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Defendant's response to mr. Crump's memo of law

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The defense now focuses their attack upon Tracy Martin, the father of the deceased.

http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0413/042913_resp_to_memo.pdf

They claim Tracy Martin's "flip-flop" was for financial gain. Once again, lots of accusations, but no proof, much like Jodi Arias.

The defense cannot prove anything here, another frivolous motion that will be denied.
 
The Zman defense wants the details of the confidential civil case between Trayvon's parents and the apartment complex released because those details might have some relevance to the Zman defense.

Why not? Defendant's are entitled to available relevant information useful in their defense as well as any information that might lead to relevant evidence. Certainly there might be details in the 3rd party civil proceedings that would open avenues of inquiry for the defense and Zman should therefore at least have the right to review that possible evidence. Civil Information that would allow defense impeachment of a criminal prosecution witness is imminently relevant.

Just because you want one side to win is not sufficient legal reason to keep helpful information secret from the side you don't like.
 
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The defense now focuses their attack upon Tracy Martin, the father of the deceased.

http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0413/042913_resp_to_memo.pdf

They claim Tracy Martin's "flip-flop" was for financial gain. Once again, lots of accusations, but no proof, much like Jodi Arias.

The defense cannot prove anything here, another frivolous motion that will be denied.

Good for O'Marra for being on the ball.

The jury may or may not find that the financial interest in the case actually affected the testimony ...

It should be for the Jury to decide.
 
first.
as some have stated on another thread, civil suits are about money.

seems legit to want to determine potential" bias and interest impeachment evidence ,,,"

the defense states the "jury may or may not find the financial interest in the case actually affected the testimony...."

I say let the agreement in and let the jury sort it out.

Is it not a fact that the father changed his statement about the screams?

I also find the timing of suing the HOA and then the settlement out of court interesting?

At least in the OJ affair the civil suit came after the criminal trial.
 
first.
as some have stated on another thread, civil suits are about money.

seems legit to want to determine potential" bias and interest impeachment evidence ,,,"

the defense states the "jury may or may not find the financial interest in the case actually affected the testimony...."

I say let the agreement in and let the jury sort it out.

Is it not a fact that the father changed his statement about the screams?

I also find the timing of suing the HOA and then the settlement out of court interesting?

At least in the OJ affair the civil suit came after the criminal trial.

Because they sued OJ, not an HOA:lol:

Spin to win:spin:
 
Because they sued OJ, not an HOA:lol:

Spin to win:spin:


It is clear you have no intention of debating. You must be a comedian, your response is a joke. :lol:

So no response on why the request is not valid?
What does your response have to do with the TM family timing of the civil suit. Seems they were in a rush and didn't want to wait for the criminal proceedings.
 
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your a riot.
One liners all you got.

Your post are entertainment. :lol:

So no response on why the request is valid?

So what does your response have to do with the TM family timing of the civil suit. Seems they were in a rush and didn't want to wait for the criminal trail.

1. The request is not valid due to the irrelevant nature of said request. It is a fishing expedition, nothing more.
2. The timing of "a" civil suit, not "the" civil suit. George Zimmerman is next.
 
1. The request is not valid due to the irrelevant nature of said request.
Wrong.
A financial interest in ones account, of such here, is always relevant, as it can affect their credibility.
 
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Wrong.
A financial interest in ones account, of such here, is always relevant, as it can affect their credibility.

By that logic, anything can affect credibility:lol:

Lucky for us, the hearing is tomorrow.
 
1. The request is not valid due to the irrelevant nature of said request. It is a fishing expedition, nothing more.
2. The timing of "a" civil suit, not "the" civil suit. George Zimmerman is next.

you forgot to add, " in your opinion."
Thank you for being the grammer police. That added a lot to the discussion.:mrgreen:

In my opinion, the TM family is more interested in dollars than justice at this point. If justice was the priority, they would have waited to file a civil suit against the HOA.
It does look like they plan to file a civil suit against GZ.
 
Good for O'Marra for being on the ball.
The jury may or may not find that the financial interest in the case actually affected the testimony ...

It should be for the Jury to decide.
Wrong.

