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    Question What Happened?

    I don't have a clue what this controversy is all about. Can you recommend a short summary I can read, so I can make some sense of the threads here?

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    Re: What Happened?

    The Miami Herald has several 2 page summaries..

    They tend to just report not speculate. If you read a couple of those, I think you will be mostly up to speed.

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    Re: What Happened?

    Pinky:

    See Miami Herald.. SEVEN DEADLY MINUTES.

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    Re: What Happened?

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Pinky:

    See Miami Herald.. SEVEN DEADLY MINUTES.
    The title should read....

    Concern Citizen Able To Stave Off Imminent Death.
    Last edited by ric27; 07-29-12 at 03:00 PM.

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    Re: What Happened?

    man angrily stalks a minor, who thinks looks like all the other past burglars in his area.

    man than refuses to ask why he is following the minor, when minor asks him "why are you following me?"

    physical altercation ensues, man ends up shooting the minor in the heart.

    these are the only facts we know.

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    Re: What Happened?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    man angrily stalks a minor, who thinks looks like all the other past burglars in his area.

    man than refuses to ask why he is following the minor, when minor asks him "why are you following me?"

    physical altercation ensues, man ends up shooting the minor in the heart.

    these are the only facts we know.
    Pinkie, don't buy his rantings for one moment.
    They are convoluted as well as wrong!
    Find the articles and read them yourself and draw you own conclusions.

    Most of those with a level head and clear of though understand that Zimmerman acted in self-defense.

    Don't take my word for it read the articles. And then investigate. Look at the actual evidence.
    Last edited by Excon; 07-29-12 at 03:33 PM.

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    Re: What Happened?

    just google "zimmerman martin", you'll get more than enough info to read.

    But I suggest you stay away from blogs, especially liberal ones, if you want the facts without a bunch of baseless, irrelevant speculation mixed in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Hey pbrauer, I am willing to put my ability to make politically neutral media observations to the test, and was wondering if you would be willing to do the same?
    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    No thanks, Grim.
    NUFF SAID!

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    Re: What Happened?

    go to Wikipedia. you will get lots of details there.

    but stay away from Conservative blogs and news sites, as they will mostly provide bias & lies.

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    Re: What Happened?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    go to Wikipedia. you will get lots of details there.

    but stay away from Conservative blogs and news sites, as they will mostly provide bias & lies.
    I agree... Wikipedia is the most unbiased source I've found so far.

    Shooting of Trayvon Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Hey pbrauer, I am willing to put my ability to make politically neutral media observations to the test, and was wondering if you would be willing to do the same?
    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    No thanks, Grim.
    NUFF SAID!

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    Re: What Happened?

    Tragic Scenarios


    excerpt:

    We start with Zimmerman spotting Martin on the way back from the convenience store and concluding that he seems “suspicious” in light of recent burglaries. Maybe it’s just because he’s an unfamiliar black teenager and Zimmerman is applying a racist stereotype, or maybe there’s something else that Zimmerman misunderstands—the boy is walking slowly to prolong the trip home while he talks to his girlfriend, which on a rainy night, Zimmerman perceives as someone “casing” houses.

    Failing to understand how creepy his own slow-motion monitoring of the teen from his SUV seems, Zimmerman takes it as a further confirmation of his suspicions when Martin breaks into a run.

    Stupidly disregarding the 911 dispatcher’s advice, Zimmerman gets out of his car to ensure he can point the boy out to police when they arrive. After all, he thinks, if this is the guy who’s been breaking into local houses, it would be crazy to let him slip away to strike again, and he only intends to get a closer look and maybe ask a few questions. This would be dumb, but not inherently criminal. He either approaches Martin, or Martin himself finally decides to confront this determined stranger to demand an explanation for why he’s being followed. Zimmerman, in turn, demands to know “what he’s doing in the neighborhood,” meaning “explain what I regard as suspicious behavior.”

    Martin seems visibly edgy—as you would be with a creepy stranger tailing you!—and maybe Zimmerman simultaneously exposes the holstered firearm, hoping it will deter the teen from trying anything.

    But Martin isn’t connecting the question with the recent spate of break-ins, which he has no reason to know about: What he hears is a threat from an armed and menacing stranger who has been stalking him from his vehicle, and now sounds angry to see a black teenager in “his” neighborhood. And when Zimmerman exposes the gun, Martin reasonably concludes that he’s about to become the victim of a hate crime.He could run—but he won’t outrun a bullet, and risks being shot in the back. It seems like his only chance is to disable and disarm this nut before he can draw the weapon.

    It’s a risky gambit, but in another few seconds, Zimmerman will have time to draw the gun and fire, so Martin doesn’t see any other good options. Making a split-second decision, the football player goes for the tackle, thinking he can get the gun away and hold this creep for police.

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