn't stupid. And he isn't Romney. Everyone ran to Cain. He's the man! Problem was the skeletons in Cain's closet were white women. It appears that there is enough smoke to indicate a fire. Cain's goose is cooked.

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Wrong, Cain is stupid. Especially about foreign policy, and about hiring good people. He wasn't prepared for anything, he had not set up any staff, he kept using the same talking points, he made dumb statemens making the establishment hate him, and he kept on changed stories so he lost all credibility in the harrasment case.

If Cain had campaigned smart. He would be polling in the 30s right now, but he messed up. It had nothing to do with those stories. If he came out and talked about how lawers force companies to pay money for silly cases, gave correct information. It would not be an issue at all.

In the end it will be Romney. I had hoped the the GOP would have, could have, offered America real leadership and real hope with a measure of honesty and integrity. God knows, if ever they could have won against the incumbent opposition it would have been 2012. They won't and it will be the GOP's fault. They couldn't field anyone worth considering, other than Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, who they wouldn't consider.

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After all your previous gaffles, you have no credibility making such a prediction. I dare you to put your money where your mouth is.

Gingrich is stronger than the previous two candidates, because he is no idiot, and he got corporate backing. I would not count him out, he may win the nomination, because there are too many notRomneys, who will vote for him. Remember, that McCain was not close to winning 3 months before the nomination either. Romney is only popular among one group, and that is moderate establishment republicans.

I think Republicans are going to lose in 2012, but parts of the problem is that no good candidate has joined. No wonder, since Romney was smearing all candidates last election. We should listen more to Gingrich who wants to unite Republicans instead of dividing them like Romney, Bachmann and Perry does.

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So Newt's the flavor of the week now, huh?

(Note to self: it's now OK to attack Cain, but not Newt)

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Newt Beating out Cain is not odd, since he is the most enmeshed in the establishment of the Tea Party candidates. He has that McCain-like appeal intellectually and practically, without as much political baggage for conservatives. It is not unexpected that the establishment would be propping him up.

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Gingrich probably has the best shot in a general election, next to Romney. I'm not a fan of the former speaker, but I'll take him over Romney. He seems like a smarter version of Perry, someone who can connect the establishment Republicans with the Tea Party. I still think that he's full of it, just like a lot of other politicians, but he's one of the few people who can appeal to both major wings of the GOP. Being moderate does not guarantee success. McCain showed that the support of your party's base is often not a given. McCain eventually learned this, but his response to this fact was so poorly bungled, that it's painful to look back upon

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Also, this is the second poll in a week to show Ron Paul with 10% and in fourth place.

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As much as I like Ron Paul, he's almost nobody's second choice, Johnson supporters notwithstanding. He is more of a Barry Goldwater than a Ronald Reagan. His impact has far more to do with framing the national debate than electoral success. Paul has brought his views to the forefront of political debate after eight years of neoconservativism. The GOP's base is still no where near him on most issues, but his ideas are still breaking into and focusing the mainstream.

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This is just one poll and time will tell if it is a trend or if this is just an outlier.

Having said that however, it is obvious that Gingrich has had some rather good outings on the debate circuit and his profile is gaining stature. It is also obvious that there is a most certain Anybody But Mitt feeling out there among the tea party wing of the GOP and Gingrich is starting to get some support from it as the previous right wing darlings Perry & Cain suffer and fall downwards towards eventual destruction as viable candidates.

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rocket88 said:

So Newt's the flavor of the week now, huh?

(Note to self: it's now OK to attack Cain, but not Newt)

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A Centrist would be attacking the President equally, but I won't hold my breath.

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I called it months ago....the GOP is waaaaay too racist still to ever seriously consider electing an African-American as their candidate. They will also prefer a three-timing adulterer hypocrite over a black man any day of the week.

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disneydude said:

I called it months ago....the GOP is waaaaay too racist still to ever seriously consider electing an African-American as their candidate. They will also prefer a three-timing adulterer hypocrite over a black man any day of the week.

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I don't buy into the race reason, I just think Cain doesn't have good ideas.

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I don't buy into the race reason, I just think Cain doesn't have good ideas.

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I didn't say ALL of the GOP....but face it....there are simply too many racists in the GOP today for a person of color to ever have a serioius chance at the nomination. That doesn't mean that everyone that disagrees with Cain is a racist...it simply is pointing out that there are too many in the party for someone like Cain to ever get the nomination. The GOP is fine with sex scandals and adulterers (as long as they don't have a D behind their name)...but they still have a problem with skin color.

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disneydude said:

I didn't say ALL of the GOP....but face it....there are simply too many racists in the GOP today for a person of color to ever have a serioius chance at the nomination. That doesn't mean that everyone that disagrees with Cain is a racist...it simply is pointing out that there are too many in the party for someone like Cain to ever get the nomination. The GOP is fine with sex scandals and adulterers (as long as they don't have a D behind their name)...but they still have a problem with skin color.

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FYI, the race card was 'cashed in' the day OJ's jury said, "Not Guilty."

Balance is currently zero.

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The entire thing is moot. We are talking about a bunch of ants fighting to be the one who goes out to defeat the bear.

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American said:

A Centrist would be attacking the President equally, but I won't hold my breath.

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Why? What if the president more closely represents the centrists position on issues?