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Pastor backing Perry: Romney not a Christian

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In my opinion, the fact Mitt Romney is Mormon will be a huge stumbling block for Romney winning the Republican nomination, especially in the Bible Belt and the South. And if Perry gets the nomination, he will have a problem in the general because he wears his religion on his sleeve.



First Read - Pastor backing Perry: Romney not a Christian


The Texas pastor who introduced Gov. Rick Perry at Friday's Values Voters Summit in Washington told reporters that he does not believe that former Massachusetts Mitt Romney is a Christian, and called Romney's Mormon faith a "cult."

"Well, Rick Perry's a Christian. He's an evangelical Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ," Dr. Robert Jeffress told NBC News. "Mitt Romney's a good moral person but he's not a Christian. Mormonism is not Christianity. It has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of Christianity. So it's the difference between a Christian and a non-Christian."

[snip]​
 
bible thumpers wanna make me hurl
 
Wonder if the rouge element in the GOP will pull something like what GWB's campaign did to McCain in 2000? Guess I'll have to put on Haz-mat suit and check out what FoxNew is spewing about this.
 
It won't be a factor in the Republican primary. It's only three months until the first vote are cast, and it's barely even been an issue in this campaign. And I don't anticipate that changing before the primaries...the other candidates will be loathe to bring that up.

I imagine that in the general election, we'll hear more about Mormonism from people who are genuinely curious about the religion of one of the presidential candidates, but I really don't think it will be a big albatross around his neck. If Obama's approval rating is still in the low 40s next year at this time, he's done. What states might Mitt Romney lose to Barack Obama because of his religion? I can't think of any.
 
Similar questions arose when JFK was running because he was a Roman Catholic and it turned out his Religious convictions was never a factor in his ability to Govern and never came up that I recall after he was elected.

JFK was the last Democrat in the office that was popular with just about everyone as I recall.

I am sure there were some who didn't care for him but I don't remember talking with any of them.

I was a talk radio fanatic long before JFK but he got me interested in politics and his Religion never entered into ti.

I did became a Conservative but that's how I say things and I was raised in an all Democrat family and that included all uncles aunts and grand parents.

I think few people know very much about Mormons and there theology, and if they did this would not be a big deal.

What is important to me is a person's Political stance and adherence to the rule of law and the Constitution.
 
bible thumpers wanna make me hurl

Holy smokes, Turtle and I agree on something!

I'd never vote for Romney on the basis of him being a Mormon.
 
In my opinion, the fact Mitt Romney is Mormon will be a huge stumbling block for Romney winning the Republican nomination, especially in the Bible Belt and the South. And if Perry gets the nomination, he will have a problem in the general because he wears his religion on his sleeve.



First Read - Pastor backing Perry: Romney not a Christian


The Texas pastor who introduced Gov. Rick Perry at Friday's Values Voters Summit in Washington told reporters that he does not believe that former Massachusetts Mitt Romney is a Christian, and called Romney's Mormon faith a "cult."

"Well, Rick Perry's a Christian. He's an evangelical Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ," Dr. Robert Jeffress told NBC News. "Mitt Romney's a good moral person but he's not a Christian. Mormonism is not Christianity. It has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of Christianity. So it's the difference between a Christian and a non-Christian."

[snip]​

oops, there it is.

I once sat in on a class at en evangelical church where they would explain each week how some other religion was going to hell.
 
Holy smokes, Turtle and I agree on something!

I'd never vote for Romney on the basis of him being a Mormon.

I couldn't care less if he has a shrine to Ba'al in his recreation room or sacrifices chickens to Papa Doc in his garage as long as he supports legislation I like and appoints good judges etc

he could be having sex with a shetland pony or wear fishnet tights under his suit for all I care. its the POLICIES I care about
 
I couldn't care less if he has a shrine to Ba'al in his recreation room or sacrifices chickens to Papa Doc in his garage as long as he supports legislation I like and appoints good judges etc

he could be having sex with a shetland pony or wear fishnet tights under his suit for all I care. its the POLICIES I care about

Well his policies change weekly so that's not a very good criteria either ;)
 
In my opinion, the fact Mitt Romney is Mormon will be a huge stumbling block for Romney winning the Republican nomination, especially in the Bible Belt and the South. And if Perry gets the nomination, he will have a problem in the general because he wears his religion on his sleeve.



First Read - Pastor backing Perry: Romney not a Christian

The Texas pastor who introduced Gov. Rick Perry at Friday's Values Voters Summit in Washington told reporters that he does not believe that former Massachusetts Mitt Romney is a Christian, and called Romney's Mormon faith a "cult."

"Well, Rick Perry's a Christian. He's an evangelical Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ," Dr. Robert Jeffress told NBC News. "Mitt Romney's a good moral person but he's not a Christian. Mormonism is not Christianity. It has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of Christianity. So it's the difference between a Christian and a non-Christian."

[snip]​

The fact Mitt Romney is a liberal will be a huge stumbling block for Romney winning the Republican nomination period. This boo hoo no one will vote for me because I'm a Mormon is nothing more than a ploy to distract from the fact he is a liberal and a way to try to guilt trip people into voting for him.A lot of Christians and southerners tend to vote for conservatives not man made global warming fairy tale believing, anti-2nd amendment, pro-illegal immigration, pro-gay marriage and pro-socialized medicine liberals. There might be a few nuts who give a **** if he is a Mormon but most likely if someone didn't vote for it is because he is not a democrat or because he is a liberal. The only idiots voting for Romney are die hard party members and the politically illiterate who don't know squat about Romney.
 
