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dolphinocean said:
Talk about not willing to let jury system work. Weren't you people who zealously support zimmerman's self-defense claim swallowed his stories hooks, lines and sinkers and insisted that zimmerman should be cut loose and walk free without so much as an arrest let alone facing the judge and jury "to let the jury system work"?

Do you now see what we, the Justice for Trayvon group, have to deal with day in and day out for over a year already? That's the ill-logic I'm talking about that we have to deal with like forever.
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Actually, if you read my words, you would see I haven't supported anyone involved in the case. I've written that the jury system has to be allowed to work.

You, on the other hand, already have found Zimmerman guilty before the case has even been fully tried.

Such thinking forms the basis for the full racists that people who think like that are.

You are, without question, part of the problem.
 
ocean515 said:
Actually, if you read my words, you would see I haven't supported anyone involved in the case. I've written that the jury system has to be allowed to work.

You, on the other hand, already have found Zimmerman guilty before the case has even been fully tried.

Such thinking forms the basis for the full racists that people who think like that are.

You are, without question, part of the problem.
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Again, you misconception isn't my fault.

Arguing against the ill-logic and misrepresentation of pro-zimmerman supporters point doesn't make it as having "found Zimmerman guilty before the case has even been fully tried". If you've gotten the sense that zimmerman is found "guilty before the case has even been fully tried" that's only because we have exposed thorougly zimmerman's lies and have defeated your lame excuses and false argument made in support of zimmerman.
 
dolphinocean said:
Again, you misconception isn't my fault.

Arguing against the ill-logic and misrepresentation of pro-zimmerman supporters point doesn't make it as having "found Zimmerman guilty before the case has even been fully tried". If you've gotten the sense that zimmerman is found "guilty before the case has even been fully tried" that's only because we have exposed thorougly zimmerman's lies and have defeated your lame excuses and false argument made in support of zimmerman.
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I'm not sure why you are persisting in showing how racist you are.

Is it something you're proud of, or is there some other reason you have such complete disdain for the jury system, and you are in support of what amounts to a lynching of Zimmerman?

Your racist passion appears to be so complete, that you keep lumping me in with a group you dispise who want Zimmerman found innocent. I've now written multiple times that I support the jury system, support neither Zimmerman or Martin, and respect whatever jury verdict is reached.

You seem to be unable to do that.

You are part of the problem.
 
ocean515 said:
I'm not sure why you are persisting in showing how racist you are.

Is it something you're proud of, or is there some other reason you have such complete disdain for the jury system, and you are in support of what amounts to a lynching of Zimmerman?

Your racist passion appears to be so complete, that you keep lumping me in with a group you dispise who want Zimmerman found innocent. I've now written multiple times that I support the jury system, support neither Zimmerman or Martin, and respect whatever jury verdict is reached.

You seem to be unable to do that.

You are part of the problem.
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Nothing I had said that allows you to call me a racist or your accusation of me in "complete disdain for the jury system".

You don't like to be called out for your illogical argument, that doesn't make me racist or complete disdain for the jury system.
 
dolphinocean said:
Nothing I had said that allows you to call me a racist or your accusation of me in "complete disdain for the jury system".

You don't like to be called out for your illogical argument, that doesn't make me racist or complete disdain for the jury system.
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You've already decided the case.

You are what you are.
 
ocean515 said:
You've already decided the case.

You are what you are.
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Wrong. Having to expose zimmerman's lies and contradiction and having to defeat lame excuses coming from his supporters simply means that we have defeated pro-zimmerman's camp that had already decided the case for over a year ago that zimmerman should not be arrested let alone charged and faced the jury.

So, your side can unilaterally decide the case from the get go and called for zimmerman to be cut loose with impunity and my side cannot so much as make a counter-argument or risk being accused of having "decided the case" already?
 
CRUE CAB said:
Yes, and always have. But the circumstances that lead up the the actual contact was a litany of wrong moves and ill preparedness on Zimmermans part.
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And so do you feel wrong moves that are not illegal should be punishable buy jail time?
 
Campbell said:
A mature man who was told by the 911 dispatcher not to follow a "Hooded Black Punk" got out of his car and did exactly that. When he caught up to the young man he realized he had bitten off more than he could chew and murdered him. When a grown man doesn't know enough about fisticuffs to win a fight with a kid he should have kept his ass in the car. A Coward Brings A Gun To A Fistfight.

This guy filed an application with the police department in 2008 trying to join the force. In 2011 he filed the paperwork requesting a "ride-a-long"

If the jury finds this man innocent the blacks in this country will make all of us pay for an idiots mistake.
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This post is a big pile of steaming horse ****
 
dolphinocean said:
I don't think people are demanding someone to be found guilty before the trial is over. That's your misconception. Most people who want justice for Trayvon simply want to knock down the misrepresentation and illogical argument coming from pro-zimmerman supporters who have been spewing false presentation for more than a year already to taint the jury pool.

Again, your persistent in your misconception of me calling for blood is noted.
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So at what point in the trial did you decide Zimmerman was guilty & what was the testimony that convinced you?
(NOTE: Sharon is waiting for your answer so she can offer yet another Like ... but don't let that influence you in any way)
 
dolphinocean said:
Wrong. Having to expose zimmerman's lies and contradiction and having to defeat lame excuses coming from his supporters simply means that we have defeated pro-zimmerman's camp that had already decided the case for over a year ago that zimmerman should not be arrested let alone charged and faced the jury.

So, your side can unilaterally decide the case from the get go and called for zimmerman to be cut loose with impunity and my side cannot so much as make a counter-argument or risk being accused of having "decided the case" already?
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:shock:

I'm thinking that I have now written at least four times that I have no side in this matter. You continue to claim I do.

You have condemned yourself via your own words.

