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Zimmerman claims judge is biased, wants him replaced

justabubba

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Zimmerman claims judge is biased, wants him replaced
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"Mr. Zimmerman has a reasonable fear that he cannot get a fair trial or a fair stand-your-ground hearing by this court," O'Mara wrote. "The court makes gratuitous, disparaging remarks about Mr. Zimmerman's character; advocates for Mr. Zimmerman to be prosecuted for additional crimes; offers a personal opinion about the evidence for said prosecution; and continues to hold over Mr. Zimmerman's head the threat of future contempt proceedings.​
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O'Mara argues that Lester, in his prior statements about the strength of the prosecution's case, showed bias toward convicting Zimmerman. "The court spent a lot of time and a lot of words crafting an order that was harsh and morally indignant in tone yet wholly fails to address one of the most important criteria in fashioning reasonable bail … the compelling evidence showing that the defendant has a viable, credible claim of self defense.
"Mr. Zimmerman fears that the court has already decided that he is not worthy of belief regardless of the type of proceeding or the corroborating evidence that would support his testimony," O'Mara wrote.​
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excellent move by o'mara
 
Rotfl!!! Lester's performance has been exceptional and this is nothing but a smokescreen because Omara knows he has no chance of convincing Lester GZ can be a credible witness. Omara has made the most disparaging remarks about his own client by admitting he lied, giving an ignorant excuse, and saying be can be trusted "most" of the time.

This move is not a surprise and he will never win on this at all.

Part of Lester's required job was to assess the strength of the evidence against GZ.

This is so dam funny!!! Lester gave him bail twice when he didn't have to even after GZ lied but Lester is biased against him......Omara is sinking fast and is looking for a way out of this case.
 
Thunder said:
he might not talke too kindly to the idea that GZ was right to profile TM, as a young black male.
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but we have found out that it has been determined no such profiling was evident
 
Thunder said:
he might not talke too kindly to the idea that GZ was right to profile TM, as a young black male.
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and you believe a black judge would be more concerned about this than a judge of a different race; why?
 
Thunder said:
be careful what you wish for, George...as the next judge might be black.
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A Black judge cannot be impartial?

Injecting racial overtones...yet again???
 
Thunder said:
no such thing has been determined
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Yes, it has

O’MARA: If I say to you the word ‘peanut butter’, what do you think?
GILBREATH: Jelly.
O’MARA: OK, ‘Moe, Larry’ and
GILBREATH: Curly.
O’MARA: OK, when I say the word ‘profiling’, what do you think?
GILBREATH: I believe you’re applying a predetermined thought pattern to a set of circumstances.
O’MARA: No other word comes to mind when I say ‘profiled’ to you?
GILBREATH: I gave you my answer, sir.
O’MARA: OK, I appreciate the answer. Did you consider it to be some specific type of profiling?
GILBREATH: No.
O’MARA: Why did you use the word ‘profiling’ rather than ‘noticed’, ‘observed’, ‘saw’, or anything besides the very precise word ‘profiled’? And by the way, was that your word?
GILBREATH: I don’t recall. This was a collaborative answer — excuse me, collaborative document.
O’MARA: Between who in addition to the two people who signed it as being true?
GILBREATH: Detective Osteen and I prepared the majority of this. It was reviewed by our supervisor. There were several mistakes in it. They were corrected.
O’MARA: Do you know whose word ‘profiling’ was?
GILBREATH: No, I do not.
O’MARA: When you swore that to be true, what did you mean that to indicate?
GILBREATH: That Zimmerman saw Martin, formed an idea in his head and contacted the Sanford Police Department with no facts.
O’MARA: With no facts. And of course, you have available to you, Mr. Zimmerman’s statements, correct?
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Thunder said:
be careful what you wish for, George...as the next judge might be black.
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Now THAT'S racist. Shame on you.

Furiounova said:
Rotfl!!! Lester's performance has been exceptional and this is nothing but a smokescreen because Omara knows he has no chance of convincing Lester GZ can be a credible witness. Omara has made the most disparaging remarks about his own client by admitting he lied, giving an ignorant excuse, and saying be can be trusted "most" of the time.

This move is not a surprise and he will never win on this at all.

Part of Lester's required job was to assess the strength of the evidence against GZ.

This is so dam funny!!! Lester gave him bail twice when he didn't have to even after GZ lied but Lester is biased against him......Omara is sinking fast and is looking for a way out of this case.
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I don't know....I'm not sure he doesn't have a point. The judge did comment that the State had a strong case against GZ. I'm not at all sure he should have done that. It is not his job to evaluate and comment on the strength of the evidence. At least I don't think it is -- either before or during the trial.
 
justabubba said:
but we have found out that it has been determined no such profiling was evident
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Why? was it revealed it wasn't GZ who reported only blacks after moving there in 2009?
 
Thunder said:
be careful what you wish for, George...as the next judge might be black.
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I really don't see how that matters. Any competent judge should be able to set aside their personal feelings for the case, and administer the law impartially, regardless of color
 
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MaggieD said:
I would like to see a link saying that. I flat out don't believe it.
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It was what Serino stated in his request for capias charging GZ with manslaughter. Since you find it so hard to believe it must have some significance so once you see it is the fact Serino stated, what impact will it have?

It is in the first document dump and I believe it is page 43 of the PDF file but I will look again to be sure.

Looks like page 42 and it states:

"According to records checks, all of Zimmerman's suspicious persons calls while residing in the Retreat neighborhood have identified Black males as the subjects."

I strongly suggest not trying to defend him on the basis they were not residents.
 
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Furiounova said:
It's pretty cool Omara admitted GZ called the cops on TM with no facts.
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If he did say that, he was flat out wrong. The whole purpose of neighborhood watch is to calll for suspicious persons.
 
Furiounova said:
It was what Serino stated in his request for capias charging GZ with manslaughter. Since you find it so hard to believe it must have some significance so once you see it is the fact Serino stated, what impact will it have?

It is in the first document dump and I believe it is page 43 of the PDF file but I will look again to be sure.

Looks like page 42 and it states:

"According to records checks, all of Zimmerman's suspicious persons calls while residing in the Retreat neighborhood have identified Black males as the subjects."

I strongly suggest not trying to defend him on the basis they were not residents.
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I found your quote on some websites -- nothing about a document dump, though. So I don't get that Serino said it. ? (Maybe I stand corrected.) Link?
 
MaggieD said:
If he did say that, he was flat out wrong. The whole purpose of neighborhood watch is to calll for suspicious persons.
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How was he wrong to point out the fact GZ reported only blacks as suspicious since moving there? Is it possible there may be a connection between that and what happened the last Sunday TM ever saw?
 
MaggieD said:
I found your quote on some websites -- nothing about a document dump, though. So I don't get that Serino said it. ? (Maybe I stand corrected.) Link?
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It was in the first evidence batch in the Discovery file. all 183 pages. This is on 42 and on 43 is Serino saying GZ should be charged.

I'm a bit confused as to why you were quick to call it BS which means it has relevance but now that you know it is true, you say Serino was wrong because that's what NW is supposed to do?

Have you ever criticized GZ for not following NW rules?

Don't you think it's a bit odd he only reported blacks as suspicious?

He never saw a white guy he didn't know walking at 7pm just after it started raining?
 
Furiounova said:
He never saw a white guy he didn't know walking at 7pm just after it started raining?
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Did he see a white individual walking slowly in the rain looking in/at houses? Maybe you know something we don't.
 
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