Well his policies change weekly so that's not a very good criteria either ;)

as long as they are less whacko than Obama's I would vote for him

besides the party picks 99% of the judges
 
In my opinion, the fact Mitt Romney is Mormon will be a huge stumbling block for Romney winning the Republican nomination, especially in the Bible Belt and the South. And if Perry gets the nomination, he will have a problem in the general because he wears his religion on his sleeve.



First Read - Pastor backing Perry: Romney not a Christian

The Texas pastor who introduced Gov. Rick Perry at Friday's Values Voters Summit in Washington told reporters that he does not believe that former Massachusetts Mitt Romney is a Christian, and called Romney's Mormon faith a "cult."

"Well, Rick Perry's a Christian. He's an evangelical Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ," Dr. Robert Jeffress told NBC News. "Mitt Romney's a good moral person but he's not a Christian. Mormonism is not Christianity. It has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of Christianity. So it's the difference between a Christian and a non-Christian."

[snip]



I was waiting for this to surface. I am surprised it took this long. Yep, the Republican's bazooka is armed and they have their own foot in the crosshairs. They would have a shot of winning in 2012 if they weren't so hell bent on shooting themselves in the foot.
 
In my opinion, the fact Mitt Romney is Mormon will be a huge stumbling block for Romney winning the Republican nomination, especially in the Bible Belt and the South. And if Perry gets the nomination, he will have a problem in the general because he wears his religion on his sleeve.


First Read - Pastor backing Perry: Romney not a Christian

The Texas pastor who introduced Gov. Rick Perry at Friday's Values Voters Summit in Washington told reporters that he does not believe that former Massachusetts Mitt Romney is a Christian, and called Romney's Mormon faith a "cult."

"Well, Rick Perry's a Christian. He's an evangelical Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ," Dr. Robert Jeffress told NBC News. "Mitt Romney's a good moral person but he's not a Christian. Mormonism is not Christianity. It has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of Christianity. So it's the difference between a Christian and a non-Christian."

[snip]​

So who is this Dr. Robert Jeffress? I've never heard of him. And who's listening to him? And why does this matter to progressives and liberals who aren't going to vote for any GOP nominee?

Or is this just a "Bible thumpers make me hurl" thread?
 
as long as they are less whacko than Obama's I would vote for him

besides the party picks 99% of the judges

I have to wonder how true that is.Is a liberal republican going to appoint someone whose views are opposite of his on a number of issues? Do you think someone who supports the Brady Bill would actually pick a pro-2nd amendment judge?
 
bible thumpers wanna make me hurl
I could never vote for Romney for other reasons, I think it disgusting that someone wouldn't vote because of religion. A week before Perry announced his candidacy he held a huge prayer rally in Houston, I think because of Romney's religion.
 
So who is this Dr. Robert Jeffress? I've never heard of him. And who's listening to him? And why does this matter to progressives and liberals who aren't going to vote for any GOP nominee?

Or is this just a "Bible thumpers make me hurl" thread?
On one hand I don't care, on the other it will be interesting to watch. I could be wrong, but I think religion will play big role the primary.
 
Wonder if the rouge element in the GOP will pull something like what GWB's campaign did to McCain in 2000? Guess I'll have to put on Haz-mat suit and check out what FoxNew is spewing about this.

I am more worried about the eyeliner element in the GOP myself.

Seriously, who cares what some guy that Perry knows thinks?
 
I could never vote for Romney for other reasons, I think it disgusting that someone wouldn't vote because of religion. A week before Perry announced his candidacy he held a huge prayer rally in Houston, I think because of Romney's religion.

That's a major fault I find with both of them. *shrug*
 
Just to get this out of the way: I'm a Mormon. I'm a Christian. End of story, as far as I'm concerned. I don't care what some pastor says or what Mike Huckabee says or what half the Republican party says. I believe in Jesus Christ and I try to follow Him as best I can. Whether I'm an "authentic" Christian or not is up to Him, not anyone else.

Now, that said, I'm not looking forward to Romney being the candidate. He's too squishy on some of his political stances, and he's a serial panderer. I don't trust the depth of his convictions. I'd rather someone else get the nod. It'll probably be Romney, though, and I'll have to hold my nose and vote for him.
 
I don't care. I wouldn't vote for Romney because quite honestly, I have no idea what the man stands for. However, that decision is not based on religion. A man can subscribe to any religion he wants.
 
I don't care. I wouldn't vote for Romney because quite honestly, I have no idea what the man stands for. However, that decision is not based on religion. A man can subscribe to any religion he wants.

Agreed. He's much too wishy-washy. A man can subscribe to any religion he wants, but I can also choose whether or not to vote for him based on my criteria, such as religious preferences.
 
In my opinion, the fact Mitt Romney is Mormon will be a huge stumbling block for Romney winning the Republican nomination, especially in the Bible Belt and the South. And if Perry gets the nomination, he will have a problem in the general because he wears his religion on his sleeve.



First Read - Pastor backing Perry: Romney not a Christian


The Texas pastor who introduced Gov. Rick Perry at Friday's Values Voters Summit in Washington told reporters that he does not believe that former Massachusetts Mitt Romney is a Christian, and called Romney's Mormon faith a "cult."

"Well, Rick Perry's a Christian. He's an evangelical Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ," Dr. Robert Jeffress told NBC News. "Mitt Romney's a good moral person but he's not a Christian. Mormonism is not Christianity. It has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of Christianity. So it's the difference between a Christian and a non-Christian."

[snip]​

Rick-Perry-with-gun.jpg

Perry: Finally something good happen. Shooting time!
 
Isn't it ironic that those who are usually the first to throw the "Christian" label on themselves ....are almost always the ones who are the least Christian and have the least understanding of the life of Jesus Christ?
 
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