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What the state doesn't want said of Trayvon Martin at trial [W:326]

JackFrost said:
Your original question? The problem here is that you are willfully ignorant of the subject matter, which you have admitted, to know that I have already answered the question.

Are you going to learn about the subject matter so you can see the answer that has been given already?
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If I'm going to learn about what's going on I guess I'll have to go find someone who knows, as you apparently haven't a clue yourself.
 
Here is Reich's report. I personally find it humorous. It basically seems like he just has a great imagination and can find works in other background sounds.

http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/051013_reich_report.pdf

Something else I find ammusing, is he claims to hear an argument between two guys on one of the other 911 calls... Then he claims he can tell which voice is George's, because he hears the same type of whisspering (not sure why he's whispering during a loud argument or how that whisper makes it through a house into a 911 call, but ok...) that he imagines to hear on George's 911 call.
 
buck said:
Here is Reich's report. I personally find it humorous. It basically seems like he just has a great imagination and can find works in other background sounds.

http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/051013_reich_report.pdf

Something else I find ammusing, is he claims to hear an argument between two guys on one of the other 911 calls... Then he claims he can tell which voice is George's, because he hears the same type of whisspering (not sure why he's whispering during a loud argument or how that whisper makes it through a house into a 911 call, but ok...) that he imagines to hear on George's 911 call.
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Just read a bit further... Apparently George Zimmerman was acting as a carnival barker or evangelical preacher while having an argument with Trayvon, or so Reich claims. This guy is comic gold.
 
Jerry said:
Is there anything to keep up with? A motion here, a motion there....I'm pretty sure Slim@No_Limit_Nigga is still dead, and Mr. Zimmerman is still fat and unemployed...what's to report?
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There's a lot of information to keep up with for those actually educated in the law. For everyone else, there's American Idol.
 
What the state doesn't want said of Trayvon Martin at trial?

the truth.......
 
JackFrost said:
State experts differ on voice analysis in George Zimmerman case | News - Home

Oh the defense is not trying to keep the truth out? :lol:

When this gets admitted as evidence, I predict a 110% guaranteed guilty verdict.
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HLN analysts stated they expect that it will not be admitted. Neither of the experts were particularly certain of who it was and the exemplar does not even meet the minimum requirements to perform the analysis as laid out by the analysts. besides which, Reiches analasys is just silly.
 
JackFrost said:
State experts differ on voice analysis in George Zimmerman case | News - Home

Oh the defense is not trying to keep the truth out? :lol:

When this gets admitted as evidence, I predict a 110% guaranteed guilty verdict.
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That crap is exactly what the anchor man called it... Junk science... It's pure BS by someone who is obviously just like you, and made up their mind on day one Zimmerman was guilty of murder and is going to do what ever it takes to make that a reality.
 
mike2810 said:
I have stated on another thread that it is possible GZ will be found guilty of M2 to possibly manslaughter.

One thing that bothers me about your statement is "stack the evidence". This to me implies the action of having certain evidence that exists, but could hurt the prosecution case, so lets not let the jury be made aware of that evidence.

Thought you supported a fair and impartail trial. Now I am not so sure.
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Like not include TM's toxicology report, cause it might show he was smoking pot the night he was killed? That kind of impartial trial?

State pushes to keep Trayvon Martin's past out of George Zimmerman trial | News - Home
 
To deny the defense from showing Trayvon's character, when the defense is that it was self defense from an attacker, would be flat out wrong.
 
American said:
Like not include TM's toxicology report, cause it might show he was smoking pot the night he was killed? That kind of impartial trial?

State pushes to keep Trayvon Martin's past out of George Zimmerman trial | News - Home
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According to the paramedic report, the vigilante neighborhood watch captain was on the prescription drug Temazepam, reports MSNBC.com.

Temazepam, also known as Restoril, is known to cause insomnia and anxiety, reports MSNBC. But there are more important side effects that were not mentioned.

According to the U.S. National Library of Medicine, the drug is also known to cause “aggressiveness” and “hallucinations,” among other problematic symptoms.

George Zimmerman on Prescription Drugs That Cause Aggression, Paranoia, When He Killed Trayvon | Breaking News for Black America

The defense fought to keep Zimmerman's drug out. Why can't the prosecution do the same? Admit both or none. It is only fair and impartial.
 
JackFrost said:
According to the paramedic report, the vigilante neighborhood watch captain was on the prescription drug Temazepam, reports MSNBC.com.

Temazepam, also known as Restoril, is known to cause insomnia and anxiety, reports MSNBC. But there are more important side effects that were not mentioned.

According to the U.S. National Library of Medicine, the drug is also known to cause “aggressiveness” and “hallucinations,” among other problematic symptoms.

George Zimmerman on Prescription Drugs That Cause Aggression, Paranoia, When He Killed Trayvon | Breaking News for Black America

The defense fought to keep Zimmerman's drug out. Why can't the prosecution do the same? Admit both or none. It is only fair and impartial.
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sweet. GZ should plead "not guilty by reason of temporary insanity" brought on by side effects of his legally used prescription. Then sue the **** out of the makers of Temazepam and make a killing.

the drug company, by knowingly marketing a drug that causes "aggressiveness", "hallucinations" and "anxiety" demonstrated gross negligence and reckless abandon. they are the ones responsible for Trayvon Martin's death.
 
JackFrost said:
-10 years of molesting a younger female cousin
-Years of child abuse
-Attacking his ex-fiance
-Attacking an undercover LEO
-Bullying co-workers
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iLOL
:doh

All unsupported allegations.



