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Judge Mathis weighs in on Zimmerman trial. [W:109]

What took you so long? I figured one of you would have pulled the race card back on page one. It still doesn't make it any less despicable...

But hey, when you have nothing I guess the race card will do in a pinch, right?

The race card was pulled when this stupidity was posted and then comments like, "ya hun, lotsa black folk like this here particla black and they watch his show" and "der he justa makin an appeal to others that look like that der ole Obumma's son, blerp."

People of all races watch his show and I fail to see how a black judge commenting on this case is worthy of its own thread because he brought up race, in a fair and honest way and never painted a negative picture about WHITES but about the profiling done by the fat Afro Peruvian on trial for murder. Why do white people continue to insert themselves into this and race bait when this trial isn't about white people?

Meanwhile Zimmerman's idiotic father just put out an entire racist book blaming blacks for all racism even as his ignorant family got on TV and said Zimmerman should receive a fair trial because this case isn't about race. A court magistrate involved in a high profile case puts out a racist book in the middle of a trial yet that garners no thread? Why? Because you folks are race baiters who used the race card and created this thread to lament about being white in America and having to listen to the opinions of black people.

Obviously the book Zimmerman's father wrote is racist If not only for the simple fact that white people have decided that anytime a comment is made about racism, its racist. I guess you're saying that's true unless of course white people talk about race and then it's okay?

And you folks wonder why there is a black President. The mindset behind the creation of this post is out of touch with the real world.
 
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The race card was pulled when this stupidity was posted and then comments like, "ya hun, lotsa black folk like this here particla black and they watch his show." People of all races watch his show and I fail to see how a black jugde commenting on this case is worthy of its own thread because he brought up race when Zimmerman's idiotic father just put out an entire racist book. Obviously the book is racist because white people have decided that anytime a comment is made a racism its racist.... unless of course white people talk about race and then it's oksy.

And you folks wonder why there is a black President. The mindset behind the creation of this post is out of touch with the real world.

WTF are you talking about?

The man states he can't render a conclusion on Zimmerman's guilt or innocence, because he is a judge and that wouldn't be proper, then proceeds to do exactly that. He couldn't have been any more transparent and to top it all off, the man can't even get all the damned facts straight. Here's are the top 10 misstated facts and not so subtle innuendos by the "honorable" Judge Mathis:

1. The case "shines a light on racial profiling and SD laws" - Racial profiling? This case has nothing to do with racial profiling. This is 100% about self defense vs. murder.

2. "Zimmerman was on patrol as a neighborhood watchman" - No he wasn't. He was on his way to the store.

3. "He said he was black and wearing a hoodie" - Zimmerman was asked if he was white, black, or Hispanic. He was unsure and said "he looks black" and then a minute later when he got closer he told the officer "he's a black male". He was also asked Martins description, so he described his pants, top and shoes. He didn't call police and say "there's a suspicious looking hoodie wearing black guy walking down the street".

4. He was told not to follow Martin, but "Zimmerman followed Martin anyway" - There is no evidence to substantiate that. Zimmerman said after the dispatcher said he didn't need him to do that, he said "OK" and no longer followed Martin. Even if he still followed him, the judge failed to point out that was not an order Zimmerman was required to adhere to, and his actions were not illegal and well within his rights as a citizen.

5. On 911 tapes we hear a "no, no", we don't know if that came from Z or M - What was screamed was "help" and possibly "stop", but nowhere did I hear "no, no". Zimmerman said it was him screaming for help, a neighbor said it was zimmerman screaming for help, the police were convinced it was zimmerman screaming for help, Zimmerman's family are convinced it was Z screaming for help, Martin's father after hearing the tape of the screams said that was not his son screaming, and since the FBI determined the screams were impossible to analyze, that's all the available evidence. That doesn't sound as up in the air as the judge made it out to be.

6. Is this a case of "walking while black"... Did he "zoom in on Martin" and follow him because he was a black male wearing a hoodie - For a judge who won't draw a conclusion until all the evidence and testimony has been given, he sure didn't hesitate to speculate. Problem is, he only speculated about how this could be all Zimmerman's fault and he used the race card to do it. He never once speculated that Martin may have acted inappropriately... He never commented about the physical injuries to Z, and lack of injuries to M? He never speculated why Martin decided to confront Z instead of just going home?

