Question for M's supporters....

joko104 · Oct 8, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
It's ethnic baiting just because you think it is. It is Zimmerman's name in Spanish, which has been thoroughly proven. And it's not my fault that the thread topic becomes about ethnic baiting, it's yours. It's not my fault you're so confused, that you think I'm ethnic baiting for simply using Jorge's name which he uses himself. That's your problem, not mine. I've asked you to stop and stick to the thread topic, but you refuse.

What I find most revealing, and quite hypocritical, is how you never became so gripped with complaints over anyone referring to Trayvon as no_limit_nigga ... a name he too called himself. I haven't seen every post you ever made, but I'm pretty certain I've never seen you complain once. No less harass anyone to the extent you harass me.

Oh well, nothing I can do about that other than to ask you once again to talk about the forum topic and not me.

George Zimmerman is NOT Spanish. He is NOT Mexican. His name is NOT spelled "Jorge."

You want to continue to post messages declaring that GZ's ethnicity is related to your attacks against him. It is appropriate every times you do so to challenge and disagree with those messages of yours. YOU are the one posting the same ethnic sneering and declarations ON EVERY THREAD and virtually every message, trying to derail ALL topics to ethnic sneering and your view of the relevancy of GZ's ethnicity on every topic, comment and message made by anyone.

joko104 · Oct 8, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
I don't know, and unless you've seen it, neither do you.

Still, irrelevant. He speaks Spanish and in Spanish, his name is Jorge.

Wrong. In Spanish, it's Jorge. He said so himself ...

"Hola, les habla Jorge Zimmerman." ~ Jorge Zimmerman

... but it's cute watching the 'Trayvon is no_limit_nigga' crowd go berserk when someone refers to a name Zimmerman uses for himself. :2dancing:

Well then lucky for me, Jorge is not a member, huh?

Well that's just beyond stupid as of course there's another reason. I've left clues all over the place as to what it is. I can't say I'm surprised you haven't figured it out though.

Since you do not use "no_limit_nigga" which is how TM referred to himself on the Internet - AND WE ARE ON THE INTERNET - proves you do not even believe your own rationality. In fact, it was you who, over half a dozen times, posted that African Americans are the N-word, posting it as many as 3 times in one message, confirming how much joy you find in using ethnical and racial slurs in your messages.

Since YOUR messages inject your ethnic slurring of GZ's name on every thread, every topic and virtually every message, not doing so in TM's own written words, disproved that there is any legitimate motive in your ethnic sneering messages whatsoever.

Sheik Yerbuti · Oct 8, 2012

joko104 said:
George Zimmerman is NOT Spanish.

I never said he was.

joko104 said:
He is NOT Mexican.

I never said he was.

joko104 said:
His name is NOT spelled "Jorge."

It is in Spanish...

Question: What is another word for George in Spanish?

Answer #1: Jorge is the spanish name for George

Answer #2: Jorge. Welcome to the forum.

What is another word for George in Spanish? | SpanishDict Answers

joko104 said:
You want to continue to post messages declaring that GZ's ethnicity is related to your attacks against him. It is appropriate every times you do so to challenge and disagree with those messages of yours. YOU are the one posting the same ethnic sneering and declarations ON EVERY THREAD and virtually every message, trying to derail ALL topics to ethnic sneering and your view of the relevancy of GZ's ethnicity on every topic, comment and message made by anyone.

I am incapable of derailing any topic as I'm not the one bitching and moaning about it. All you have to do is stop bitching and moaning and the thread does not get derailed. This is on you buddy, not me.

Sheik Yerbuti · Oct 8, 2012

joko104 said:
Since you do not use "no_limit_nigga" which is how TM referred to himself on the Internet - AND WE ARE ON THE INTERNET - proves you do not even believe your own rationality. In fact, it was you who, over half a dozen times, posted that African Americans are the N-word, posting it as many as 3 times in one message, confirming how much joy you find in using ethnical and racial slurs in your messages.

Since YOUR messages inject your ethnic slurring of GZ's name on every thread, every topic and virtually every message, not doing so in TM's own written words, disproved that there is any legitimate motive in your ethnic sneering messages whatsoever.

Complete nonsense. I don't call Trayvon, 'no_limit_nigga,' because I find the term offensive. If that was Jorge's nickname, I would not use it for the same reason. Whereas there is nothing offensive in calling Zimmerman, "Jorge," given that's his name in Spanish and he's Hispanic. And as you've been shown, Jorge himself uses that name when speaking Spanish. There is nothing wrong with that except in the minds of Jorge acolytes. TS.

