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Why This Case?

sharon said:
I know I posted the story on some forum.. maybe here. Weird thing, the creep was wearing a hoodie when he was taken in to custody.
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He was wearing a hoodie? Then he must be innocent and arrested upon wrongful profiling by the police.
 
joko104 said:
He was wearing a hoodie? Then he must be innocent and arrested upon wrongful profiling by the police.
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I think they caught him the next day raping a 50 year old woman.. and there was something else.. I think there was a warrant out on him for something else.

You presume a great many things, joko.
 
joko104 said:
He was wearing a hoodie? Then he must be innocent and arrested upon wrongful profiling by the police.
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I own a Clemson sweatshirt with a hood, I think that counts as a hoodie? Gerardo Herrara started the hoodie mania part of this case I believe. I really wish the media would just go back to reporting the news and stop creating sensationalism for the sake of ratings.
 
Furiounova said:
seems you missed the point. the guy who did the killing was arrested. He wasn't taken out to lunch by the police department and given a key to the front door.
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The killing(s) were horrendous. People get shot everyday for all sorts of reasons, daily. People get shot when their right to shoot in self-defense is questioned, daily. Few elderly woman are raped to death in front of their husbands and have the incident attract no main stream media attention. It was reported in print in the small town it occurred and in the UK. In how many places was the Trevon shooting covered?

I must of missed your point because I still don't see it. He was arrested, yes. Who was it who got lunch and the keys to the victim's home?
 
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Airborne375 said:
I own a Clemson sweatshirt with a hood, I think that counts as a hoodie? Gerardo Herrara started the hoodie mania part of this case I believe. I really wish the media would just go back to reporting the news and stop creating sensationalism for the sake of ratings.
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He's referring to the stupid hype surrounding the hoodie after the case was underway.
 
Excon said:
But of course people do not want to believe that because it doesn't jibe with there personal; narratives.



I am kind of surprised this isn't being talked about.

Are you aware that Matt Gutman, the reporter for ABC with all the leaked insider information and special exclusive to DeeDee's original statements, was supposedly reassigned to a foreign correspondent role?
All after this little twitter exchange.

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Does anybody think they are connected?
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Wow, XCon. Just. Wow. I found this as well:

So we contacted the Sanford Police Department, the Public Information Officer and the Police Chief, and we explained how they can use the secured CCTV system to identify who accessed the footage and recorded it on their cell phone.

Now we know that recording was done by Lead Detective Chris Serino who was also the source of numerous exclusive ABC leaks.
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And this:

ABC’s Matt Gutman has exposed ABC to considerable litigation risk and has been reassigned to a foreign coorespondent role. He was shipped out of the country by ABC and tweeted this morning from Tel Aviv.

Everything Matt has reported on this issue is now suspect. Including the “exclusive” DeeDee recording interviews.
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Double thanks for pointing me here. This is downright spooky.

Update #30 – Leaker Chickens Come Home To Roost – George Zimmerman Case – Detective Chris Serino and ABC’s Matt Gutman BUSTED | The Last Refuge
 
It is a very odd connection to say the least.
And it kinda suggests that both, Serino and Gutman are actually being disciplined.
And when you look at everything else Gutman was the first to report... Something is fishy.
 
I am surprised that no one else is interested in this connection.

Ooops!
Thinking about the Traybots here...

I guess I am not surprised at all.
 
sharon said:
Everybody is out to make a buck... I guess. What other explanation can there be??
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Sure that can be an explanation.

But it should wise up everybody to the narrative that we were being sold, may not have been correct.
 
Excon said:
Sure that can be an explanation.

But it should wise up everybody to the narrative that we were being sold, may not have been correct.
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You mean George's narratives? I am not following you.
 
sharon said:
You mean George's narratives? I am not following you.
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Of course you don't follow.

Because the narrative being sold by Matt Gutman was the one you agree with. Duh!.
 
Excon said:
Of course you don't follow.

