Is Right Already Making Excuses That Obama Will Win Re-Election?

pbrauer · Oct 25, 2011

Blame the media.

BERNIE GOLDBERG: The media can’t possibly be as enthusiastic this time around as they were last time around. I think that’s a physical impossibility. I mean, if they slobber all over him as much this time as they did last time, the media and the President would have to get a room. But if the question is will they be as enthusiastic, or not as but enthusiastic again, I think the answer is “Yes.” [clip]

Read more: Goldberg: If They Slobber Over Obama in '12 Like They Did in '08 'Media and the President Would Have to Get a Room' | NewsBusters.org

American · Oct 25, 2011

So where are the excuses? The link has no relation to the thread title.

hazlnut · Oct 25, 2011

pbrauer said:
Blame the media.

Read more: Goldberg: If They Slobber Over Obama in '12 Like They Did in '08 'Media and the President Would Have to Get a Room' | NewsBusters.org

Exactly.

Maybe... they should try fielding a legitimate candidate.... ya think?

cpwill · Oct 25, 2011

ah, but it is a great chance for me to post this:

American · Oct 25, 2011

hazlnut said:
Exactly.

Maybe... they should try fielding a legitimate candidate.... ya think?

Like your side is?

American · Oct 25, 2011

cpwill said:
ah, but it is a great chance for me to post this:

If Obama came to a sudden stop, Newsweek would be looding out of Obama's mouth.

hazlnut · Oct 25, 2011

The GOP answer to a Harvard Law editor of the law review...

Herman Cain: Dope and Change (my mind)

Frolicking Dinosaurs · Oct 25, 2011

The GOP may just be facing facts.

As others have noted, the GOP has yet to get itself on the same page about what the GOP platform is and has yet to find a candidate that is acceptable even to their own membership, much less to the electorate.

The GOP has also failed to attract the electorate to join the GOPs. Check out this from AP polls:

Source: http://surveys.ap.org/data\GfK\AP-GfK Poll October 2011 Topline FINAL_BUD2-CAMX-OWS.pdf (page 7)

Redress · Oct 25, 2011

One of the right's biggest weapons is the liberal media claim. Nothing is actually their fault, it's just the liberal media smearing them. Palin never said anything stupid, it was the media's fault. Bush was really a great president, it is just the liberal media that portrays him as being so bad. Paul is not really a fringe element candidate, it's just the liberal media makes him that way. Republicans do not favor Romney, it's just the liberal media picking the candidate they want.

Nick2253 · Oct 25, 2011

Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
The GOP may just be facing facts.

As others have noted, the GOP has yet to get itself on the same page about what the GOP platform is and has yet to find a candidate that is acceptable even to their own membership, much less to the electorate.

The GOP has also failed to attract the electorate to join the GOPs. Check out this from AP polls:

Source: http://surveys.ap.org/data\GfK\AP-GfK Poll October 2011 Topline FINAL_BUD2-CAMX-OWS.pdf (page 7)

Don't count the chickens before they hatch. Right now, the GOP is in a wrestling match with itself to determine the candidate. As soon as a leader emerges, the GOP will rally behind him (or her, but I don't think Bachmann really has a chance), and coalesce around their platform. Then, it will be the candidate's job to sell the platform to the people.

If you've already forgotten, the exact same thing happened in 2008 between Obama and Clinton. Both had differing philosophies about the direction of the country, but one thing they agreed on very strongly: down with the Republican. In 2012, the Republicans may be divided on policy, but they are unified behind making a "One Term Obama". There is still more than a year before the elections, and the voting public has a very short memory.

BalmerLiberal · Oct 25, 2011

Kids, um... the election is more than a year away.

apdst · Oct 25, 2011

Redress said:
One of the right's biggest weapons is the liberal media claim. Nothing is actually their fault, it's just the liberal media smearing them. Palin never said anything stupid, it was the media's fault. Bush was really a great president, it is just the liberal media that portrays him as being so bad. Paul is not really a fringe element candidate, it's just the liberal media makes him that way. Republicans do not favor Romney, it's just the liberal media picking the candidate they want.

Where were you last November? Did you notice the midterm results? How about the Louisiana governer's race this past weekend. Did you see Bobby Jindal win 66% of the vote?

There will whining and excuses in 2012, but it will be coming from the Libbos, not the Right wingers.

Redress · Oct 25, 2011

apdst said:
Where were you last November? Did you notice the midterm results? How about the Louisiana governer's race this past weekend. Did you see Bobby Jindal win 66% of the vote?

There will whining and excuses in 2012, but it will be coming from the Libbos, not the Right wingers.

You completely and totally did not follow what I said in any way did you?

apdst · Oct 25, 2011

Redress said:
You completely and totally did not follow what I said in any way did you?

See? Making excuses, already.

Redress · Oct 25, 2011

apdst said:
See? Making excuses, already.

