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Trayvon's voice - what does the expert quoted say?

sharon said:
It was "purposeful"... and it was a lie.. OMara has spent more time on social media than in building a case for the defense.
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No sharon it wasn't.
You can play make believe all you want, it wont change the fact that it wasn't done on-purpose.
It was a mistake and he admitted it was, unlike Crump who has been spouting lies since the beginning.
 
Paperview said:
To date, GZLegal has not released the video.

Wonder why?
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Please tell us why. Doh! :doh

It isn't relevant, or it is too provocative.
Those would be the only reasons. Just like the redacted text messages.

:lamo
 
sharon said:
I think OMara is lazy.............
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Lazy and despicable. GZLegal has known of that tape since SEPT 2012.

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Eight months. How in the world anyone can make a leap from two guys arguing over a bike, where TM's voice is heard --

to Trayvon's two "buddies beating up a homeless guy" is anyone's guess.

O'Mara is either incredibly inept

or

a baldfaced liar who makes false criminal charges against a dead victim before a judge by making up **** out of thin air.

Has to be one or the other.
 
sharon said:
Have you listened to Trayvon voice yet? I provided a link.
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sharon, what do you think "Do you hear that voice. It clearly wasn't Trayvon screaming for help that night", means?
 
sharon said:
Trayvon's voice is all over the place.. High and low...

Guns, Race and Cable News: How The George Zimmerman Trial Could Turn Into Fox vs. MSNBC | Mediaite
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It doesn't take an expert to hear the higher pitch in that recent audio sample. That is Trayvon's voice. More convincing than ever now.

A sample that ABC somehow gained "exclusive" access to - State's evidence handed over to the defense - that GZLegal doesn't release.

One theory: GZ sold it to ABC. Cashing in on the evidence.
 
Excon said:
Again sharon.
What do you think "Do you hear that voice. It clearly wasn't Trayvon screaming for help that night", means?
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One voice is yelling help.. the other is screaming for its life.
 
sharon said:
One voice is yelling help.. the other is screaming for its life.
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No sharon. ™ was not screaming for help or for his life. He was too busy making Zimmerman scream for help and for his life.
 
Excon said:
No sharon. ™ was not screaming for help or for his life. He was too busy making Zimmerman scream for help and for his life.
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Most of the experts disagree with you.. and the FBI guy can't say for certain.

listen

 
sharon said:
[video=youtube;PjHibFWTXSU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjHibFWTXSU&feature=player_embedded[/video
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Yes sharon, we know. He does not sound like the person screaming at all.
But Zimmerman does.


Funny how the video cuts off the portion of the report that says it was Zimmerman screaming that night and not ™.
That is called obfuscation sharon and out right dishonesty.


And don't confuse scientific analysis with general listening.
Not the same.
 
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Excon said:
Yes sharon, we know. He does not sound like the person screaming at all.
But Zimmerman does.


And don't confuse scientific analysis with general listening.
Not the same.
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George claims that Trayvon was cursing and talking to him the whole time....
 
sharon said:
Most of the experts disagree with you.. and the FBI guy can't say for certain.

listen

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Funny how none of the experts can hear "you're going to die tonight mother ******."

That's because it came from the imagination of George Zimmerman.
 
sharon said:
George claims that Trayvon was cursing and talking to him the whole time....
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Yes sharon. That is not screaming for help, or your life as Zimmerman was doing.
 
Paperview said:
Funny how none of the experts can hear "you're going to die tonight mother ******."

That's because it came from the imagination of George Zimmerman.
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Why would they hear that?
Especially since he wasn't screaming it?
Why would they be able to hear that through a phone that was located a distance away?
 
"....I.... buried.....Paul....." they got that one right too!!
 
buck said:
Eh. I can't watch today. Every so often, post an update on how the defense witnesses do.

Just a general sense.
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This expert is from the UK.. very impressive......
 
ric27 said:
You have no reliable evidence for that.

On Z's side....forensic evidence on clothing and the bullet trajectory all support the version Z indicates

Keep trying though
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You said there was no possible way the person on top could be the one calling for help.

I provided an example that refutes your position.

It doesn't have to fit the evidence to do so.

It only has to present a situation where the person on top would be yelling for help.
 
buck said:
Eh. I can't watch today. Every so often, post an update on how the defense witnesses do.

Just a general sense.
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A very learned and professional person. Far superior to anything the Prosecution has presented.

He is basically saying that screams can not be analyzed.
They can not be compared with regular voice samples.

These are the tweets from Mike Deforest at the link sharon provided.

Mike DeForest@MikeDeForest6
#georgezimmerman trying to block state from using 2 voice experts who claim they can ID #trayvonmartin screams on 911 call.



Dr French says he's handled 5000 cases and appeared in court 200 times, mostly for prosecution.



French: In 30 yr career I've never come across a case of someone comparing screaming to a normal voice. It's impossible.



French: You can't determine from someone's normal voice what they sound like when under severe attack, and vice versa.



French: With screaming, the features we look for to ID voice (accent, rate of speech, vowel sounds, etc) not there



French: One person's screams could sound like another's. Its uncharted territory that hasn't been adequately studied.



French: The Zimmerman 911 call not even remotely suitable for comparison. "it wouldn't have gotten to 1st base"
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