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Was the prosecution of Zimmerman politically motivated from the White House ?

The police chief was suspended, because he wouldn't press charges; the original DA was taken off the case, because he wouldn't press charges and the governor selected a special prosecutor; DOJ sponsored anti-Zimmerman protests.

I guess you're right. Politics had nothing to do with it.
The original DA (Wolfinger) requested the Special Prosecutor.
 
"Judicial Watch, Inc. on April 24, 2012 launched an investigation into the Trayvon Martin case based on reports that the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) had sent a secret team of “peacekeepers” to Sanflord, Florida, where Martin was shot on February 26, 2012 after wandering in a gated community after dark...

While the officials are tasked with preventing racial violence, it appears that in carrying out their duties, they have provided significant assistance to those protesting the killing of Martin, who black, by George Zimmerman, who is half white and half Hispanic."< -> Little-Known DOJ Cell Watches Trayvon Martin Protests | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier

No, they provided no assistance to those protesting the case, they mediated in an attempt to prevent violence. That's what they do. And it's a very good idea, in my opinion. Part of the government's job is to maintain peace. When it is done with tanks, you support it, but when it's done with words and mediation, you oppose? Here's a link evaluating the truth of your sources.

Not surprisingly, the allegations you cite are false. And White House Dossier is complete trash. When will people stop trusting garbage like that?
 
No, they provided no assistance to those protesting the case, they mediated in an attempt to prevent violence. That's what they do. And it's a very good idea, in my opinion. Part of the government's job is to maintain peace. When it is done with tanks, you support it, but when it's done with words and mediation, you oppose? Here's a link evaluating the truth of your sources.

Not surprisingly, the allegations you cite are false. And White House Dossier is complete trash. When will people stop trusting garbage like that?

It doesn't matter what Politifact has to say or the Obama White House, the Obama White House got involved with in something that only has to do with the state of Florida. It was none of Obama's business.

Besides, what credibility does the Obama White House have ? It was all about a You Tube video.
You can't believe any thing that comes from the Obama administration.

If the black community can't behave without Barack Obama holding their hands, we have serious problems in America.

Obama's so called "peacemakers" are no more than community organizer. Agitate but keep them from turning to violence for now. It's right out of Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals."

The bigger question should be, why hasn't Obama's DOJ filed charges against the New Black Panthers who put out a death contract on George Zimmerman ?

Why hasn't Obama's DOJ gone after the race baiting hate mongering agitators like Al Sharpton, Spike Lee, the Congressional Black Caucus and of course, MSNBC ?

Why hasn't Obama's FCC revoked the broadcasting license of NBC, MSNBC and the radio stations that the Black Panthers used to announce their reward for who ever kills George Zimmerman ?

Do you see a problem ?
 
Why hasn't Obama's DOJ gone after the race baiting hate mongering agitators like Al Sharpton, Spike Lee, the Congressional Black Caucus and of course, MSNBC ?

Why hasn't Obama's FCC revoked the broadcasting license of NBC, MSNBC and the radio stations that the Black Panthers used to announce their reward for who ever kills George Zimmerman ?

Do you see a problem ?

Why would anybody's broadcasting license be revoked because they reported a story that involved death threats? Do you know who probably gave that story more air time than anybody? Fox News, obviously. Should their license be revoked? It's called the freedom of the press. There's a syndicated radio show on the conservative station here every Sunday that talks about gun rights. They get calls every week with people threatening to start killing government officials, to urge Americans to violently rebel and take over the White House, etc. Are you calling for them to be punished? Or is your outrage really that selective?

Again, the White House didn't organize protests. If anything, they were a calming force in the matter, as has been reported independently. You want them to go after people who make death threats? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID. They went in with agents specially trained in the matter to prevent violence or out of control protests. You're complaining about something which was done to accomplish exactly what you're complaining they didn't do. Have you any understanding of how blind your outrage is?
 
Why would anybody's broadcasting license be revoked because they reported a story that involved death threats? Do you know who probably gave that story more air time than anybody? Fox News, obviously.

You're completely wrong about Fox News, they gave the Zimmerman/Martin incident very little coverage in the beginning. If you wanted to hear about Trayvon and Martin, you didn't go to Fox News. Who was giving it the most coverage was MSNBC then CNN and then NBC, ABC and CBS. Fox News spent less time on coverage than all of the other MSM outlets.

Now Fox News Latino gave it more coverage than it's parent owner Fox News because George Zimmerman wasn't white but Hispanic.