You're part of the problem.
 
Black Manta said:
And so do you feel wrong moves that are not illegal should be punishable buy jail time?
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In this case his wrong moves ended up with him having to shoot someone.
I have never said "I think he should go to jail", but I will lose no sleep if he does and I hope this will serve as a lesson to all CCW carriers.
 
bubbabgone said:
So at what point in the trial did you decide Zimmerman was guilty & what was the testimony that convinced you?
(NOTE: Sharon is waiting for your answer so she can offer yet another Like ... but don't let that influence you in any way)
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The jury gotta do what the jury does.

I'm here to debate whatever misrepresentation, falsehood and ill-logic sprouting out in support of zimmerman's self-defense claim and put forth by the debaters. If you people have a logical point based on the evidence at hand, I will be on your side. If your argument headed south and pointed to zimmerman's guilt, it ain't my fault.
 
ocean515 said:
:shock:

I'm thinking that I have now written at least four times that I have no side in this matter. You continue to claim I do.

You have condemned yourself via your own words.

You're part of the problem.
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I like that post. Yeah, you have no side in this matter. I thought I saw a tail somewhere. It's a gem.
 
dolphinocean said:
I can argue with that.

If whites in this country think they can act as vigilantes in taking the law into their own hands to chase and gun down black kids for walking in the rain and get away with impunity courtesy of the run away laws, the ones who act out in this manner should be treated like "criminals" with street justice.

Not saying I advocate that, absolutely not, just for the sake of argument only.
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A. Zimmerman is hispanic. Not white. He is no more white than President Obama.
B. You are still pushing the race baiting angle on this. The FBI determined there to be no racial motivation behind this incident. So... stop it.
C. The Court and Jury will decide whether he acted within the laws or not..... not the mob mentality of several scorned black americans.
 
dolphinocean said:
Talk about not willing to let jury system work. Weren't you people who zealously support zimmerman's self-defense claim swallowed his stories hooks, lines and sinkers and insisted that zimmerman should be cut loose and walk free without so much as an arrest let alone facing the judge and jury "to let the jury system work"?

Do you now see what we, the Justice for Trayvon group, have to deal with day in and day out for over a year already? That's the ill-logic I'm talking about that we have to deal with like forever.
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When I saw what pathetically sufficed as an affidavit for the arrest warrant in this case, yes, I'd say that he shouldn't be arrested.

If that was their showing of probable cause, it was weak, too weak to even garner the arrest in my opinion based on my years of law enforcement experience...

And many popular ex-judges and lawyers agreed with my opinion on the matter, and said so on national television.
 
Caine said:
A. Zimmerman is hispanic. Not white. He is no more white than President Obama.
B. You are still pushing the race baiting angle on this. The FBI determined there to be no racial motivation behind this incident. So... stop it.
C. The Court and Jury will decide whether he acted within the laws or not..... not the mob mentality of several scorned black americans.
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Zimmerman identified himself as white. So, was the SPD and most others, including the media and the conservative whites. Of course, now whites what to identify him as hispanic to whitewash something.

Are you goiing arrest me now, Caine?
 
dolphinocean said:
The jury gotta do what the jury does.

I'm here to debate whatever misrepresentation, falsehood and ill-logic sprouting out in support of zimmerman's self-defense claim and put forth by the debaters. If you people have a logical point based on the evidence at hand, I will be on your side. If your argument headed south and pointed to zimmerman's guilt, it ain't my fault.
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And if you had a logical point that didn't include the words, "IF" in its explanation I'd like to hear it.

We can't convict people on IFs... despite what "Justice for Trayvon" people seem to think.
 
ocean515 said:
What are you going to do if the jury finds Zimmerman innocent?
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Juries do not ever find anyone innocent, they either find them guilty as charged, guilty of a lesser included offense or not guilty.
 
dolphinocean said:
Zimmerman identified himself as white. So, was the SPD and most others, including the media and the conservative whites. Of course, now whites what to identify him as hispanic to whitewash something.

Are you goiing arrest me now, Caine?
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A. Identifying himself as white doesn't make him white. Not that it matters if he did.... I just find it funny that everyone wants to make him out to be some old white dude with a white hood on his head when he isn't.
B. I notice you ignored the FBI's determination in their investigation. Noted.
C. No, Im not going to arrest you.
 
ocean515 said:
What are you going to do if the jury finds Zimmerman innocent?
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Like most American in the past. Disagree if there is nothing new that change the course of what I have seen for over a year but accept the verdict and move on with my life. If I live in Florida I may try to do my part to effect change in the law that allows such injustice to take place.
 
CRUE CAB said:
In this case his wrong moves ended up with him having to shoot someone.
I have never said "I think he should go to jail", but I will lose no sleep if he does and I hope this will serve as a lesson to all CCW carriers.
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What lesson is that? If someone is beating you up for no reason don't defend yourself? Hehehehehe! Sure OK.
 
Caine said:
A. Identifying himself as white doesn't make him white. Not that it matters if he did.... I just find it funny that everyone wants to make him out to be some old white dude with a white hood on his head when he isn't.
B. I notice you ignored the FBI's determination in their investigation. Noted.
C. No, Im not going to arrest you.
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Doesn't matter when at the beginning he was presented as white in the media.
 
dolphinocean said:
The jury gotta do what the jury does.

I'm here to debate whatever misrepresentation, falsehood and ill-logic sprouting out in support of zimmerman's self-defense claim and put forth by the debaters. If you people have a logical point based on the evidence at hand, I will be on your side. If your argument headed south and pointed to zimmerman's guilt, it ain't my fault.
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That's nice ... so anyway ... the question was ... at what point in the trial did you decide Zimmerman was guilty and what was the evidence that convinced you?
 
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