"Hola, les habla Jorge Zimmerman" ~ Jorge Zimmerman

joko104 · Oct 9, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Complete nonsense. I don't call Trayvon, 'no_limit_nigga,' because I find the term offensive. If that was Jorge's nickname, I would not use it for the same reason. Whereas there is nothing offensive in calling Zimmerman, "Jorge," given that's his name in Spanish and he's Hispanic. And as you've been shown, Jorge himself uses that name when speaking Spanish. There is nothing wrong with that except in the minds of Jorge acolytes. TS.

"Hola, les habla Jorge Zimmerman" ~ Jorge Zimmerman

Why don't you write your whole messages in Spanish then, rather than just changing his name - as you see it - to the Spanish spelling? Why don't you change all your words to Spanish then?

Sheik Yerbuti · Oct 9, 2012

joko104 said:
Why don't you write your whole messages in Spanish then, rather than just changing his name - as you see it - to the Spanish spelling? Why don't you change all your words to Spanish then?

That would be a violation of forum rules.

joko104 · Oct 9, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
That would be a violation of forum rules.

So you only will break that rule to change Zimmerman's name? I guess that is how important you see to incessantly post messages stressing the person you are attacking is Hispanic.

JackFrost · Oct 9, 2012

joko104 said:
So you only will break that rule to change Zimmerman's name? I guess that is how important you see to incessantly post messages stressing the person you are attacking is Hispanic.

I have a co-worker named Jorge. He goes by Jorge or George. What does this mean

Sheik Yerbuti · Oct 9, 2012

joko104 said:
So you only will break that rule to change Zimmerman's name? I guess that is how important you see to incessantly post messages stressing the person you are attacking is Hispanic.

I don't believe using a single word in Spanish in a post made in English violates forum rules. I am certain if it does, the forum moderators will insist that I cease; though that hasn't happened yet. I believe the intent of the forum rule is to prevent entire posts being written in a foreign language. I am certainly not doing that.

joko104 · Oct 9, 2012

hawke812 said:
I have a co-worker named Jorge. He goes by Jorge or George. What does this mean

Maybe you should take Shiek's view and refuse to call him anything but "HorHay" 100% of the time and spell his name Jorge at all times because the only thing that matters about him to you and others should be that he is Hispanic. If he ever pronounces his name as "George" with English pronounciation, you to point out that he's a GD liar! He's a Spanish Hispanic and you're not going to take it his pretending otherwise.

BTW, that's really weird that he sometimes spells his name "Jorge" and sometimes "George" like you say he does.

mike2810 · Oct 9, 2012

I don't care if Zimmerman has a first name of George or Jorge. If that is the main debate issue now, TM supporters have hit a low in my opinion. Is it not time to move on to other questions/issues?

Sheik Yerbuti · Oct 9, 2012

hawke812 said:
I have a co-worker named Jorge. He goes by Jorge or George. What does this mean

You're confused because you don't think like a Zimmerman acolyte whose logic states that referring to Trayvon as 'no_limit_nigga' is perfectly acceptable but referring to Zimmerman as 'Jorge,' his actual name in Spanish, is racist, bigoted, slur against Hispanics, against forum rules, baiting, wrong, and not at all acceptable.

Of course, they have yet to provide a lucid response to this video where Zimmerman calls himself, 'Jorge...'

... About half way through ...

"Hola, les habla Jorge Zimmerman" ~ Jorge Zimmerman

:lamo :lamo :lamo

Sheik Yerbuti · Oct 9, 2012

mike2810 said:
I don't care if Zimmerman has a first name of George or Jorge. If that is the main debate issue now, TM supporters have hit a low in my opinion. Is it not time to move on to other questions/issues?

Seems your opinion is biased considering it's not the 'TM supporters' who are making this an issue. I myself have tried repeatedly to get the Zimmerman acolytes to stop their bitching and moaning and back onto the forum topic, but have had little success. Perhaps you can have more luck than I've had in that regard? Though it seems to me they're just making a lot of noise, hoping to get a forum moderators' attention with the hopes they can blame me for their uncontrollable outbursts.

JackFrost · Oct 9, 2012

mike2810 said:
I don't care if Zimmerman has a first name of George or Jorge. If that is the main debate issue now, TM supporters have hit a low in my opinion. Is it not time to move on to other questions/issues?