New Black Panther Party Offers $10,000 Bounty for George Zimmerman

Read more: New Black Panther Party Offers $10,000 Bounty for George Zimmerman | Fox News Latino

>"Malik Zulu Shabazz, The National Chairman of the New Black Panther Party appeared on the syndicated radio program 'The Muslim Street' Sunday night to discuss The New Black Panthers $10,000 reward for George Zimmerman capture and the Panthers future plans for action in the Trayvon Martin case."<
New Black Panthers Chief: God Told Us To Bounty Zimmerman


Lets not forget Obama's accosiation with the Black Panthers and Obama's Black Panther "Security" patrols stationed at polling places back in November of 2008.
 
You're completely wrong about Fox News, they gave the Zimmerman/Martin incident very little coverage in the beginning. If you wanted to hear about Trayvon and Martin, you didn't go to Fox News. Who was giving it the most coverage was MSNBC then CNN and then NBC, ABC and CBS. Fox News spent less time on coverage than all of the other MSM outlets.

Now Fox News Latino gave it more coverage than it's parent owner Fox News because George Zimmerman wasn't white but Hispanic.

When I said "that story" I meant the one about the New Black Panthers - you know, the one that you said media outlets should have their licenses revoked for covering? And then you proved my point by linking to the Fox News article.
 
Well......going down this route...Lead Homicide Detective Serino wanted Zimmerman charged with manslaughter from the very beginning, he didn't believe Zimmerman's story. Are you saying the decision not to charge was political?

The police chief was suspended, because he wouldn't press charges; the original DA was taken off the case, because he wouldn't press charges and the governor selected a special prosecutor; DOJ sponsored anti-Zimmerman protests.

I guess you're right. Politics had nothing to do with it.

Didn't say that. I am saying it is possible that the politics was from very early in the investigation.
 
Didn't say that. I am saying it is possible that the politics was from very early in the investigation.

That may have been what you meant, but it's not what you said.
 
YES. From the Oval Office and the man that works in it. It is my gut instinct, and logic.
 
It's not a conspiracy theory if the events bear it out to be the case...Then it is just conspiracy. Look, the state had no interest in bringing this case until Al (not so) Sharpton, and (super) Jessie Jackson got into the mix to stir up the hornets nest. Then in true speaking with foot in mouth, Obama just had to get out there to talk about how TM would resemble a son of his if he had one....Clearly a political signal, just like the "police acted stupidly" comment when a professor friend of his got into a scrape with the law, and Obama felt it was his job to bring the office of the Presidency to bear on that local issue as well...

But, Once Obama made his comment, then the search was on for Special Prosecutor, and having the State second guess the decision to hastily bring charges....I mean, if murder would have been the charge, what was the rush? They didn't have any statute of limitations to get past? They could have took their time and put together a solid case if that is what they thought was the deal....But they didn't...It is clear that they rushed, put together a weak case. then when it all fell apart, now they are in front of a jury embarrassing themselves, yelling, hypothesizing, and flailing around with the same pure crap we hear on the internet...:roll: Come on!

Tell me when you have ever seen a prosecution exhibit board in a closing argument where the words "What if?" appear as the header? It is laughable, if it weren't so damned sad.

Why don't you READ a transcript of Obma's remarks in context
 
Well......going down this route...Lead Homicide Detective Serino wanted Zimmerman charged with manslaughter from the very beginning, he didn't believe Zimmerman's story. Are you saying the decision not to charge was political?

That may have been what you meant, but it's not what you said.

Can you show me where I said it? I indicated if we were to go down that route, it probably started with Serino early in the investigation.

But if you find where I said it was not political, let me know.
 
I've been asking that ever since the Black Panthers put a contract out on George Zimmerman and the Obama's DOJ didn't file charges against the Black Panthers. The Black Panthers comitt a felony and aren't prosecuted ? What are the Black Panthers connection to Obama ?

Starting to look like that the Obama White House was heavily involved in seeing that Zimmerman was prosecuted when they knew that Trayvon Martin was just your typical urban street thug and Zimmerman was a law abiding citizen who protected his life under the laws of Florida.

>"Judicial Watch, Inc. on April 24, 2012 launched an investigation into the Trayvon Martin case based on reports that the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) had sent a secret team of “peacekeepers” to Sanflord, Florida, where Martin was shot on February 26, 2012 after wandering in a gated community after dark. George Zimmerman, a resident of the community and its neighborhood watch captain, is currently on trial for Martin’s death though he maintains he acted in self-defense."< It's all here -> Little-Known DOJ Cell Watches Trayvon Martin Protests | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier

>"A largely unknown group of Justice Department officials has inserted itself into the local Florida protest movement surrounding the killing of Trayvon Martin, assisting the protestors and attending their meetings and rallies.

