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    re: Black Man Shoots White Teen, Jury says Self Defense. And Nobody Cares [W:86]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wehrwolfen View Post
    By Tim McNabb
    18 July, 2013

    Huh. Roderick Scott went out of his house to confront a trio of punks breaking into cars in his Greece, New York neighborhood. Scott’s story was that he fired two rounds at one of them when the young man charged him after being told to freeze and wait for the cops. So, we largely have an inverse image of the incident in which Trayvon Martin perished, complete with the kinfolk weeping thusly . . .
    “The message is that we can all go out and get guns and feel anybody that we feel is threatening us and lie about the fact,” said Jim Cervini, Christopher’s father. “My son never threatened anybody. He was a gentle child, his nature was gentle, he was a good person and he was never, ever arrested for anything, and has never been in trouble. He was 16 years and four months old, and he was slaughtered.”
    Alas, for the future value of the Christopher Cervini trademark and subsequent merchandise sales, young Chris didn’t really look like the son of anyone famous or influential. If they’d had one.
    How heavily did stories of gangs of rednecks beating the life out of a black man hang upon the mind of Mr. Scott in the split second before he pulled the trigger? Who cares?
    The jury clearly believed that Scott was in fear for his life when he defended himself, and all the second-guessing and carping about him being a wannabe cop went either unmentioned, or unheeded. Absent more information that the state, with all its resources, was not able to cobble together a case to the satisfaction of the jury, I believe that Cervini’s death is one of the possible outcomes of a young man being out screwing around when he shouldn’t have been.
    When I was growing up, that’s what I was told. Run with a bad crowd, bad things can happen. Act a certain way, dress a certain way, mouth off to the wrong person, and bad things can and do happen.
    Neither President Obama nor Attorney General Eric Holder were not available for comment.


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    We also note that neither Al Sharpton nor Jesse Jackson were available to comment.
    You posted a story about this last night, why the new thread?

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/zimmer...ter-black.html (What if Trayvon Had Been White, and the Shooter Black?)

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    re: Black Man Shoots White Teen, Jury says Self Defense. And Nobody Cares [W:86]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's a cop ouy
    a cop out to what? you know what i think is a cop-out? believing that any and all people who commit crime are beyond fixing and it is a lost cause to prevent crime by eliminating the causes of what creates the desire to become criminals. Prisons are not the ultimate solution and we should be trying to keep people out of prison.

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    re: Black Man Shoots White Teen, Jury says Self Defense. And Nobody Cares [W:86]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wehrwolfen View Post
    By Tim McNabb
    18 July, 2013

    Huh. Roderick Scott went out of his house to confront a trio of punks breaking into cars in his Greece, New York neighborhood. Scott’s story was that he fired two rounds at one of them when the young man charged him after being told to freeze and wait for the cops. So, we largely have an inverse image of the incident in which Trayvon Martin perished, complete with the kinfolk weeping thusly . . .
    “The message is that we can all go out and get guns and feel anybody that we feel is threatening us and lie about the fact,” said Jim Cervini, Christopher’s father. “My son never threatened anybody. He was a gentle child, his nature was gentle, he was a good person and he was never, ever arrested for anything, and has never been in trouble. He was 16 years and four months old, and he was slaughtered.”
    Alas, for the future value of the Christopher Cervini trademark and subsequent merchandise sales, young Chris didn’t really look like the son of anyone famous or influential. If they’d had one.
    How heavily did stories of gangs of rednecks beating the life out of a black man hang upon the mind of Mr. Scott in the split second before he pulled the trigger? Who cares?
    The jury clearly believed that Scott was in fear for his life when he defended himself, and all the second-guessing and carping about him being a wannabe cop went either unmentioned, or unheeded. Absent more information that the state, with all its resources, was not able to cobble together a case to the satisfaction of the jury, I believe that Cervini’s death is one of the possible outcomes of a young man being out screwing around when he shouldn’t have been.
    When I was growing up, that’s what I was told. Run with a bad crowd, bad things can happen. Act a certain way, dress a certain way, mouth off to the wrong person, and bad things can and do happen.
    Neither President Obama nor Attorney General Eric Holder were not available for comment.


