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how many pro lifers think zimmerman is innocent ?

for pro lifers about zimmerman case

  • yes

    Votes: 10 71.4%

  • no

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • l dont know

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • other

    Votes: 4 28.6%
  • Total voters
    14
Medusa said:
If you think George Zimmerman is innocent still, I encourage you to read the following and please feel free to share why you think it is wrong. To me, he is murderer of an unarmed teenager. And he not only is free but is also free to get his gun back after the unjust acquittal. The scum whom represented him says Zimmerman needs his gun “even more” now. Some people say we will never know what happened or whom did what first, but the bottom line is Zimmerman is supposed to be a man, or rather, an adult, and Trayvon was an unarmed teenager.

Speaking of fists fights, Zimmerman should have been charged simply for hitting a minor if it had gone that way; so for KILLING an unarmed minor, things should be a hell of a lot different. And if a grown man couldn’t fight off a teenager or with strain him, (I do not blame this on Trayvon, by the way, I believe this to completely be Zimmerman, I am saying IF) then he shouldn’t have the title as a man; what if it had been his own teenage child fighting him, would he have pulled out his gun and killed him, too?


How Can You Say Zimmerman Isn’t a Murderer After His Past, ALONE? | Truth- A Right to Fight For...



The Huffington Post made a great point for all those who believe Zimmerman is no killer and was only acting in “self defense” by shooting a teenager that he had –for no legit reason- been following, there are a few things you should consider.

Zimmerman could have listened to the 911 operator and not followed Martin. Talking to an operator, Zimmerman complained, “These assholes, they always get away.”

He later narrated, “****, he’s running.”

“Are you following him?” the operator asked.

Zimmerman confirmed he was. “Ok, we don’t need you to do that,” the operator told him.

If Zimmerman had simply let Martin run away, he’d be alive today.




If Zimmerman had not been secretly armed, he probably wouldn’t have followed Martin. Zimmerman knew that he had an advantage in any possible confrontation with a neighbor: He was concealing a weapon. If a fight started, and Zimmerman began losing, he could pull out the gun and shoot his opponent. The state of Florida allows Zimmerman to patrol his neighborhood armed, which emboldened him.
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Let me point out a few holes in the argument:

1. Trayvon was 17, it's not like he was a 14 year old boy with no strength. He was fit enough to beat a grown man.
2. Zimmerman did not hit Martin.
3. Martin was armed, it's called the sidewalk and fists.
4. Nothing illegal about following someone.
5. Z was headed back to his car when Martin jumped him. Martin is at fault, and because of his actions, dead.
 
Medusa said:
If you think George Zimmerman is innocent still, I encourage you to read the following and please feel free to share why you think it is wrong. To me, he is murderer of an unarmed teenager. And he not only is free but is also free to get his gun back after the unjust acquittal. The scum whom represented him says Zimmerman needs his gun “even more” now. Some people say we will never know what happened or whom did what first, but the bottom line is Zimmerman is supposed to be a man, or rather, an adult, and Trayvon was an unarmed teenager.

Speaking of fists fights, Zimmerman should have been charged simply for hitting a minor if it had gone that way; so for KILLING an unarmed minor, things should be a hell of a lot different. And if a grown man couldn’t fight off a teenager or with strain him, (I do not blame this on Trayvon, by the way, I believe this to completely be Zimmerman, I am saying IF) then he shouldn’t have the title as a man; what if it had been his own teenage child fighting him, would he have pulled out his gun and killed him, too?


How Can You Say Zimmerman Isn’t a Murderer After His Past, ALONE? | Truth- A Right to Fight For...



The Huffington Post made a great point for all those who believe Zimmerman is no killer and was only acting in “self defense” by shooting a teenager that he had –for no legit reason- been following, there are a few things you should consider.

Zimmerman could have listened to the 911 operator and not followed Martin. Talking to an operator, Zimmerman complained, “These assholes, they always get away.”

He later narrated, “****, he’s running.”

“Are you following him?” the operator asked.

Zimmerman confirmed he was. “Ok, we don’t need you to do that,” the operator told him.

If Zimmerman had simply let Martin run away, he’d be alive today.




If Zimmerman had not been secretly armed, he probably wouldn’t have followed Martin. Zimmerman knew that he had an advantage in any possible confrontation with a neighbor: He was concealing a weapon. If a fight started, and Zimmerman began losing, he could pull out the gun and shoot his opponent. The state of Florida allows Zimmerman to patrol his neighborhood armed, which emboldened him.
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The basics of the case have been covered multiple times ad nauseum in many threads throughout the past year, we've been over this, the prosecution and the defense went over this in his trial, the jury went over it and found Zimmerman not guilty. You are derailing your own thread with this post as it has nothing to do with the OP.

I recommend you look into this by reviewing less biased coverage, look at the actual details of the case and not the bull**** spewed by one side or the other.
 