While the officials are tasked with preventing racial violence, it appears that in carrying out their duties, they have provided significant assistance to those protesting the killing of Martin, who black, by George Zimmerman, who is half white and half Hispanic."< -> Little-Known DOJ Cell Watches Trayvon Martin Protests | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier

Just when we thought this administration could go no lower – we find out they have been actively interfering with a Florida criminal case. Holder ordered Thomas Battles Regional Director of the DOJ/CRS Division (Community Relations Service) not to calm the Sanford community but to incite unrest.
 
Just when we thought this administration could go no lower – we find out they have been actively interfering with a Florida criminal case. Holder ordered Thomas Battles Regional Director of the DOJ/CRS Division (Community Relations Service) not to calm the Sanford community but to incite unrest.

It's all there in Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals." The handbook for all community and union organizers. It's the handbook for all of the executive branches of government under the Obama administration.

The Obama administration has already hit rock bottom, will they go deeper than bedrock and violate Zimmerman.s Constitutional Rights with double jeopardy ? Seems to be the totalitarian socialist thing to do.
 
Perhaps. But in a situation where there is some doubt surrounding a claim of self-defense when using deadly force, a trial to determine if self-defense was the case is not unreasonable.

Regardless of her performance at trial, at least one witness claimed the victim was not the aggressor. When this is combined with other testimony expressing confusion about what was witnessed (or heard); going through a trial process would hopefully resolve the issue.

Do you honestly believe that if Trayvon Martin were white and Zimmerman black this racial farce would have occurred? Please note that the MSM and the Political Left buried the Christian/Newsome murders and the trials of the perpetrators. BTW do you know what I'm referring to when I indicate the Christian/Newsome murders?
 
Do you honestly believe that if Trayvon Martin were white and Zimmerman black this racial farce would have occurred?

As in, a black man killed a white teen? It's possible. Something similar happened with OJ Simpson. White people were up in arms about a black man killing a white woman and her white freind. I'm sure if we could look at all the incidents in prior legal history where a black man killed a white teen we could find more examples.

Still, I'd admit it is less likely, because most whites appear to assume blacks are more inclined to criminal behavior, and see such acts as "business as usual." They have full confidence the criminal justice system will work it out. That seems to be the case when minorities go to trial.

[Please note that the MSM and the Political Left buried the Christian/Newsome murders and the trials of the perpetrators. BTW do you know what I'm referring to when I indicate the Christian/Newsome murders?

Honestly, no it does not bring up any recollections.

Then again, I have been repeatedly stating that I seldom follow news coverage of criminal cases. I leave the determinations up to each court of law reviewing the evidence.

I'm not above being alerted by any liberty rights groups I belong to, and focusing on "case histories" where an innocent defendant might have been convicted. But my bias is that our crimnal justice system is overly harsh. That we have too many unnecessary laws criminalizing personal behaviors that cause no direct harm, or that we fail to realize how much power the State has, and how little power a defendant has, in criminal trials. So I make some small effort to keep informed in that regard.
 
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As in, a black man killed a white teen? It's possible. Something similar happened with OJ Simpson. White people were up in arms about a black man killing a white woman and her white freind. I'm sure if we could look at all the incidents in prior legal history where a black man killed a white teen we could find more examples.

Still, I'd admit it is less likely, because most whites appear to assume blacks are more inclined to criminal behavior, and see such acts as "business as usual." They have full confidence the criminal justice system will work it out. That seems to be the case when minorities go to trial.



Honestly, no it does not bring up any recollections.

Then again, I have been repeatedly stating that I seldom follow news coverage of criminal cases. I leave the determinations up to each court of law reviewing the evidence.

I'm not above being alerted by any liberty rights groups I belong to, and focusing on "case histories" where an innocent defendant might have been convicted. But my bias is that our crimnal justice system is overly harsh. That we have too many unnecessary laws criminalizing personal behaviors that cause no direct harm, or that we fail to realize how much power the State has, and how little power a defendant has, in criminal trials. So I make some small effort to keep informed in that regard.

Really? Is that why the MSM buried the killings, and it was kept a local item, or why the Feds refused to prosecute them for hate crimes? Have you read the description of what the victims were subjected too? To me it would appear that the multiple rapes and mutilation of the two were akin to the torture some Mid Easterners do to their victims. But then again they we "Creepy Ass Crackers', so I guess they didn't count as much as one Trayvon Martin trying to make his bones on another "Creepy Ass Cracker".
 
