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Rick Perry approves business grants to his donors.

Thunder said:
Rick Perry approved business grants to donors, inviting Solyndra comparisons - Yahoo! News



yep, this guy is toast. Romney will be the nominee.
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"old news" so to say. Perry went from poor farmer boy to very rich because of shady land deals with his backers and other questionable things. He has even been investigated for it at times, but of course the Texan so called justice system did not find anything wrong.

But yes, Perry is toast for now at least. It is between Cain and Romney and will come down to who puts foot in "ass through own mouth" first and my money is on Cain since he has a big mouth. Romney will be the candidate and that is both good and bad... Of course we can hope that Romney gets arrested for voter fraud before that..
 
PeteEU said:
...But yes, Perry is toast for now at least. It is between Cain and Romney and will come down to who puts foot in "ass through own mouth" first and my money is on Cain since he has a big mouth. Romney will be the candidate and that is both good and bad... Of course we can hope that Romney gets arrested for voter fraud before that..
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Romney can beat Obama. Cain would be destroyed by Obama.
 
Obama was involved more questionable stuff than this and he still got elected.
 
apdst said:
Obama was involved more questionable stuff than this and he still got elected.
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grasping for straws are we?

So when did Obama on an almost constant basis get sweetheart deals for land and stocks from his political backers and re-payed them with political jobs and state contracts?
 
PeteEU said:
grasping for straws are we?

So when did Obama on an almost constant basis get sweetheart deals for land and stocks from his political backers and re-payed them with political jobs and state contracts?
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Solyndra, SEIU, UAW, Catapiller, GE, for starters. I'm sure a little digging would reveal evern more. Should we dig those up?

The point is, I doubt Perry's back door deals will keep out of the nomination, just it didn't keep Obama out of the nominationa dn ulimately the white house.
 
PeteEU said:
grasping for straws are we?

So when did Obama on an almost constant basis get sweetheart deals for land and stocks from his political backers and re-payed them with political jobs and state contracts?
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it never happened.
 
apdst said:
Solyndra, SEIU, UAW, Catapiller, GE, for starters. I'm sure a little digging would reveal evern more. Should we dig those up?

The point is, I doubt Perry's back door deals will keep out of the nomination, just it didn't keep Obama out of the nominationa dn ulimately the white house.
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Point is you cant seem to grasp the difference... Obama did not personally benefit from any of those so called scandals you bring up... Perry did benefit personally from his dealings.

But yes, it most likely wont be a major issue since there is so much else to slam him with.
 
PeteEU said:
grasping for straws are we?

So when did Obama on an almost constant basis get sweetheart deals for land and stocks from his political backers and re-payed them with political jobs and state contracts?
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that sounds more like harry reid
 
apdst said:
Solyndra, SEIU, UAW, Catapiller, GE, for starters. I'm sure a little digging would reveal evern more. Should we dig those up?

The point is, I doubt Perry's back door deals will keep out of the nomination, just it didn't keep Obama out of the nominationa dn ulimately the white house.
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yes, please do dig something up to show us an inappropriate relationship with Obama

and yes, i expect you to run away from that challenge, too
 
justabubba said:
yes, please do dig something up to show us an inappropriate relationship with Obama

and yes, i expect you to run away from that challenge, too
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How about Goldman Sachs and Obama? Here, this even from the ubber liberal Huffington Post: Bob Ostertag: Goldman Sachs, Obama, Money

How about Obama and William Ayers? Obama Needs to Explain His Ties to William Ayers - Michael Barone (usnews.com)

How about Obama and Solyndra and the owner that was a bundler for Obama's campaign? Bankrupt Solar Company | Obama Administration | Campaign Donations | The Daily Caller
 
Isn't this the literal textbook definition of bribery and corruption?
 
ksu_aviator said:
How about Goldman Sachs and Obama? Here, this even from the ubber liberal Huffington Post: Bob Ostertag: Goldman Sachs, Obama, Money
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Irrelevant; you'd have to show a direction connection between the 2008 campaign donations made by Goldman Sach employees and some tangible benefit either the contributors or the company received from the White House or the President. Wealthy donor contributions do not in and of themselves constitute ethics violations. Now, one could try to make the argument that since Goldman Sach had the largest pool of employee donors there could be a bias from the Treasury to tread favorably on behalf of Goldman Sachs where their share of toxic assets are concerned, but you'd have to show that all other banks who received a capital infusion under TARP did not receive the same "fair" treatment. Good Luck proving that one.

How about Obama and William Ayers? Obama Needs to Explain His Ties to William Ayers - Michael Barone (usnews.com)
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Again, irrelevant. So, they were "associates" on a board together. And? Show where William Ayers has benefitted monitarily directly from President Obama or his Administration and I'll join you on that call for impeachment. Until then...next!

How about Obama and Solyndra and the owner that was a bundler for Obama's campaign? Bankrupt Solar Company | Obama Administration | Campaign Donations | The Daily Caller
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Now, this one might be a little trickier but from what I've read of the matter it can easily be explained as either:

a) a former fundraiser gets what amounts to a "liaison" position w/Dept of Energy but has no direct managerial connection or approval authority with the Solyndra loan. In essence, Mr. Spinner could easily be cast as someone who was viewed either as being over enthusiastic in his job. OR...

b) a DoE employee takes matters into his own hands and imbellished a few statements in order to pressure folks on both sides of the Obama Administration involved with the Solydra deal - Treasury and Energy - to meet the target deadlines since that was his job. And although there were communications between Mr. Spinner and members of the President's Executive Office staff, there hasn't been an evidence to date that links the President or members of his stafft to Mr. Spinner in an unethical way. His job included conducting PR work on behalf of those companies whose loans were approved under the Energy Dept's loan guarantee program and that required communicating with appropriate White House staff. As of yet, I see no problem here other than one alternative energy loan going bust. Makes for bad White House PR, but...

And then there's this...

c) an attempt by atleast one Administrative staffer, Mrs. Miller, to inquire of the Dept. of Energy and get confirmation on their legal position as to who was to receive repayment of government loan money first - investors or the government. I'd say the President and the White House have lots of latitude here.

Sidenote: Does the Solyndra deal tic me off? Yes, but so did the bailouts...:shrug:
 
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ksu_aviator said:
How about Goldman Sachs and Obama? Here, this even from the ubber liberal Huffington Post: Bob Ostertag: Goldman Sachs, Obama, Money
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no Obama connection


How about Obama and William Ayers? Obama Needs to Explain His Ties to William Ayers - Michael Barone (usnews.com)
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your breaking out this casual relationship with chicago's 1997 citizen of the year proves how you have nothing to defend your foolish argument


How about Obama and Solyndra and the owner that was a bundler for Obama's campaign? Bankrupt Solar Company | Obama Administration | Campaign Donations | The Daily Caller
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bad loan. i have made a bunch of them. and yes, i spent taxpayer money when doing so
often had to ignore lots of political pressure to make an imprudent financial decision for political reasons. i refused. whoever approved that loan likely caved. if you can show that Obama was the one putting the pressure to make that loan, whether directly or indirectly, i will move to your side of the argument
until then, you've got your usual nothing
 
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