Medusa said:
if someone follows you wont you be in self defense jamews
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Assaulting someone for merely following you is not self defense, nor is it justified.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
Let me point out a few holes in the argument:

1. Trayvon was 17, it's not like he was a 14 year old boy with no strength. He was fit enough to beat a grown man.
2. Zimmerman did not hit Martin.
3. Martin was armed, it's called the sidewalk and fists.
4. Nothing illegal about following someone.
5. Z was headed back to his car when Martin jumped him. Martin is at fault, and because of his actions, dead.
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compared to gun ?
 
Medusa said:
hi goshh:2wave:

it is said he was following martin and tahts why l believe martin's act was a self defense

he shouldnt have followed martin

l think we can agree on this
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I will agree that Z following TM was not a particularly good idea.... but not a criminal act, nor in and of itself justification for the assault.


As I've said several times now... I've been followed by suspicious characters before. My responses have varied, but I have yet to "do a Trayvon" on any of them just for following me alone.
 
Medusa said:
when he is black
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George Zimmerman is hispanic, he has black relatives, he has mentored black youths , he has black friends, one of them has continuously spoken up for George Zimmerman against the mindless onslaught of those who want to make this about race, when it has nothing to do with it at all.

The race card isn't even remotely applicable in this case when it comes to George Zimmerman, I can't say the same for the other side though...
 
Medusa said:
NAACP, MoveOn:

CNSNews.com) – A petition by the NAACP – which has shown support for abortion – and the ardently pro-abortion MoveOn.org invokes the “right to life” in calling for the U.S. Justice Department to take action against George Zimmerman, acquitted of a murder charge Saturday by a Florida jury over the death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. - See more at: NAACP, MoveOn:


The most fundamental of civil rights—the right to life—was violated the night George Zimmerman stalked and then took the life of Trayvon Martin,” the petition said. “We ask that the Department of Justice file civil rights charges against Mr. Zimmerman for this egregious violation.”

MoveOn.org announced more than 250,000 people had signed the petition by Monday afternoon.
- See more at: NAACP, MoveOn:
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When Martin assaulted Zimmerman, he gave up his right to life.
 
Medusa said:
l think this forum needs more justice

some people posted the pic of a white boy killed by a black guy and asked me if l would defend the white victim

why do you think they need to ask it >?
l am not even american
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"needs more justice"...

Are you upset about the outcome of the court case? Or are you upset about the reaction of the members of this forum? I'm thinking the latter.

Medusa, you must know that 90% of what you read here...on any topic...is going to be against your opinion and that 50% of that stuff is going to include outrageous rhetoric. That's just the way it is in political forums. Does the reaction of the forum members bother you so much you'll start posting idiotic stuff? Like saying there is some kind of connection between pro-lifers and people (conservatives) who agree with the court's ruling?

Well...I, for one, hope you return to your usual level-headed thinking process. Maybe putting this whole issue behind you will be a good step toward getting there.
 
Mycroft said:
"needs more justice"...

Are you upset about the outcome of the court case? Or are you upset about the reaction of the members of this forum? I'm thinking the latter.

Medusa, you must know that 90% of what you read here...on any topic...is going to be against your opinion and that 50% of that stuff is going to include outrageous rhetoric. That's just the way it is in political forums. Does the reaction of the forum members bother you so much you'll start posting idiotic stuff? Like saying there is some kind of connection between pro-lifers and people (conservatives) who agree with the court's ruling?

Well...I, for one, hope you return to your usual level-headed thinking process. Maybe putting this whole issue behind you will be a good step toward getting there.
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there shouldnt be any connection between abortion and a murder ,yes



but they call abortion murder

you know it

do you think they would feel happy if zimmerman was found guilty ?

would they keep posting their own idiotic stuff ?

all l see in this forum is lots of people who are willing to slander a dead boy .they have been spending their time to do it and it disturbed me mycroft


l agree with that statement

thx

but l am not the one who needs to keep away from this forum

l am not addicted

:lol:
 
Medusa said:
there shouldnt be any connection between abortion and a murder ,yes



but they call abortion murder

you know it

do you think they would feel happy if zimmerman was found guilty ?

would they keep posting their own idiotic stuff ?

all l see in this forum is lots of people who are willing to slander a dead boy .they have been spending their time to do it and it disturbed me mycroft


l agree with that statement

thx

but l am not the one who needs to keep away from this forum

l am not addicted

:lol:
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Okay, darling. I tried...but I'm not going to get drawn into your idiotic ideological misrepresentation of my words. I'm glad you agree with that one statement. It would be nice if you put it into practice.

btw, I never made any suggestion that anyone should keep away from this forum or that anyone is addicted. You must be misunderstanding what I say, though I don't see how that can be done. I suspect that is more of your deliberate twisting of words that you have been doing.

If that is what you are doing, all I have to say is...I am disappointed in you, darling.
 
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