It should be for Excon to decide. And only Excon, nobody else. Everybody here knows that.

Duh! :doh
 
you forgot to add, " in your opinion."
Thank you for being the grammer police. That added a lot to the discussion.:mrgreen:

In my opinion, the TM family is more interested in dollars than justice at this point. If justice was the priority, they would have waited to file a civil suit against the HOA.
It does look like they plan to file a civil suit against GZ.

Indeed, in your opinion, based on hatred.
 
Wrong.

It should be for Excon to decide. And only Excon, nobody else. Everybody here knows that.

Duh! :doh

One of the most ignorant statements made yet on this thread, imo.
So in the context of the case, why are you saying Excon should decide?

Before you get all worked up, yes I tend to support GZ. But, I have also said it should be up to the jury to decide on the charges of murder. I have also stated in other threads that I will have no problem with the jury decision no matter if they clear GZ or find him guilty. I also have stated that imo GZ may be found guilty of manslaughter.

Reading through the GZ threads, it is clear there are many who have already found GZ guilty.
 
This is true, since he has repeatedly acquitted George Zimmerman before the trial.

How is that any different from what you're doing? You've had GZ guilty before the trial. Now you want to ensure that happens, you don't want evidence admitted that might end up aquitting him. Transparent.
 
Indeed, in your opinion, based on hatred.

Please provide evidence that my opinion is based on "hatred".

One of the posters in support of TM made the statement that civil suits are about money.

I mearly have questioned the timing of and the settlement of the HOA civil suit prior to the criminal case being settled.
It will be interesting if the criminal case clears GZ.
 
One of the most ignorant statements made yet on this thread, imo.
So in the context of the case, why are you saying Excon should decide?

Before you get all worked up, yes I tend to support GZ. But, I have also said it should be up to the jury to decide on the charges of murder. I have also stated in other threads that I will have no problem with the jury decision no matter if they clear GZ or find him guilty. I also have stated that imo GZ may be found guilty of manslaughter.

Reading through the GZ threads, it is clear there are many who have already found GZ guilty.
Seriously, are you over your head?
 
Please provide evidence that my opinion is based on "hatred".

One of the posters in support of TM made the statement that civil suits are about money.

I mearly have questioned the timing of and the settlement of the HOA civil suit prior to the criminal case being settled.
It will be interesting if the criminal case clears GZ.

Accusing the Martin family of seeking $$$ over justice for their murdered son without even knowing them or having a conversation directly with them about the issue is based on what exactly? Clearly, it is not based on the details, as none have been revealed.

All we know so far is a black family received some $$$, and there you go accusing them of seeking $$$ over justice. Your opinion is definitely not based on love, compassion, fondness, or direct knowledge of the issue.

What is left is hate, ignorance, and a cruelty that knows no bounds.
 
Accusing the Martin family of seeking $$$ over justice for their murdered son without even knowing them or having a conversation directly with them about the issue is based on what exactly? Clearly, it is not based on the details, as none have been revealed.

All we know so far is a black family received some $$$, and there you go accusing them of seeking $$$ over justice. Your opinion is definitely not based on love, compassion, fondness, or direct knowledge of the issue.

What is left is hate, ignorance, and a cruelty that knows no bounds.

your opinion.

No hate, ignorance or cruelt involved.
Its the timing and out of court settlement that is in question.
 
Wrong.

It should be for Excon to decide. And only Excon, nobody else. Everybody here knows that.

Duh! :doh

Would you like me to call the whaaambulance for you because you don't like the evidence or what it says?
 
Accusing the Martin family of seeking $$$ over justice for their murdered son without even knowing them or having a conversation directly with them about the issue is based on what exactly? Clearly, it is not based on the details, as none have been revealed.

All we know so far is a black family received some $$$, and there you go accusing them of seeking $$$ over justice. Your opinion is definitely not based on love, compassion, fondness, or direct knowledge of the issue.

What is left is hate, ignorance, and a cruelty that knows no bounds.

It is self-evident now that they've waived pre-trial immunity that they can't prove the admitted killer's innocence, so all they have left is to smear innocent people who weren't even involved on the night of Feb. 26th.
 
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