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Would you want & trust George Zimmerman to be on neighborhood watch where you live?

Would you want & trust George Zimmerman to be on neighborhood watch where you live?

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Re: Would you want & trust George Zimmerman to be on neighborhood watch where you liv

apdst said:
What if random thug is raping you? Or beating the crap out of you and your daughter? Or beating your husband--wife?--to death with an axe handle? No John Wayne then, either?
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Nope. Because I don't live in a bad neighborhood, and chances of being raped or having the crap beat out of me are nil. If I lived in a neighborhood where that was likely to happen, I'd move. Besides, my husband is a 20+ year Army retiree, and an MP. I'm not worried about anything happening to me or my family.
 
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CanadaJohn said:
It takes a certain type of person to agree to or want to volunteer to be a neighborhood watch commander or whatever they call themselves. It's the same type of person who volunteers to be in the military or trains for the police department or fire department, etc. Not every person who has the mindset also has the skillset needed to handle the tasks.
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Not even close, bud.
 
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Superfly said:
Nope. Because I don't live in a bad neighborhood, and chances of being raped or having the crap beat out of me are nil. If I lived in a neighborhood where that was likely to happen, I'd move. Besides, my husband is a 20+ year Army retiree, and an MP. I'm not worried about anything happening to me or my family.
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But, not impossible. yes?

Your ol' man sounds like a dude that would go bustin' in, in a flash, kickin' ass...John Wayne style. Would you want your hubby to stand back and let someone get injured, raped, or killed? Or would you want him to turn blades up and charge into the fray at a gallop?

If he's half the man you make him out to be, I bet he would be John Wayne'n some mother****er's asses, before his hat hit the ground.
 
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CanadaJohn said:
It takes a certain type of person to agree to or want to volunteer to be a neighborhood watch commander or whatever they call themselves. It's the same type of person who volunteers to be in the military or trains for the police department or fire department, etc. Not every person who has the mindset also has the skillset needed to handle the tasks.

Personally, I see Zimmerman as an honest man with good intensions who got a little more than he bargained for that rainy night and bad things happened. I've seen crazed people who are no good and out to do people harm - I've even seen them as police officers on occasion, thankfully rarely. I don't see that in Zimmerman at all - in fact, he's got that deer in the headlights look more than anything else. I don't believe he's a murderer at all, but I don't necessarily know that I'd want him patroling in my neighborhood with a loaded handgun either.
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Double like, Bro!
 
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apdst said:
But, not impossible. yes?

Your ol' man sounds like a dude that would go bustin' in, in a flash, kickin' ass...John Wayne style. Would you want your hubby to stand back and let someone get injured, raped, or killed? Or would you want him to turn blades up and charge into the fray at a gallop?

If he's half the man you make him out to be, I bet he would be John Wayne'n some mother****er's asses, before his hat hit the ground.
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My husband would protect his family - not be some billy bad-ass running around like some wanna be cop, trying to take down the neighborhood kids. Zimmerman is worse than a rent-a-cop because he didn't even get paid. He wanted to be a cop, but didn't make the cut. This, to him, was the next best thing.

Besides - I don't see Martin killing anybody with a bag of Skittles.
 
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CanadaJohn said:
It takes a certain type of person to agree to or want to volunteer to be a neighborhood watch commander or whatever they call themselves. It's the same type of person who volunteers to be in the military or trains for the police department or fire department, etc. Not every person who has the mindset also has the skillset needed to handle the tasks.

Personally, I see Zimmerman as an honest man with good intensions who got a little more than he bargained for that rainy night and bad things happened. I've seen crazed people who are no good and out to do people harm - I've even seen them as police officers on occasion, thankfully rarely. I don't see that in Zimmerman at all - in fact, he's got that deer in the headlights look more than anything else. I don't believe he's a murderer at all, but I don't necessarily know that I'd want him patroling in my neighborhood with a loaded handgun either.
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Sounds about right.


I really would not want him or his mentality near my family - how do you teach your kids about stranger danger when you also have to teach them if someone follows while you are walking alone - that that is ok as well.....just talk to them and find out what they want. He followed a teen while in a car, then on foot.

I have no issues with guns in general (I am an owner, plus I come from a family of gun enthusiast - hunters and target shooters). I have GREAT issue with someone carrying a concealed loaded weapon while on prescribed or unprescribed mind altering substances .
 
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Superfly said:
Nope. Because I don't live in a bad neighborhood, and chances of being raped or having the crap beat out of me are nil. If I lived in a neighborhood where that was likely to happen, I'd move. Besides, my husband is a 20+ year Army retiree, and an MP. I'm not worried about anything happening to me or my family.
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Thats what all the snooty rich folks said in the neighborhoods I patrolled to when asked why in the **** they would leave doors unlocked and corporate bank laptops on the front seat......

"I don't live in a bad neighborhood" thinking is the worst thing you can do.
 
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Superfly said:
My husband would protect his family - not be some billy bad-ass running around like some wanna be cop, trying to take down the neighborhood kids. Zimmerman is worse than a rent-a-cop because he didn't even get paid. He wanted to be a cop, but didn't make the cut. This, to him, was the next best thing.

Besides - I don't see Martin killing anybody with a bag of Skittles.
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Here is that old "Didn't make the cut"

His credit was bad.... that has absolutely nothing to do with anything about his abilities, more to do with LIABILITY on behalf of the department since he would be more susceptible to bribes, or so the thinking goes.. (and I agree with it).
 
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I'd rather someone who would come to my rescue armed to be in better shape.
 
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Caine said:
Thats what all the snooty rich folks said in the neighborhoods I patrolled to when asked why in the **** they would leave doors unlocked and corporate bank laptops on the front seat......