Sheik Yerbuti (a) = All Trayvon Martin Supporters (b)

All Trayvon Martin Supporters (b) = Sheik Yerbuti (a)

(a) = (b)

(b) = (a)

I believe there is a flaw in your logic. There has been only one user arguing this from the "Trayvon Martin" side as you call it:lol:

joko104 · Oct 9, 2012

mike2810 said:
I don't care if Zimmerman has a first name of George or Jorge. If that is the main debate issue now, TM supporters have hit a low in my opinion. Is it not time to move on to other questions/issues?

As soon as Shiek agrees that the issue of every single topic and message isn't that Zimmerman is Hispanic we most definitely have a deal.

joko104 · Oct 9, 2012

hawke812 said:
Sheik Yerbuti (a) = All Trayvon Martin Supporters (b)

All Trayvon Martin Supporters (b) = Sheik Yerbuti (a)

(a) = (b)

(b) = (a)

I believe there is a flaw in your logic. There has been only one user arguing this from the "Trayvon Martin" side as you call it:lol:

And I thank you for that. Why Shiek is stubbornly sticking to this I haven't a clue. Its offensive. Its inaccurate. I think its baiting messages, and he should just use his legal name that is the name everyone uses including the media and press. He has given no reason for not doing so in nearly all his messages other than - at best - to be annoying in messages. He he shifted to "Zimmerman," I posted a thank you and gave him a like. Finally, we just move on. I think it may just be attention seeking messages?

I also understand this isn't an issue to many GZ people, but does a person really just rightly walk past someone attaching ethnicity to every single message attacking that person? Or ongoingly condemn those messages? It is not different if for every negative statement about TM, I prefaced it with "black." Black TM was on his 3rd suspension, the black 17 TM used pot... and every time I posted anything negative I always pointed out he's black?

You, everyone, would realized what I was doing and why. I think it would be correct to condemn all those messages as wrong and inaccurate because TM's race has exactly nothing to do with those character condemnations.

joko104 · Oct 9, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
You're confused because you don't think like a Zimmerman acolyte whose logic states that referring to Trayvon as 'no_limit_nigga' is perfectly acceptable but referring to Zimmerman as 'Jorge,' his actual name in Spanish, is racist, bigoted, slur against Hispanics, against forum rules, baiting, wrong, and not at all acceptable.

Of course, they have yet to provide a lucid response to this video where Zimmerman calls himself, 'Jorge...'

... About half way through ...

"Hola, les habla Jorge Zimmerman" ~ Jorge Zimmerman

:lamo :lamo :lamo

Again hysterically laughing at what you see as ethnic humor and bigoted messages and logic.

Actually, NO ONE refers to TM as "no_limit_nigga" in all their messages and only you found excuse to post the N-word over and over and over for it.

There is exactly only one person - on both sides and neutrals - who attaches ethnicity to all your messages. That tells the story, unless they are also attention whoring messages.

mike2810 · Oct 9, 2012

I was being general. So you got me on that.

It does not negate that the spelling of Zimmerman's first name is a lame topic (imo).

joko104 · Oct 9, 2012

mike2810 said:
I was being general. So you got me on that.

It does not negate that the spelling of Zimmerman's first name is a lame topic (imo).

Fair enough and I may start dealing with this in a different way, ie the way I deal with people who use a lot of bigotry when they talk as if it is clever.

mike2810 · Oct 9, 2012

joko104 said:
Fair enough and I may start dealing with this in a different way, ie the way I deal with people who use a lot of bigotry when they talk as if it is clever.

The only reason I even responded to it in the first place was not because of you. Seems someone else seems to make it an issue. SY should move on to something else (imo).

You actually have been more patient than I would have been.

Sheik Yerbuti · Oct 9, 2012

joko104 said:
Again hysterically laughing at what you see as ethnic humor and bigoted messages and logic.

Actually, NO ONE refers to TM as "no_limit_nigga" in all their messages and only you found excuse to post the N-word over and over and over for it.

There is exactly only one person - on both sides and neutrals - who attaches ethnicity to all your messages. That tells the story, unless they are also attention whoring messages.

To be clear, since you obviously don't get it ... I am not laughing at any supposed ehtnic humor or bigotry ... I'm laughing at you because despite your chronic bitching & moaning, I am easily able to produce a video of Jorge calling himself, 'Jorge'.

:lamo :lamo :lamo

As far as getting attention, that would be your doing. All you have to do is stop bringing attention to it. I've asked you to stop, but apparently, you remain eager to shower me with attention. :shrug: