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Rick Perry wants a 20% flat Federal income tax

Okay, but:

1. A 20% flat tax would be 3% higher than the 17% effective rate many of the "rich" enjoy now.
2. It removes deductions for those over $500k a year (charity, mortgage interest, state/local tax exemptions) while keeping them in place for those at $499k or less.
3. It increases dependent deductions (especially helpful for low-income families).
4. It would end taxes on Social Security receipts, which benefits the disabled and elderly.

But yes. It's totally an attempt to kiss the asses of the rich.

Good job.
 
Yep, how utterly terrible that he actually wants every one to be taxed equally. Interesting that supporters of the party that chants equality in most everything else doesn't seem to like the idea of equal taxation for all.

Another thing to consider, with a flat tax similar to what he is proposing, you get rid of all the various deductions and shelters, thus "the rich" would probably end up actually paying more in taxes than they currently do.

His proposal also allows people to choose the current tax plan or the flat tax. Existing deductions for those making less that $500,000 a year would be the same under the flat tax proposal.

Had he not made it an optional plan, he would be in trouble with a lot of his party because the flat tax would cause the "rich" to pay more in actual taxes.
 
Okay, but:

1. A 20% flat tax would be 3% higher than the 17% effective rate many of the "rich" enjoy now.
2. It removes deductions for those over $500k a year (charity, mortgage interest, state/local tax exemptions) while keeping them in place for those at $499k or less.
3. It increases dependent deductions (especially helpful for low-income families).
4. It would end taxes on Social Security receipts, which benefits the disabled and elderly.

But yes. It's totally an attempt to kiss the asses of the rich.

Good job.

it does, of course:

The plan also drops the corporate tax rate to 20 percent and will temporarily lower the rate to 5.25 percent to promote companies working overseas to move to the U.S. along with implementing a “territorial tax system,” which will tax in-country income.

The plan will eliminate the death tax and end taxes on Social Security, which would help an estimated 17 million Americans receiving benefits today. It would also cut taxes on qualified dividends and long-term capital gains.
remembering where the rich earn their money.......cap gains and dividends. already taxed at a low rate, and perry wants it to be lower.


also, this i a little disturbing.........

Until the budget is balanced, Perry’s plan would freeze federal civilian hiring and spending, and place a moratorium on all pending federal regulations, along with auditing any regulations, instituted since 2008.
 
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it does, of course:

remembering where the rich earn their money.......cap gains and dividends. already taxed at a low rate, and perry wants it to be lower.


also, this i a little disturbing.........

Until the budget is balanced, Perry’s plan would freeze federal civilian hiring and spending, and place a moratorium on all pending federal regulations, along with auditing any regulations, instituted since 2008.

So...doing something to bring companies back to America (something the left screams for daily) is bad?

And some of those regulations severely hindered U.S. businesses since 2008. You know, the place that jobs come from?
 
1. What regulations have severely hindered US business since 2008? Congress has been pretty much gridlocked since 2008 and unable to pass even a budget. The GOP keeps promoting this and yet cant even give examples that do not involve wall street, who deserved new regulation after the cluster**** they caused the planet.

2. His plan to "freeze federal civilian hiring and spending"... in other words he will spend more money on federal military spending.....

3. As for his Flat tax idea... wont work.. has not worked anywhere in the world, and wont work in the US. The only thing that will happen is an even bigger budget crisis and deficit.
 
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So...doing something to bring companies back to America (something the left screams for daily) is bad?

And some of those regulations severely hindered U.S. businesses since 2008. You know, the place that jobs come from?

no, it's not bad as long as that rate is only for business brought back here, and i saw no mention of that. and placing a moratorium on all regulations pending and active, since 2008? seriously? all financial regs? all environmental regs? ALL REGS? this is purely about yet more breaks for the rich and corporations. it's crystal clear. it's about pandering to his base, just like cain's stupid plan.

the plan is ridiculous, and only developed to see who could pander more to their base, cain or perry.
 
no, it's not bad as long as that rate is only for business brought back here, and i saw no mention of that. and placing a moratorium on all regulations pending and active, since 2008? seriously? all financial regs? all environmental regs? ALL REGS? this is purely about yet more breaks for the rich and corporations. it's crystal clear. it's about pandering to his base, just like cain's stupid plan.

the plan is ridiculous, and only developed to see who could pander more to their base, cain or perry.

Right. As opposed to spending $2 trillion on stimulus, several hundred billion on a failed "save your house" program, increasing federal obligations through the creation of Obama care (and double countying Medicaid money to call it "balanced"), asking (then implying he'll just take) for more money for the failed "save your house" program, and asking for what will be another $1 trillion or more in another weak stimulus. Or, as opposed to suggesting virtually nothing, as senate democrats have done since '08. Or, as opposed to a skeleton budget that provided no source of funding for proposed changes in spending, as Obama did.

An idea is better than nothing. Or failed programs. Both of which rest largely on the left's shoulders right now.
 