7. Racial profiling is a form of discrimination... - More speculation about Zimmerman's motives, yet the judge failed to mention that maybe Martin fit the description of the men who were involved in a series of recent burglaries in the neighborhood, and that may have played a part in why Z called the police.

8. The Judge defines "racial profiling" as an act committed by law enforcement officials - George Zimmerman is not a law enforcement official.

9. Since the SYG laws went in effect in 2005, deaths have "shot up over 200% in Florida" - Instead of standing by "the rule of law" as a judge is supposed to do, now the judge is saying the SYG law is bad, insinuating that even if Z is found not guilty, he's still could be a murderer... just a legal one.

10. Some say Zimmerman's choice for jury trial, rather than SYG hearing gives him "better chance for acquittal" - Implying that the use of this legal strategy might allow him to get away with his crime.


So where were any of the facts or speculation from the judge that didn't make Zimmerman out to be racist, trigger happy child murderer? I sure as hell couldn't find them anywhere, could you? I mean come on... Could the judge have been anymore obvious about his belief that Zimmerman is guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin and did so simply because Martin was black?

Now if you would, find some place real special you can dig a nice deep hole and bury all those racist incinuations... Because to be honest with you, I've had about enough from people like you who point their condescending finger in my direction and label me racist for simply pointing out the plain, simple, unvarnished truth... Now if you've grown attached to those insinuations and feel you just can't part with them, may I suggest you point them in the direction of Judge Mathis where I assure you they will be a much better fit... While your at it, why not do everyone a favor and remind that "officer of the court" that that isn't one of those trick blindfolds that lady justice is wearing... It's real and he of all people shouldn't have to be reminded of that.
 
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https://216.58.158.174/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/audio_interview_0229_1.mp3



George Zimmerman reported Trayvon Martin to police because he was black. He spotted another black male in the area two or three weeks prior to the shooting. As you can hear on the tape, Serino noted the hoodie (grey) and the pants (beige) do not fit the profile of someone burglarizing homes at night. It is black on black on black clothing, not grey on beige.

Trayvon Martin case: Frank Taaffe justified racial profiling that may have killed Trayvon Martin | theGrio





Wrong and bias

Dismissed


Once again....What reasons Z gave for reporting M?

Anyone on the M camp want to answer?
 
Wrong and bias

Dismissed


Once again....What reasons Z gave for reporting M?

Anyone on the M camp want to answer?

He thought a teen was suspicious for walking in the rain.... Maybe George thinks all teens have cars or they steal TVs and make their get -away on foot.
 
He thought a teen was suspicious for walking in the rain.... Maybe George thinks all teens have cars or they steal TVs and make their get -away on foot.

Not bad!

Just stick with the reasons Z gave and halt, the what *you think* for a sec

What else?
 
Not bad!

Just stick with the reasons Z gave and halt, the what *you think* for a sec

What else?

He thought TM was on drugs but didn't know TM was talking on the phone.. He also thought TM should have been walking with his eyes closed.
 
He thought TM was on drugs but didn't know TM was talking on the phone.. He also thought TM should have been walking with his eyes closed.

Keep going..... but don't assume what *you think* about Z

Stay focus

Stick with what he told NEN

Stick with the evidence
 
Keep going..... but don't assume what *you think* about Z

Stay focus

Stick with what he told NEN

Stick with the evidence

George said TM was walking and looking around..

You have got to know by now that George is dumb as a stump and has an inferiority complex.
 
Wrong and bias

Dismissed


Once again....What reasons Z gave for reporting M?

Anyone on the M camp want to answer?

You are the one that is wrong and bias. Serino asked Zimmerman what was going on in his mind just before/during the 911 call. Zimmerman replied he called and reported another suspicious black male two to three weeks prior.
 
You are the one that is wrong and bias. Serino asked Zimmerman what was going on in his mind just before/during the 911 call. Zimmerman replied he called and reported another suspicious black male two to three weeks prior.

Yep.. Emmanuel Burgess was a daytime burglar and was spotted by someone.. maybe Shelie.. George called NEN that night..

But Burgess was heavy set.. and had been in jail for weeks.
 
You are the one that is wrong and bias. Serino asked Zimmerman what was going on in his mind just before/during the 911 call. Zimmerman replied he called and reported another suspicious black male two to three weeks prior.