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Really? Is that why the MSM buried the killings, and why the Feds refused to prosecute them for hate crimes? Have you read the description of what the victims were subjected too? To me it would appear that the multiple rapes and mutilation of the two were akin to the torture some Mid Easterners do to their victims. But then again they we "Creepy Ass Crackers', so I guess they didn't count as much as one Trayvon Martin trying to make his bones on another "Creepy Ass Cracker".

Dude, I have no idea what you are talking about. I still don't know anything about the original "newcome/whatsis" case you mentioned. I didn't look it up, and I thought I explained my position about not caring and letting courts decide.
 
Dude, I have no idea what you are talking about. I still don't know anything about the original "newcome/whatsis" case you mentioned. I didn't look it up, and I thought I explained my position about not caring and letting courts decide.

Obviously you live in a Progressive sanitized bubble. All you had to do was one follow the story line, or Google Christian/Newsome murders. You would have received this following results:

Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - …

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of...Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom
Channon Gail Christian, 21, and Hugh Christopher Newsom, Jr., 23, were a couple from Knoxville, Tennessee. They were raped, tortured, and murdered after being ...
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I guess we can all understand that you as the representative of the uninformed Progressive Liberal public were ever informed. The victims were white and the perpetrators black.
In the case of Martin/Zimmerman it is Black versus Brown, certainly not Black versus White. Now if you prefer to continue lynching Zimmerman, remember Zimmerman's grandfather (may he rest in peace) was a Hispanic Black man. So who are you and the other Progressives really trying to lynch here? It's not as the New York Times has described Zimmerman as a "White Hispanic".
 
Obviously you live in a Progressive sanitized bubble. All you had to do was one follow the story line, or Google Christian/Newsome murders. You would have received this following results:

Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - …

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of...Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom
Channon Gail Christian, 21, and Hugh Christopher Newsom, Jr., 23, were a couple from Knoxville, Tennessee. They were raped, tortured, and murdered after being ...
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I guess we can all understand that you as the representative of the uninformed Progressive Liberal public were ever informed. The victims were white and the perpetrators black.
In the case of Martin/Zimmerman it is Black versus Brown, certainly not Black versus White. Now if you prefer to continue lynching Zimmerman, remember Zimmerman's grandfather (may he rest in peace) was a Hispanic Black man. So who are you and the other Progressives really trying to lynch here? It's not as the New York Times has described Zimmerman as a "White Hispanic".

Talk about uninformed. I have never "lynched" Zimmerman. In fact, I did not follow his case either. When I heard the final verdict in his case I indicated that I was content with it. Most of my participation in "Zimmerman threads" has been to provide general information concerning questions of the legal process, with the caveat that I do not practice law in Florida. I have also stated repeatedly in various threads that if a jury finds a defendant "not guilty," then I personally give the him the benefit of the doubt and presume his innocence.

All I HAVE to do is follow my own ideals about legal "Dramas." Which I have clearly stated as "it's none of my business, let each court decide."
 
Talk about uninformed. I have never "lynched" Zimmerman. In fact, I did not follow his case either. When I heard the final verdict in his case I indicated that I was content with it. Most of my participation in "Zimmerman threads" has been to provide general information concerning questions of the legal process, with the caveat that I do not practice law in Florida. I have also stated repeatedly in various threads that if a jury finds a defendant "not guilty," then I personally give the him the benefit of the doubt and presume his innocence.

All I HAVE to do is follow my own ideals about legal "Dramas." Which I have clearly stated as "it's none of my business, let each court decide."

I was discuss the media bias and news that was with held be the MSM in the Christian/Newsom murders. Your response made it appear that you never heard or read about their heinous abductions, torture, mutilations and finally murder. Would you agree then that the verdict was based upon the evidence made available to the defense, despite MSM 's lying bias and the low handed sand bagging tactics of the prosecution?
 
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I was discuss the media bias and news that was with held be the MSM in the Christian/Newsom murders. Your response made it appear that you never heard or read about their heinous abductions, torture, mutilations and finally murder. Would you agree then that the verdict was based upon the evidence made available to the defense, despite MSM 's lying bias and the low handed sand bagging tactics of the prosecution?

The best answer I can give is to refer you to my response in the thread "Guilty but not Innocent WTF [W:64]." From my post #97

Forgive me for saying this but, THAT is a crock of ****!

The JURY is presented with FACTS under clearly defined rules of evidence.

Anyone else who had "followed this closely" has been fed commentary, opinion, speculation, accusation, hearsay, and a great deal of emotional B/S.

A jury is instructed to ignore all this, talk to no one about the case, and in highly emotional trials is often sequestered to prevent bias from entering into their decision making process. I understand Zimmerman’s jury was so sequestered.

The court of public opinion is simply the peanut gallery...and their opinions are worthless.
 
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