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Is Manslaughter Likely for Zimmerman?

Okay, so Martin knocks him to the ground, pins him to the ground, punches him repeatedly.......................... and GZ isn't allowed to defend himself?

Yes, but not kill someone. Why didn't Z shoot TM in the shoulder?
 
Yes, but not kill someone. Why didn't Z shoot TM in the shoulder?

You can kill someone if you feel that they are causing you great harm. That's self-defense.
 
If he did go for his gun, Martin had every right to jump him and defend himself. The question is..... when is GZ allowed to defend himself?

You're always allowed to defend yourself, your not always allowed to kill someone.
 
You can kill someone if you feel that they are causing you great harm. That's self-defense.

Oh please he had a nose bleed. It was a tussle at the playground until Z brought the gun into it.
 
You're always allowed to defend yourself, your not always allowed to kill someone.

Except.....you are. That's why women who shoot their abusive husbands who are beating them up aren't convicted of murder.
 
Oh please he had a nose bleed. It was a tussle at the playground until Z brought the gun into it.

See, this is why you actually need to watch the whole trial, not just 2-3 days and pretend like you know it all. :)
 
See, this is why you actually need to watch the whole trial, not just 2-3 days and pretend like you know it all. :)

I watched the medical examiner he had minor injuries. Didn't even have to go to the hospital. If Z hadn't shot him worst case this would have been some guy who lost a fight and no one would have even heard of Zimmerman or Martin.
 
He had the right to defend himself in any way if he feared great bodily harm. That's the law.

"Reasonably fear"...why do Z supporters always leave THAT part out?
 
Except.....you are. That's why women who shoot their abusive husbands who are beating them up aren't convicted of murder.

Z and TM were married? Sometimes women get a pas in that situation because they are not as physically strong as the husband and therefore cannot defend themselves with their fists.
 
Z and TM were married? Sometimes women get a pas in that situation because they are not as physically strong as the husband and therefore cannot defend themselves with their fists.

You mean like how Zimmerman was a tubby guy who couldn't even punch and Trayvon was a fighter?
 
"Reasonably fear"...why do Z supporters always leave THAT part out?

You always IGNORE this, please answer. Let's have an experiment. You are outside in the dark on a rainy night. We put you into a physical struggle with someone who breaks your nose. Now you are on the ground getting an "MMA style ground and pound". We make sure your attacker, in order to as close to this case as possible, your EXTERNAL head injuries are not "medically significant". You can tell us when you "REASONABLY" fear for you life.

Deal?

BTW, I've NEVER left out "REASONABLE", search my posts for proof.

Caught in yet ANOTHER lie spanky. Are you credible as you claim GZ is not?
 
Yes, but not kill someone. Why didn't Z shoot TM in the shoulder?

You can kill someone if you feel that they are causing you great harm. That's self-defense.

The intent is never to kill....it is to stop, the threat

spanky - You are going to loose your ass in criminal and civil court when you explain to the jury why you *shot to wound* the attacker.

Shooting to wound implies you were not *in fear for your life*

Fear for your life is the most critical piece of the whole justifiable use of deadly force.
 
You always IGNORE this, please answer. Let's have an experiment. You are outside in the dark on a rainy night. We put you into a physical struggle with someone who breaks your nose. Now you are on the ground getting an "MMA style ground and pound". We make sure your attacker, in order to as close to this case as possible, your EXTERNAL head injuries are not "medically significant". You can tell us when you "REASONABLY" fear for you life.

Deal?

BTW, I've NEVER left out "REASONABLE", search my posts for proof.

Caught in yet ANOTHER lie spanky. Are you credible as you claim GZ is not?

Well, I'm ignoring your analogies all based on Z's statements.
 
Well, I'm ignoring your analogies all based on Z's statements.

You're ignoring fact. You've demonstrated this time and time again. You've been proven to be wrong time and time again. Thanks for your demonstration. It is no longer worthwhile to exchange with you.
 
I could see them convicting him of manslaughter because he got out of his car and followed Trayvon. I still think it's iffy though, since GZ said he stopped following Trayvon and started walking back to his car when he was jumped. You just never know.

I won't be surprised if he's convicted of manslaughter. I will be surprised if he gets more than 10 years for it.

I came at this from this exact angle and was attacked by people saying nope he will be acquitted for sure.
 
You mean like how Zimmerman was a tubby guy who couldn't even punch and Trayvon was a fighter?

We don't have real evidence M was a "fighter", in the way you state.

Playin around at mma like we used to play around at being bruce lee.

And what there is sounds like "organized" "fights" with referees. Which speaks to a sense of fair play. An understanding and acceptance of rules.

NOT street fighting/assault.

And Z would have been in pretty good shape.

You don't lose 50-80 pounds in less than a year without working out HARD.

(Or seriously abusing your Adderall)
 
We don't have real evidence M was a "fighter", in the way you state.

Playin around at mma like we used to play around at being bruce lee.

And what there is sounds like "organized" "fights" with referees. Which speaks to a sense of fair play. An understanding and acceptance of rules.

NOT street fighting/assault.

And Z would have been in pretty good shape.

You don't lose 50-80 pounds in less than a year without working out HARD.

(Or seriously abusing your Adderall)

Of course the EVIDENCE/FACTS of the case prove beyond a reasonable doubt GZ was a better fighter than TM. I mean did you see the abrasion on TM's knuckle!!! Had the "fight" gone on a single milisecond longer, TM would have thrown in the towel. <eyeroll>
 
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