Because the narrative being sold by Matt Gutman was the one you agree with. Duh!.
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Leaked information is not necessarily inaccurate. The problem is that George has given 11 narratives.
 
Excon said:
Sure that can be an explanation.

But it should wise up everybody to the narrative that we were being sold, may not have been correct.
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Oh please. You won't even attempt to address the numerous contradictions in GZ's own first written statement so don't preach about not checking out the veracity of narratives.
 
Furiounova said:
Oh please. You won't even attempt to address the numerous contradictions in GZ's own first written statement so don't preach about not checking out the veracity of narratives.
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Oh please, is right.

You post some nonsense and you want me to address it.
How ridiculous.

There are no real contradictions.



And since you obviously do not follow the links and read them, I will provide more.


Some news agencies have reported that Sanford's lead investigator, Chris Serino, wanted Zimmerman charged with manslaughter that night but Wolfinger's office put a stop to it. The city of Sanford issued a statement saying that is not true.

Police did that night prepare an incident report that lists "manslaughter" as the possible crime being investigated, but in every case in which an officer prepares an incident report, he or she fills in that spot with some crime and statute number to allow the agency to properly report crime statistics to the FBI.

Two weeks ago, during an exclusive interview with the Sentinel, Lee disclosed certain details of the investigation and during that session, attended by Serino and others, Serino said his investigation turned up no reliable evidence that cast doubt on Zimmerman's account – that he had acted in self-defense.

"The best evidence we have is the testimony of George Zimmerman, and he says the decedent was the primary aggressor in the whole event," Serino told the Sentinel March 16. "Everything I have is adding up to what he says."

Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman: Trayvon Martin's family asks for Department of Justice review of State Attorney and police chief - Orlando Sentinel​
 
Excon said:
Oh please, is right.

You post some nonsense and you want me to address it.
How ridiculous.

There are no real contradictions.



And since you obviously do not follow the links and read them, I will provide more.


Some news agencies have reported that Sanford's lead investigator, Chris Serino, wanted Zimmerman charged with manslaughter that night but Wolfinger's office put a stop to it. The city of Sanford issued a statement saying that is not true.

Police did that night prepare an incident report that lists "manslaughter" as the possible crime being investigated, but in every case in which an officer prepares an incident report, he or she fills in that spot with some crime and statute number to allow the agency to properly report crime statistics to the FBI.

Two weeks ago, during an exclusive interview with the Sentinel, Lee disclosed certain details of the investigation and during that session, attended by Serino and others, Serino said his investigation turned up no reliable evidence that cast doubt on Zimmerman's account – that he had acted in self-defense.

"The best evidence we have is the testimony of George Zimmerman, and he says the decedent was the primary aggressor in the whole event," Serino told the Sentinel March 16. "Everything I have is adding up to what he says."

Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman: Trayvon Martin's family asks for Department of Justice review of State Attorney and police chief - Orlando Sentinel​
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you have never addressed any of the contradictions GZ gave in his first statement because all you do is pretend they don't exist. Just like you pretend it doesn't exist that Serino said GZ should be charged with manslaughter. basically, you are the archetype of GZ supporters because you don't even pretend to honestly address the facts.
 
Furiounova said:
you have never addressed any of the contradictions GZ gave in his first statement because all you do is pretend they don't exist. Just like you pretend it doesn't exist that Serino said GZ should be charged with manslaughter. basically, you are the archetype of GZ supporters because you don't even pretend to honestly address the facts.
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Now you are just lying.
Do you even read what you quote?
 
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Excon said:
Now you are just lying.
Do you even read what you quote?
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Somehow I can't even pretend to get upset when someone like you accuses me of lying. I already posted Serino's own words proving he wanted GZ charged with manslaughter.
 
Furiounova said:
Somehow I can't even pretend to get upset when someone like you accuses me of lying. I already posted Serino's own words proving he wanted GZ charged with manslaughter.
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What you posted was not put into context. And in this case context matters a great deal.
What you allegedly provided was done so the prosecution could take over the investigation. As you have been shown multiple times.


