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Day 10 testimony (Monday 7/8)

MaggieD said:
At any rate, we're the only ones talking about his being in the courtroom inappropriately as a Google search turns up nothing I can find.
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Did you fail to read that which came before?
It clearly stated they were talking about it over at Blatherman, and linked to it.
:doh
 
mak2 said:
OH stop it, I have smoked more pot than you ever seen. I have never, not once, seen pot make anyone aggressive, even if you steal their twinkie. Where have you seen these violent pot smokers? Were they doing somehting besides pot?

MARIJUANA: Uses, Side Effects, Interactions and Warnings - WebMD
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i seriously doubt that bro..........as far as where?....umm, parties, concerts, bars, peoples houses, school, ....you know, places where potheads hang out fights occcasionaly break out too....were they doing something else? sometimes but not always..........just because you smoke a joint doesnt mean you are uncapable of getting pissed off and reacting, also some people get high and look for trouble, there's just people like that, period.......i recall a couple instances where a what seemed to be a harmless "lets go get high" moment turned into forcilble rape.........pot isnt always getting the giggles and muchies then falling asleep
 
mak2 said:
OH stop it, I have smoked more pot than you ever seen. I have never, not once, seen pot make anyone aggressive, even if you steal their twinkie. Where have you seen these violent pot smokers? Were they doing somehting besides pot?

MARIJUANA: Uses, Side Effects, Interactions and Warnings - WebMD
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I looked around a bit and its the usual. Anti-drug sites say yes. Pro pot sites say no. "Neutral" sites generally say no, and point to failure to exclude alcohol or underlying psych issues as the reason anti-pot sites come to the conclusions they do.

Some indications of irritability due to "withdrawal", but M wouldn't have been in withdrawal, having smoked earlier in the day. Days not hours for withdrawal.
 
Dolphin2424 ‏@Dolphin2424 9m

Ha- Ha channel 9 news in Fla just said there bringing up photos of Donnelly being in court be4 he testified..was a big no no....
 
Paperview said:
Dolphin2424 ‏@Dolphin2424 9m

Ha- Ha channel 9 news in Fla just said there bringing up photos of Donnelly being in court be4 he testified..was a big no no....
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:lamo

And again.
Show he knew he was not supposed to be in the courtroom.
 
Excon said:
:lamo

And again.
Show he knew he was not supposed to be in the courtroom.
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I think what he's saying is that the news station should never have published that photo.
 
MaggieD said:
I think what he's saying is that the news station should never have published that photo.
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Is that what you think?

Here is what I think.
I think he keeps avoiding the question that was asked.
 
MaggieD said:
I think what he's saying is that the news station should never have published that photo.
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No, it was a big no no for Donnelly to be in the courtroom.

He was a witness, and sat in the Friends & Family section. He had to have rec'd approval for that. Atty's are responsible for their witnesses.

He violated the Sequestration Rule.
 
Paperview said:
No, it was a big no no for Donnelly to be in the courtroom.

He was a witness, and sat in the Friends & Family section. He had to have rec'd approval for that. Atty's are responsible for their witnesses.

He violated the Sequestration Rule.
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@ Excon -- Maggie's wrong again. ;)

That's old news, Paperview.

It raises a question in MY mind, however. Why does the court not check ID's to make sure this doesn't happen? Why on earth should an attorney (with his back to the courtroom) be responsible for whether or not one of his witnesses has mistakenly come to court?

This isn't a smoking gun, Paperview. Even if they disallow his testimony, the jury heard it. Bells can't be unrung.
 
spanky said:
The trial is on the 95 yard line...are we really discussing Crump?
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spanky said:
I luv ya Mags but when you say you've been following the incident from the beginning but don't know who Crump is, doesn't pass the smell test.
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spanky said:
Seriously?

Again, seriously? Does Dee Dee ring a bell?

I'm done with these Z/T threads on this site...it's like debating with 12 year olds. They think they know everything as they stick their pecker in a light socket.
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spanky said:
Fair enough EC, you get no professional courtesy from me in the future.
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Hey man why don't you relax and try to speak about the FACTS into evidence thus far. I started following this about the same time that Jackson, Sharpton, and the President chimed in. I forgot all about Crump until I saw they were having a problem getting his deposition. Now [after checking] I him and is probably the reason all the above made this a race issue after influencing family, witnesses, and hiring a publicist.

I think one of the most important witnesses for yesterday was the Army medic/PA... who stated 100% it was GZ yelling for help based on his war experiences with hearing his "brothers" screaming for help in Vietnam. Granted he was GZ's good friend/father figure. But he was still compelling for me.

OMT... what kind of "professional courtesy" do you speak of??
 
Compatibilist said:
OMT... what kind of "professional courtesy" do you speak of??
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EC = Excon
spanky said:
Excon said:
spanky said:
Excon, you and I have debated this thing for many moons, right? We've gone back and forth, it was what I would call a "fair fight". But be honest here, how seriously can you take someone who says they have been watching this thing from day one but don't know who Crump is?

I'm asking you to be honest, among two who have gone mano a mano for a long time.

Same to you Ric. Seriously...
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I have called out MaggieD on at least a couple of things regarding what she has said which goes directly to her knowledge of the case.

I did not ask for support from anyone else when I did so. You are on your own.
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Fair enough EC, you get no professional courtesy from me in the future.
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He felt he needed some kind of support to back up his perceptions in regards to another person.
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Yea, well I did it was so long ago...forcible rape? You sure you werent smoking crack or something?
fishinRod said:
i seriously doubt that bro..........as far as where?....umm, parties, concerts, bars, peoples houses, school, ....you know, places where potheads hang out fights occcasionaly break out too....were they doing something else? sometimes but not always..........just because you smoke a joint doesnt mean you are uncapable of getting pissed off and reacting, also some people get high and look for trouble, there's just people like that, period.......i recall a couple instances where a what seemed to be a harmless "lets go get high" moment turned into forcilble rape.........pot isnt always getting the giggles and muchies then falling asleep
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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV :
We don't believe defense witness John Donnelly heard the 911 call in court so there may not be a perjury question but WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer says it's the defense's responsibility to tell its witnesses they're sequestered.
 
Paperview said:
Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV :
We don't believe defense witness John Donnelly heard the 911 call in court so there may not be a perjury question but WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer says it's the defense's responsibility to tell its witnesses they're sequestered.
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And whose responsibility is it to make sure they get tackled, wrestled to the ground and thrown out if they show up anyway?
 
Paperview said:
Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV :
We don't believe defense witness John Donnelly heard the 911 call in court so there may not be a perjury question but WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer says it's the defense's responsibility to tell its witnesses they're sequestered.
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:doh
There was no perjury issue to begin with. Duh!
I provided exactly what he testified to. There was no perjury.

And again, show that he knew he could not be there.

The fact that he was not there after that supports a conclusion that he was made aware after the fact.

Stop grasping at inane bs.

Such a violation was harmless.

Especially with television coverage they can sit at home and watch.
 
mak2 said:
Yea, well I did it was so long ago...forcible rape? You sure you werent smoking crack or something?
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yea....one incident a guy who drove a school bus (high school) asked a girl if she wanted to go burn one with him, she agreed and she stayed on the bus until all the other kids got off....he parked the bus, they smoked the joint then he raped her...other incident kinda the same situation except it two guys at a house, they beat her pretty bad too before it was over...i knew one of those guys and really wasnt surprised to here it.......crack? hahaha that wasnt even thought of back in my day....it was PCP back then, i remember once at party a guy smoked some laced weed....he thought he could fly and jumped out of a second story window...now that wasnt violent itself but his landing kinda was
 
The Donnelly issue (defense witness who improperly broke sequestration) is going to be heard by Judge Nelson at 8am tomorrow morning.
 
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Holy crapinoli.

Court went on till 10PM tonight with the Judge walking out while Westicle was still blabbering on as she marched out.

What an unreal day.

Court starts at 8AM tomorrow -- and Last thing she said was about the sequestration violation I mentioned earlier today.

Heh.
 
Paperview said:
Holy crapinoli.

Court went on till 10PM tonight with the Judge walking out while Westicle was still blabbering on as she marched out.

What an unreal day.

Court starts at 8AM tomorrow -- and Last thing she said was about the sequestration violation I mentioned earlier today.

Heh.
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You mentioned?
This ain't about you.
 
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