Huh? I am not sure what posts you are responding to, but it sure as hell isn't my posts that you are quoting. Your replies have not had anything to do with my posts.

cpwill · Oct 25, 2011

Redress said:
One of the right's biggest weapons is the liberal media claim. Nothing is actually their fault, it's just the liberal media smearing them.

not at all - but it does tilt the playing field. much less so now than it used to, after the development of alternate media outlets, but it is there.

cpwill · Oct 25, 2011

apdst said:
Where were you last November? Did you notice the midterm results?

i think i remember hearing something about alot of irrational anger causing voters to throw a fit.....

How about the Louisiana governer's race this past weekend. Did you see Bobby Jindal win 66% of the vote?

much less important than talking about how awesome the President is for killing Qaddafi (which he did personally, beating him to death with his nobel peace prize medal), how awesome the President is for withdrawing troops from Iraq (no mention need be necessary that it's due to an utter diplomatic failure), and how stupid Rick Perry is.

OH, and I think I also saw something very important about how Marco Rubio was a liar because of something that had happened to his parents 12-15 years before he was born.

There will whining and excuses in 2012, but it will be coming from the Libbos, not the Right wingers.

yeah. I'm thinking it will be of the "anger", "racism", and "well it would have happened to anyone" variety.

roughdraft274 · Oct 25, 2011

Redress said:
One of the right's biggest weapons is the liberal media claim. Nothing is actually their fault, it's just the liberal media smearing them. Palin never said anything stupid, it was the media's fault. Bush was really a great president, it is just the liberal media that portrays him as being so bad. Paul is not really a fringe element candidate, it's just the liberal media makes him that way. Republicans do not favor Romney, it's just the liberal media picking the candidate they want.

apdst said:
Where were you last November? Did you notice the midterm results? How about the Louisiana governer's race this past weekend. Did you see Bobby Jindal win 66% of the vote?

There will whining and excuses in 2012, but it will be coming from the Libbos, not the Right wingers.

Wow. Talk about missing the point completely. Let me guess, was it the liberal media's fault that you completely whiffed on your reply APDST?

Hicup · Oct 25, 2011

pbrauer said:
Blame the media.

Read more: Goldberg: If They Slobber Over Obama in '12 Like They Did in '08 'Media and the President Would Have to Get a Room' | NewsBusters.org

I'm convinced you really don't have any conservative friends, PB? No one, and I mean NO ONE could be so often wrong about conservatives as you?

Tim-

jasonxe · Oct 25, 2011

He can be my friend! :3

apdst · Oct 25, 2011

roughdraft274 said:
Wow. Talk about missing the point completely. Let me guess, was it the liberal media's fault that you completely whiffed on your reply APDST?

As usual, when Libbos get smoked, they're the only ones that understood what they were actually saying.

Aunt Spiker · Oct 25, 2011

Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
The GOP may just be facing facts.

As others have noted, the GOP has yet to get itself on the same page about what the GOP platform is and has yet to find a candidate that is acceptable even to their own membership, much less to the electorate.

The GOP has also failed to attract the electorate to join the GOPs. Check out this from AP polls:
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Source: http://surveys.ap.org/data\GfK\AP-GfK Poll October 2011 Topline FINAL_BUD2-CAMX-OWS.pdf (page 7)

The one that follows on pg 8 (G11a) is more interesting, though. . .Conservative/Moderate/Liberal.

Most people consider their selves to be moderate - and while the numbers haven't changed over the last two years much within their own category - when you compare that to the one you listed there's an uneveness. . . With Conservative and Somewhat Conservative taking more ticks.

It is also interesting to note who their polling individuals are per the poll stats on pg 9 (EM1) - the majority of their polling populous is retired.

The majority also own their homes and don't have children and are white. . . in fact - most of these individuals polled were white.

Frolicking Dinosaurs · Oct 25, 2011

BalmerLiberal said:
Kids, um... the election is more than a year away.

True. However, with the GOP pushing up the primaries to early spring. We will know who the GOP nominee is within four months. By May we will know if the TP is willing to get behind Romney or if moderate GOPs are willing to get behind Cain.

Another possibility: 58% are polling as very angry about the government (both parties) now. If the middle between the extremes get angry enough, they may decide to get behind a populist candidate and dump both Obama and whoever the GOP runs. It hasn't happened in a while, but the conditions are right. Check history.

American · Oct 25, 2011

hazlnut said:
The GOP answer to a Harvard Law editor of the law review...

Herman Cain: Dope and Change (my mind)

Yeah, and Herman Cain is a successful man compared to the dumbass Harvard Review editor you voted in.

American · Oct 25, 2011

Redress said:
One of the right's biggest weapons is the liberal media claim. Nothing is actually their fault, it's just the liberal media smearing them. Palin never said anything stupid, it was the media's fault. Bush was really a great president, it is just the liberal media that portrays him as being so bad. Paul is not really a fringe element candidate, it's just the liberal media makes him that way. Republicans do not favor Romney, it's just the liberal media picking the candidate they want.

That's obviously Bush's fault.

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