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    Black Man Shoots White Teen, Jury says Self Defense. And Nobody Cares | The Truth About GunsThe Truth About Guns

    We also note that neither Al Sharpton nor Jesse Jackson were available to comment.

    If the teen actually "charged" the man holding a gun on him (as was reported). Then i believe we have a valid candidate for this years Darwin Awards.
    Last edited by pragmatic; 07-19-13 at 12:22 PM.

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    re: Black Man Shoots White Teen, Jury says Self Defense. And Nobody Cares [W:86]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    This is what happens when we don't let Darwinism take its course
    social dawinism FTW. thoughout most of history "natural selection" has eliminated the weak, sick, lame and unfit. by creating a system where no one is allowed to suffer due to their own poor decision making skills, we have eliminated one of nature's great checks and balances.
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    re: Black Man Shoots White Teen, Jury says Self Defense. And Nobody Cares [W:86]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    With the number of people shooting other people in the United States every day its not really fesible to run news coverage, especially on the Martin/Zimmerman level, on every single one.
    true.
    yet here is a thread about a black shooting a white and the TM crowd is silent.

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    re: Black Man Shoots White Teen, Jury says Self Defense. And Nobody Cares [W:86]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    So on the one hand we have a self appointed vigilante following a kid who is just walking through a neighborhood vs a man confronting THREE kids visibly breaking the law out side his own home.

    There is a difference.
    I reject your description of the GZ case. Not surprising you use vigilante.
    Are all NW or concerned citizens vigilantes in your view?

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    Black Man Shoots White Teen, Jury says Self Defense. And Nobody Cares

    New York is castle doctrine state and NYC prosecutors aren't shy about prosecuting people who claim self defense. One of the CNN talking heads is a former NYC Prosecutor and his on air comment of "in NY bring a gun to a knife fight and you will go to jail" was not in any way hyperbole,

    Granted this didn't happen in the city - Greece is way upstate near Rochester - but for the man to be acquitted there really must have been no case against him.

    As a side note the one reason I can see for justifying stand your ground laws is that I find it manifestly unfair - and abusive - that a homeowner can in the course of defending himself and his family be driven to financial ruin justifying his actions in court.
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    re: Black Man Shoots White Teen, Jury says Self Defense. And Nobody Cares [W:86]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    New York is caste doctrine state and NYC prosecutors aren't shy about prosecuting people who claim self defense. One of the CNN talking is a former NYC Prosecutor and his on air comment of "in NY bring a gun to a knife fight and you will go to jail" was not in any way hyperbole,

    Granted this didn't happen in the city - Greece is way upstate near Rochester - but for the man to be acquitted there really must have been no case against him.

    As a side note the one reason I can see for justifying stand your ground laws is that I find it manifestly unfair - and abusive - that a homeowner can in the course of defending himself and his family be driven to financial ruin justifying his actions in court.
    Well, this did happen well before the SAFE act.

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    re: Black Man Shoots White Teen, Jury says Self Defense. And Nobody Cares [W:86]

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I reject your description of the GZ case. Not surprising you use vigilante.
    Are all NW or concerned citizens vigilantes in your view?
    I don't know about notquiteright ...... but I know for certain that Black Racists and the Black Racist Enabling DEM Lib/Gay turds would view a concerned citizen volunteering his own time to improve the neighborhood (maybe a bit more careful in following police instructions)..... as not only a VIGILANTE .....but a "creepy ass cracka"/MONSTAH (ebonics) out to slay innocent black "children".

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    re: Black Man Shoots White Teen, Jury says Self Defense. And Nobody Cares [W:86]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Nothing forces them to take on a life of crime, except the concious decision to do so. What are we going to do, cover criminals under the Americans With Disabilities Act?
    Yep.....let's improve Affirmative Action further by awarding criminals, especially the black ones, with monthly stipends until they're cured. Or, give them Blue Chip stamps for groceries, at least.

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