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Herman Cain, The Practical Joke No One Is Getting

haymarket said:
Two very very different groups of the electorate. To win the primary nomination, he needs to appeal to the right. To win the election, he needs to both hold his base and expand to the middle. And he would find that nearly impossible. Thus the reason why an extremist can win the GOP nomination but get creamed in the general election.
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The thing is, he hasn't described himself as an extremist. He believe government have a role, he hasn't been very clear what that role is. If you have followed, he has modified his 999 plan with justification so it is now progressive. He has been pretty harsh against Occupy Wall Street, but I don't think that is a dealbreaker among independent. Many independents think he is right. He hasn't said much about foreign policy and he keeps quiet about social issues.

He can expand to the middle like other candidates, if he is an good campaigner and he needs to be to win the nomination.
 
lpast said:
I will say again...if the republicans are dumb enough to let cain win the primary...Obama will have 4 more years.
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But couldnt you say that about every GOP nominee?

This is why he will win again. God bless america and God bless President Obama. Righty's, remember, there is always 2016?
 
so I watched this and wow it's so true he has no idea what's going on with the issues at all. It is embarrassing.
 
AudioGates said:
so I watched this and wow it's so true he has no idea what's going on with the issues at all. It is embarrassing.
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Here's a tip: You never see Sarah Palin and Herman Cain in the same room together at the same time. Just say'n.
 
I think Paul would do the least harm of any major candidate.
 
pbrauer said:
I have felt for some time that Herman Cain isn't really running for President. I realize many will scoff at Rachael Maddow’s take on his “candidacy” but it’s very interesting what she has put together. I find it difficult to dismiss her analysis.

Video: Rachel Maddow Show -Herman Cain, The Practical Joke No One Is Getting
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Holy ****!

So his 9-9-9 tax plan comes from SimCity and his campaign is based off of Pokeman??


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Like another poet once said ... "you can't make this **** up!"
 
Redress said:
We do not make fun of Pokemon around here, Dav has taught us better than to do that. The fact is was from Pokemon is entirely irrelevant to anything whatsoever.
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Would it have mattered had he quoted Sponge Bob?
 
The vid held my attention longer than I expected.
I think it was smarmy. But, I also found the idea plausible even though I suspect that the host did not. I can't make any judgment about probable.

Who knows? But if it's true that he hasn't set up staff in key states, I suspect he doesn't want to win. Perhaps like Palin he wasis just in it for the exposure.
It would be awesome if he were running a performance art campaign. I would idolize him for that.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Would it have mattered had he quoted Sponge Bob?
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No. A quote should stand on it's own merits, not on who said it. When you are forced to attack the source of the quote, you are admitting you cannot attack what was actually said. He outsmarted you.
 
pbrauer said:
I have felt for some time that Herman Cain isn't really running for President. I realize many will scoff at Rachael Maddow’s take on his “candidacy” but it’s very interesting what she has put together. I find it difficult to dismiss her analysis.

Video: Rachel Maddow Show -Herman Cain, The Practical Joke No One Is Getting
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i saw this, and i think she's right. he's such a joke, and has mishandled EVERYTHING, from his campaign manager to NEVER having his wife around to his ridiculous ads.
 
Redress said:
You know, I bitch when conservatives post stupid editorials to prove their point. This is just the same thing, but done by a liberal. I did not know that songwriters could not be considered poets. I did not know some one could focus on something so ****ing trivial. I am amazed that people actually then feel the need to report it. Namecalling is not some impressive thing. Thank you for lowering the level of discourse here.
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her bit was quite funny, redress. herman cain is trivial, so why NOT focus on the trivial?
 
Redress said:
No. A quote should stand on it's own merits, not on who said it. When you are forced to attack the source of the quote, you are admitting you cannot attack what was actually said. He outsmarted you.
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I disagree with you there. When you're running for an office as important a POTUS and you're quoting a silly cartoon during a national debate, the source is important. It presents the appearance that his guiding principles come from cartoons. Shirley there are greater thinkers from throughout time a serious presidential candidate can quote before even considering quoting cartoons?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
I disagree with you there. When you're running for an office as important a POTUS and you're quoting a silly cartoon during a national debate, the source is important. It presents the appearance that his guiding principles come from cartoons. Shirley there are greater thinkers from throughout time a serious presidential candidate can quote before even considering quoting cartoons?
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You are nitpicking stupid ****. 99 % of the people who heard the quote did not, do not and will not know who said it. They only heard the message.
 