Right. As opposed to spending $2 trillion on stimulus, several hundred billion on a failed "save your house" program, increasing federal obligations through the creation of Obama care (and double countying Medicaid money to call it "balanced"), asking (then implying he'll just take) for more money for the failed "save your house" program, and asking for what will be another $1 trillion or more in another weak stimulus. Or, as opposed to suggesting virtually nothing, as senate democrats have done since '08. Or, as opposed to a skeleton budget that provided no source of funding for proposed changes in spending, as Obama did.

An idea is better than nothing. Or failed programs. Both of which rest largely on the left's shoulders right now.

Hey Texas would not have a "balanced" budget if it was not for that stimulus money...
 
looks like many folks failed to read the article in the OP, as Perry's plan would give folks the option of the 20% rate OR their current rate.

so its not really a flat-tax at all.
 
Rick Perry's Economic Fix: 20% Flat Tax, Cap Spending at 18% of GDP - Yahoo! News

So he wants to lower the Federal income tax-rate on the wealthy by 16%?

I guess we all know now who's side he is on.

Right, the income earners and those paying the most in taxes. Keep ignoring that 47% of American income earning households aren't paying ANY FIT and most of those are all under the 50,000 income level. Also you ignore that he is making it optional which I don't agree with, it should be mandatory and all people should be paying something.
 
Hey Texas would not have a "balanced" budget if it was not for that stimulus money...

Had TX not received the stimulus money which was created by taxpayers many of whom live in TX the Part time legislature would have still balanced the budget as that is a state Constitutional issue. Why should the taxpayers of TX not get some of their tax money back to fund the changed in Medicaid, changes in unemployment compensation forced on it by the Federal Govt?
 
Right, the income earners and those paying the most in taxes. Keep ignoring that 47% of American income earning households aren't paying ANY FIT....

yes, due to the Earned Income Tax-credit, various tax-loopholes, and lots of deduction.

are you saying you want to get rid of tax-loopholes? Mazel tov!!
 
yes, due to the Earned Income Tax-credit, various tax-loopholes, and lots of deduction.

are you saying you want to get rid of tax-loopholes? Mazel tov!!

I am for the govt. spending less money and for everyone paying something thus I support a flat tax, period.
 
As Thunder notes, few read the article he cited:
“The plan starts with giving Americans a choice between a new, flat tax rate of 20 percent or their current income tax rate,” Perry writes. “The new flat tax preserves mortgage interest, charitable and state and local tax exemptions for families earning less than $500,000 annually, and it increases the standard deduction to $12,500 for individuals and dependents.”

The plan also drops the corporate tax rate to 20 percent and will temporarily lower the rate to 5.25 percent to promote companies working overseas to move to the U.S. along with implementing a “territorial tax system,” which will tax in-country income.

The plan will eliminate the death tax and end taxes on Social Security, which would help an estimated 17 million Americans receiving benefits today. It would also cut taxes on qualified dividends and long-term capital gains.

Perry sets a goal to balance the budget by 2020 by capping federal spending at 18 percent of GDP, banning earmarks and future bailouts and passing a balanced budget amendment.

Until the budget is balanced, Perry’s plan would freeze federal civilian hiring and spending, and place a moratorium on all pending federal regulations, along with auditing any regulations, instituted since 2008.

Perry promises the repeal of President Obama’s health care plan, Dodd-Frank and Sarbonnes Oxley.

On entitlement reform, Perry says his plan will stop the “raiding” of the Social Security Trust Fund and allow younger generations to set up personal retirement accounts

This gives an overview of the plan. The portion I turned red seems to suggest Perry thought the mess GWB made in regard to regulations is A-OK. If so, he is moving from my assessment of very naive to idiot.
 
We always knew. ;)

Right, actually in the side of the actual taxpayers and against the big govt. policies. No wonder liberals are fighting so hard to destroy any competition to Obama
 
Rick Perry is done....its between Cain and Romny....If Cain wins Obama stays president....if Romney wins Romney will be president....
 
Rick Perry is done....its between Cain and Romny....If Cain wins Obama stays president....if Romney wins Romney will be president....

Romney's government healthcare program in Mass. may seal his fate with most Tea-Baggers.
 
Romney's government healthcare program in Mass. may seal his fate with most Tea-Baggers.

Why would anyone but the truly brainwashed vote for someone with this record? Romney knows what most states' rights individuals know, healthcare is a state responsibility not a Federal Responsibility and Romney has promised to repeal Obamacare and do what Obama should have done, allow the states to implement their own program.

Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
 
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because his opponents would be worse.

better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

Aw, but his opponents aren't worse, all have more experience than the guy you voted for in 2008. All are better qualified and all would do a better job than this incompetent President
 
How dare he want everyone to pay their fair share by proposing a flat tax. Shame on him.

Liberals want to define fair share which right now means 53% of the Households paying taxes increase the amount that they pay and letting the other 47% slide. Apparently zero is the fair share for these people.
 
Liberals want to define fair share which right now means 53% of the Households paying taxes increase the amount that they pay and letting the other 47% slide. Apparently zero is the fair share for these people.

It just amazes me that people think that is fair.
 
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