JackFrost said:
Oh the defense is not trying to keep the truth out? :lol:
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What they are trying to keep out is untruths that only serve to bias and confuse a Jury. The prosecution on the other hand wishes to suppress evidence that adversely affects their attempts to get a conviction.



JackFrost said:
When this gets admitted as evidence, I predict a 110% guaranteed guilty verdict.
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Do you now?
Something so easily refuted and you think it will guarantee a conviction? :doh iLOL
So typical.


JackFrost said:
The defense fought to keep Zimmerman's drug out. Why can't the prosecution do the same? Admit both or none. It is only fair and impartial.
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For a couple of reasons.
There is no evidence that Zimmerman suffered from any of the side effects which only affect a very small percentage of people.
If there was evidence that he was (not just supposition) then it should be admissible.
But as t stands there is not. So it should not be admissible.

Trayvon's usage is factual. Not supposition.
Goes directly to his character and to why he was in Sanford.

Also his factually having trace amounts in his blood, that suggest usage within a three hour period, very well could explain Trayvon's mannerisms that cause Zimmerman to be suspicious of him in the first place.
"This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something,"​






sharon said:
Yep...

Leatherman also talks about these motions.
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The Leatherman denier, is now here pressing Leatherman's opinion - Again!
Figures.
 
Grim17 said:
That crap is exactly what the anchor man called it... Junk science... It's pure BS by someone who is obviously just like you, and made up their mind on day one Zimmerman was guilty of murder and is going to do what ever it takes to make that a reality.
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I find it humorous that you imagine me making up my mind on day one:lol:

I do agree with you that people will do whatever it takes to convict Zimmerman of murder.

God's Plan. Trust in HIM.
 
Excon said:
iLOL
:doh

All unsupported allegations.



What they are tryiong to keep out is untruths that only serve to bias and confuse a Jury. The prosecution on the other hand wishes to suppress evidence that adversely affects their attempts to get a conviction.



Do you now?
Something so easily refuted and you think it will guarantee a conviction? :doh iLOL
So typical.


For a couple of reasons.
There is no evidence that Zimmerman suffered from any of the side effects which only affect a very small percentage of people.
If there was evidence that he was (not just supposition) then it should be admissible.
But as t stands there is not. So it should not be admissible.

Trayvon's usage is factual. Not supposition.
Goes directly to his character and to why he was in Sanford.

Also his factually having trace amounts in his blood, that suggest usage within a three hour period, very well could explain Trayvon's mannerisms that cause Zimmerman to be suspicious of him in the first place.
"This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something,"​






The Leatherman denier, is now here pressing Leatherman's opinion - Again!
Figures.
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George's history probably won't be allowed at trial either... unless he is convicted.. It may come up before sentencing. No reason to prejudice the jurors.
 
Excon said:
he's on drugs or something
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yup.

GZ says it looks like TM was on drugs or something. ME report shows THC in TM's system. GZ was spot on in his assessment.
 
sharon said:
George's history probably won't be allowed at trial either... unless he is convicted.. It may come up before sentencing. No reason to prejudice the jurors.
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Zimmerman's history as discussed is irrelevant to what happened that night.
Trayvon's drug usage is not.
If Trayvon has a violent past it is also not irrelevant.
 
Excon said:
Zimmerman's history as discussed is irrelevant to what happened that night.
Trayvon's drug usage is not.
If Trayvon has a violent past it is also not irrelevant.
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I'm still puzzled at the timing of TM's "conversion" from sweet little kid to "NO_LIMIT_NIGGA". seems it happened at about the same time that his father started taking him on visits to his mistress.

things that make you go "hmmmmm"
 
OscarB63 said:
I'm still puzzled at the timing of TM's "conversion" from sweet little kid to "NO_LIMIT_NIGGA". seems it happened at about the same time that his father started taking him on visits to his mistress.

things that make you go "hmmmmm"
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Hmmmmm?
 
Excon said:
iLOL
:doh

All unsupported allegations.



What they are trying to keep out is untruths that only serve to bias and confuse a Jury. The prosecution on the other hand wishes to suppress evidence that adversely affects their attempts to get a conviction.



Do you now?
Something so easily refuted and you think it will guarantee a conviction? :doh iLOL
So typical.


For a couple of reasons.
There is no evidence that Zimmerman suffered from any of the side effects which only affect a very small percentage of people.
If there was evidence that he was (not just supposition) then it should be admissible.
But as t stands there is not. So it should not be admissible.

Trayvon's usage is factual. Not supposition.
Goes directly to his character and to why he was in Sanford.

Also his factually having trace amounts in his blood, that suggest usage within a three hour period, very well could explain Trayvon's mannerisms that cause Zimmerman to be suspicious of him in the first place.
"This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something,"​






The Leatherman denier, is now here pressing Leatherman's opinion - Again!
Figures.
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1. Zimmerman's usage is factual
2. Evidence/proof Trayvon used within three hours? The amount of THC found in the autopsy can
be seen for days after someone smokes. Where did you get three hours? Conservative
Treehouse again?
3. No evidence the trace amounts of THC played a role, only supposition. One does not need THC
in their blood to attack someone.
 
OscarB63 said:
sweet. GZ should plead "not guilty by reason of temporary insanity" brought on by side effects of his legally used prescription. Then sue the **** out of the makers of Temazepam and make a killing.

the drug company, by knowingly marketing a drug that causes "aggressiveness", "hallucinations" and "anxiety" demonstrated gross negligence and reckless abandon. they are the ones responsible for Trayvon Martin's death.
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As long as it's not George Zimmerman, right?:lol:

Stop making excuses for your boy man, it is so sad. :lol:
 
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