Your thoughts on this case are convoluted and bias NOT based on the evidence

Point blank

What reasons Z gave in finding M suspicious?
 
Your thoughts on this case are convoluted and bias NOT based on the evidence

Point blank

What reasons Z gave in finding M suspicious?

Have you looked at any of the evidence.. documents, statements, videos. They are neatly catalogued at GZleglcase.com.
 
Your thoughts on this case are convoluted and bias NOT based on the evidence

Point blank

What reasons Z gave in finding M suspicious?

Reporting a suspicious black male two or three weeks prior to 2/26/12 is one of the reasons George Zimmerman gave to Detective Chris Serino on why he called police dispatch. It is documented. I provided the link to the audio file and a partial transcript. I think he mentions it during the Hannity interview as well. Let me watch it again to verify.
 
Reporting a suspicious black male two or three weeks prior to 2/26/12 is one of the reasons George Zimmerman gave to Detective Chris Serino on why he called police dispatch. It is documented. I provided the link to the audio file and a partial transcript. I think he mentions it during the Hannity interview as well. Let me watch it again to verify.

You want to wriggle your way out of this, eh?

This is what happens when you make up/fabricate **** to fit your agenda

These are the consequences

Point blank

Did Z report M because of his race?

Yes or no?
 
Have you looked at any of the evidence.. documents, statements, videos. They are neatly catalogued at GZleglcase.com.

Point blank

Did Z report M because of his race?

Yes or no?
 
Point blank

Did Z report M because of his race?

Yes or no?

Who cares? George was looking for black burglars... Those same burglars who struck in the daytime before families returned from work or school.

Don't you get how stupid George really is and how carried away by his own fantasies of being a hero?
 
Who cares? George was looking for black burglars... Those same burglars who struck in the daytime before families returned from work or school.

Don't you get how stupid George really is and how carried away by his own fantasies of being a hero?

Who cares? That is a lame ass reply

Once again
...

This time answer without bull****ting around

Did Z report M because of his race?

Yes or no?
 
Who cares? That is a lame ass reply

Once again
...

This time answer without bull****ting around

Did Z report M because of his race?

Yes or no?

I have NO IDEA.. but according to George.. he was profiling young black burglars.. He sent out "who to consider suspicious" emails to many of the residents.
 
I have NO IDEA.. but according to George.. he was profiling young black burglars.. He sent out "who to consider suspicious" emails to many of the residents.

You have no idea because your purpose is advocating/arguing for Z's guilt with zero thought behind it. Period

You don't impartially discuss, the law, the facts or the evidence

How can you make an informed decision based on NOT reading the evidence?
 
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I have NO IDEA.. but according to George.. he was profiling young black burglars.. He sent out "who to consider suspicious" emails to many of the residents.

Oh did he now? I'm sure Negros were numbers one thru 10 on the list.
 
Oh did he now? I'm sure Negros were numbers one thru 10 on the list.

Yes.. most residents didn't know George.. but the ones who were interested in NW were receiving emails about who was suspicious..

The police were cognizant of the daytime burglaries.. when homes were empty ... and thought the perps were teens operating between the time school got out and before people got home from work.

IMO.. The little posse of thieves were lead by Emmanuel Burgess.. George's neighbor on Retreat View Circle..

Which doesn't mean ALL black teens are burglars.
 
Oh did he now? I'm sure Negros were numbers one thru 10 on the list.

Yes.. most residents didn't know George.. but the ones who were interested in NW were receiving emails about who was suspicious..

The police were cognizant of the daytime burglaries.. when homes were empty ... and thought the perps were teens operating between the time school got out and before people got home from work.

IMO.. The little posse of thieves were lead by Emmanuel Burgess.. George's neighbor on Retreat View Circle..

Which doesn't mean ALL black teens are burglars.

Did Z report M because of his race?

Yes or no?
 
You want to wriggle your way out of this, eh?

This is what happens when you make up/fabricate **** to fit your agenda

These are the consequences

Point blank

Did Z report M because of his race?

Yes or no?

Absolutely 100% Y-E-S

Race played a major role, making it seem like Trayvon Martin was "up to no good".
 
black boys, black boys, whatcha gonna do? whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
 
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