"I don't live in a bad neighborhood" thinking is the worst thing you can do.
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Well what do you want me to say? I'm not a snooty rich person, but I do live in a gated neighborhood with about 30 houses. I know every single person in this neighborhood, and I'm not worried about anything happening. You can't get in here without a gate code, and if we see somebody in the neighborhood that shouldn't be here, we all go out and find out their reason for being here. We, as a community, "police" our own neighborhood, and I can promise you that if I, or any other homeowner, see Khalik or Mekhi running through the neighborhood wearing a hoodie, we're not going to chase them down with a loaded weapon.

Also, I'm not an idiot. I don't leave my doors unlocked and I don't leave anything of value in my cars, but that's just force of habit. I have a very good security system on my house, as well. I'm not worried about myself or my family, and honestly, that's all I care about.
 
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MaggieD said:
Even police departments are not responsible for the safety of residents according to the Supreme Court.
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I'm amazed at how many people don't understand this. It's common sense, really. You are responsible for your own safety, which why you don't prosecute people who defend themselves.
 
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FederalRepublic said:
I'm amazed at how many people don't understand this. It's common sense, really. You are responsible for your own safety, which why you don't prosecute people who defend themselves.
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I actually can get that George was defending himself. But he was defending himself from a situation that he created.
 
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Superfly said:
Well what do you want me to say? I'm not a snooty rich person, but I do live in a gated neighborhood with about 30 houses. I know every single person in this neighborhood, and I'm not worried about anything happening. You can't get in here without a gate code, and if we see somebody in the neighborhood that shouldn't be here, we all go out and find out their reason for being here. We, as a community, "police" our own neighborhood, and I can promise you that if I, or any other homeowner, see Khalik or Mekhi running through the neighborhood wearing a hoodie, we're not going to chase them down with a loaded weapon.

Also, I'm not an idiot. I don't leave my doors unlocked and I don't leave anything of value in my cars, but that's just force of habit. I have a very good security system on my house, as well. I'm not worried about myself or my family, and honestly, that's all I care about.
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lol

Gate codes are easily hacked and once inside, your gated community provides shelter to criminals

Gated communities....the worst place to live in
 
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Oceandan said:
I guess I missed the part where Zimmerman didn't follow the "911 operator". Of course i'm assuming you ACTUALLY meant the "NEN operator". Can you show actual fact from the case, supporting your contention??
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Whoever the (bleep!) it was who told him to stay where he was and not follow Travon Martin, that was who he should have listened to. Who gives a rip if it was a 911 operator or a "NEN operator"? What is NEN supposed to stand for, anyway?
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Whoever the (bleep!) it was who told him to stay where he was and not follow Travon Martin, that was who he should have listened to. Who gives a rip if it was a 911 operator or a "NEN operator"? What is NEN supposed to stand for, anyway?
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Non-emergency number.

And he said, "We don't need you to do that", not "Do NOT follow him!"
 
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ric27 said:
lol

Gate codes are easily hacked and once inside, your gated community provides shelter to criminals

Gated communities....the worst place to live in
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If you say so. I don't have some renegade asshole running around my neighborhood, killing black kids for doing nothing more than packing a can of fruit punch.
 
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Josie said:
Non-emergency number.

And he said, "We don't need you to do that", not "Do NOT follow him!"
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"We don't need you to do that", the word "that" refers to, what again?

following Trevon?
picking his nose?
what?
 
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Dittohead not! said:
"We don't need you to do that", the word "that" refers to, what again?

following Trevon?
picking his nose?
what?
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He said, "We don't need you to do that" when GZ said he was following him. GZ said, "Okay". There is no evidence that he continued to follow him. He was walking toward his car when the fight started.
 
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Josie said:
He said, "We don't need you to do that" when GZ said he was following him. GZ said, "Okay". There is no evidence that he continued to follow him. He was walking toward his car when the fight started.
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So, Travon came after him and grabbed him while he was on the way to his car?

If that's what comes out in the trial, then self defense should be a slam dunk.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
So, Travon came after him and grabbed him while he was on the way to his car?

If that's what comes out in the trial, then self defense should be a slam dunk.
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That's what GZ's statement said. No one saw it happen.
 
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Josie said:
He said, "We don't need you to do that" when GZ said he was following him. GZ said, "Okay". There is no evidence that he continued to follow him. He was walking toward his car when the fight started.
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I actually heard/read/watched/something that, in the call Zimmerman made to NEN, the indicator sound from the key in the ignition could be heard. Now I'm not sure, as there is a lot of misinformation surrounding this trial. I'll see if I can find where I read/heard it. Point is, though, that if he was still in his car, and was told, "We don't want you to do that," then he should have just closed the door and left.
 
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Superfly said:
I actually heard/read/watched/something that, in the call Zimmerman made to NEN, the indicator sound from the key in the ignition could be heard. Now I'm not sure, as there is a lot of misinformation surrounding this trial. I'll see if I can find where I read/heard it. Point is, though, that if he was still in his car, and was told, "We don't want you to do that," then he should have just closed the door and left.
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Hmmm...I need to listen again.
 
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Superfly said:
I actually heard/read/watched/something that, in the call Zimmerman made to NEN, the indicator sound from the key in the ignition could be heard. Now I'm not sure, as there is a lot of misinformation surrounding this trial. I'll see if I can find where I read/heard it. Point is, though, that if he was still in his car, and was told, "We don't want you to do that," then he should have just closed the door and left.
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I will add this - the time stamp says that there are 13 minutes after the indicator sound goes off before Zimmerman is told not to follow Martin. 13 minutes is plenty of time to go after someone. So I was wrong. I apologize.
 
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Josie said:
Hmmm...I need to listen again.
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No, don't. I was under the impression that it was within seconds of making the call, that he told Zimmerman not to follow. I was wrong.
 
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