Redress said:
You are nitpicking stupid ****. 99 % of the people who heard the quote did not, do not and will not know who said it. They only heard the message.
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It's not so much the quote itself...the Pokemon thing, by itself, would just be good for a chuckle and not really say anything about his campaign. But combined with some of Cain's other gaffes it DOES suggest that he's just trolling. But again, the biggest indication of the fact that he isn't serious is the fact that he's doing a book tour rather than a campaign. At the very least, it shows where his true priorities are.
 
haymarket said:
Oh, I agree 100%. But the momentary thought of it and the nationwide Democratic landslide from the top to the bottom of the ticket that it would deliver is a happy thought just the same.
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I wouldn't count on that. If the GOP somehow gets it's act together, and nominates even a marginal candidate, instead of the nut jobs and retreads that are competing for the nomination now, Obama is toast.
 
danarhea said:
I wouldn't count on that. If the GOP somehow gets it's act together, and nominates even a marginal candidate, instead of the nut jobs and retreads that are competing for the nomination now, Obama is toast.
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A marginal candidate would probably not fare very well. Most of the things that will determine whether or not Obama is reelected have yet to occur (i.e. the state of the economy next summer/fall), so it's difficult to predict either way. And keep in mind that Obama's approval ratings aren't THAT bad even now...he's at about 45-46% which is not impressive, but hardly a harbinger of doom. If he improves even just a couple percentage points in the next year he would be the clear favorite to win reelection; if he slips just a couple percentage points he'll probably lose. A marginal GOP candidate would unnecessarily handicap their chances by several percentage points. The GOP can ill-afford an unforced error when they're running against an incumbent president, especially one with as much raw political talent as Barack Obama.

I think Romney is the strongest GOP candidate, Huntsman would be fairly strong in the general election (although he can't win the primary), Perry is weaker than the other two but shouldn't be underestimated, Gingrich would be a disaster for the Republicans, and Cain is a joke with virtually zero chance of winning.
 
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Redress said:
You are nitpicking stupid ****. 99 % of the people who heard the quote did not, do not and will not know who said it. They only heard the message.
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You're right insofar as few would have made the connection to Pokemon. Of course, that's because few grownups ever saw it or paid attention to it if they watched it with their kids. But between him quoting a cartoon during a national debate, along with coming up with the same tax plan as one from SimCity, would hopefully cause some to consider that perhaps he would make a better candidate to be president of Nickelodeon than the United States.
 
Herman Cain appears to be imploding on InTrade. Here are the bettors' odds for each candidate winning the Republican nomination, as of right now:

Mitt Romney - 70.1%
Rick Perry - 10.3%
Newt Gingrich - 8.0%
Jon Huntsman - 3.0%
Herman Cain - 3.0%
 
Kandahar said:
Herman Cain appears to be imploding on InTrade. Here are the bettors' odds for each candidate winning the Republican nomination, as of right now:
Mitt Romney - 70.1%
Rick Perry - 10.3%
Newt Gingrich - 8.0%
Jon Huntsman - 3.0%
Herman Cain - 3.0%
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And what about Paul?
 
Simon W. Moon said:
And what about Paul?
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He is at 2.5 %. He should be proud, he is ahead of Bachmann.

Realize these are just betting odds, indicative only of what people betting think will happen.
 
Kandahar said:
Herman Cain appears to be imploding on InTrade. Here are the bettors' odds for each candidate winning the Republican nomination, as of right now:

Mitt Romney - 70.1%
Rick Perry - 10.3%
Newt Gingrich - 8.0%
Jon Huntsman - 3.0%
Herman Cain - 3.0%
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Sweet, that means I will earn money.:lol:
 
Camlon said:
Sweet, that means I will earn money.:lol:
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Did you bet on Obama? :lol:

He's currently the odds-on favorite at 50.4% to 47.1%.
 
AdamT said:
Did you bet on Obama? :lol:

He's currently the odds-on favorite at 50.4% to 47.1%.
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When I looked earlier today he was only 49.7 %.
 
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