What Serino's personal opinion was, was provided by me.


Let me provide it again since you seem to want to ignore it.

Some news agencies have reported that Sanford's lead investigator, Chris Serino, wanted Zimmerman charged with manslaughter that night but Wolfinger's office put a stop to it. The city of Sanford issued a statement saying that is not true.

Police did that night prepare an incident report that lists "manslaughter" as the possible crime being investigated, but in every case in which an officer prepares an incident report, he or she fills in that spot with some crime and statute number to allow the agency to properly report crime statistics to the FBI.

Two weeks ago, during an exclusive interview with the Sentinel, Lee disclosed certain details of the investigation and during that session, attended by Serino and others, Serino said his investigation turned up no reliable evidence that cast doubt on Zimmerman's account – that he had acted in self-defense.

"The best evidence we have is the testimony of George Zimmerman, and he says the decedent was the primary aggressor in the whole event," Serino told the Sentinel March 16. "Everything I have is adding up to what he says."​


And you might want to reread , strike that, you might want to read the first paragraph, it might help you finally realize what you are saying is hokey.
 
Excon said:
What you posted was not put into context. And in this case context matters a great deal.
What you allegedly provided was done so the prosecution could take over the investigation. As you have been shown multiple times.


What Serino's personal opinion was, was provided by me.


Let me provide it again since you seem to want to ignore it.

Some news agencies have reported that Sanford's lead investigator, Chris Serino, wanted Zimmerman charged with manslaughter that night but Wolfinger's office put a stop to it. The city of Sanford issued a statement saying that is not true.

Police did that night prepare an incident report that lists "manslaughter" as the possible crime being investigated, but in every case in which an officer prepares an incident report, he or she fills in that spot with some crime and statute number to allow the agency to properly report crime statistics to the FBI.

Two weeks ago, during an exclusive interview with the Sentinel, Lee disclosed certain details of the investigation and during that session, attended by Serino and others, Serino said his investigation turned up no reliable evidence that cast doubt on Zimmerman's account – that he had acted in self-defense.

"The best evidence we have is the testimony of George Zimmerman, and he says the decedent was the primary aggressor in the whole event," Serino told the Sentinel March 16. "Everything I have is adding up to what he says."​


And you might want to reread , strike that, you might want to read the first paragraph, it might help you finally realize what you are saying is hokey.
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This is why people shouldn't rely on hacks like contreehouse for info. Serino filed the request for capias because, IN HIS OWN WORDS he said GZ should be charged with manslaughter.

Know what the sad part is? You have probably posted that article 20 times and you have never realized the fact Serino never said GZ did not break the law or that he was innocent of any crime.
 
Furiounova said:
This is why people shouldn't rely on hacks like contreehouse for info. Serino filed the request for capias because, IN HIS OWN WORDS he said GZ should be charged with manslaughter.

Know what the sad part is? You have probably posted that article 20 times and you have never realized the fact Serino never said GZ did not break the law or that he was innocent of any crime.
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How foolish.
Still can't back up what you say, so instead you want to try and demean the other. lol
Truly foolish.

I know exactly what it says, and I know exactly what it means.
And it is abundantly clear that you obviously do not.


Serino said his investigation turned up no reliable evidence that cast doubt on Zimmerman's account – that he had acted in self-defense.

"The best evidence we have is the testimony of George Zimmerman, and he says the decedent was the primary aggressor in the whole event," Serino told the Sentinel March 16. "Everything I have is adding up to what he says."​


Sorry you have difficulty in distinguishing between a procedural requirement and a persons actual opinion.
It is the last thing he states.

Saying such is an indication that it could not be proven that he broke the law, because why? Because no reliable evidence exists to cast doubt on Zimmerman's account – that he had acted in self-defense.

Like he said: "Everything I have is adding up to what he says."


And btw, this doesn't come from Conservativetreehouse.
 
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