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George Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury [W:324/432]

Re: George Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury

Do you always deny support to those who haven't?

In my estimation, she's clearly lying in the transcripts provided, based on details ascertained by the investigators.
 
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I would suggest you actually look at what she was asked in regards to an estimate.
Fortunately, I took you up on that suggestion before you even made it.
 
Re: George Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury

Fortunately, I took you up on that suggestion before you even made it.
NO you didn't.


Q: How much money is in that website right now? How much money as a result of that website was –

A: Currently, I do not know.

Q: Do you have an estimate as to how much money has already been obtained or collected?

A: I do not.




If you had, you would have seen that she answered those questions as asked.
She currently did not know.
And she didn't have an estimate.

The prosecution didn't ask the proper questions, such as;
Can you make an estimate?; or How much was in the account last time you checked?
 
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No question that she's a liar and was trying to pull a fast one.
Really? Where is the transcript proving such intent?

As far as we know it doesn't exist.
 
Re: George Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury

Really? Where is the transcript proving such intent?

As far as we know it doesn't exist.

George Zimmerman wife arrested: George Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury - Orlando Sentinel

Four days before she testified to having no knowledge of the funds, the affidavit says, Shellie Zimmerman began a series of transfers into her account — totaling $74,000 between April 16 and April 19.

The affidavit says about $47,000 more was transferred from George Zimmerman's account to his sister's. Shellie Zimmerman withdrew about $18,000 more cash, prosecutors say.


Prosecutors say the Zimmermans used a rudimentary "code" to discuss the money in recorded jailhouse phone calls — referring to $100,000, for example, as "$100." At least two of the calls, the state alleges, were made while Shellie Zimmerman and her husband's sister were at a local credit union making the transactions.

"In my account do I have at least $100?" Zimmerman asked. "No... there's like $8. $8.60," she replied.

Zimmerman told his wife to "pay off all the bills" with the money, prosecutors said, including an American Express card and a Sam's Club card. He also instructed her on how to pay for his bail.

According to the affidavit, after her husband was released on bond days after the bond hearing, she transferred more than $85,000 back into his account. A branch manager at their credit union told prosecutors he knew the couple, and saw Shellie Zimmerman talking to her husband on the phone on April 16.


She's a liar alright.................
 
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George Zimmerman wife arrested: George Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury - Orlando Sentinel

Four days before she testified to having no knowledge of the funds, the affidavit says, Shellie Zimmerman began a series of transfers into her account — totaling $74,000 between April 16 and April 19.

The affidavit says about $47,000 more was transferred from George Zimmerman's account to his sister's. Shellie Zimmerman withdrew about $18,000 more cash, prosecutors say.


Prosecutors say the Zimmermans used a rudimentary "code" to discuss the money in recorded jailhouse phone calls — referring to $100,000, for example, as "$100." At least two of the calls, the state alleges, were made while Shellie Zimmerman and her husband's sister were at a local credit union making the transactions.

"In my account do I have at least $100?" Zimmerman asked. "No... there's like $8. $8.60," she replied.

Zimmerman told his wife to "pay off all the bills" with the money, prosecutors said, including an American Express card and a Sam's Club card. He also instructed her on how to pay for his bail.

According to the affidavit, after her husband was released on bond days after the bond hearing, she transferred more than $85,000 back into his account. A branch manager at their credit union told prosecutors he knew the couple, and saw Shellie Zimmerman talking to her husband on the phone on April 16.


She's a liar alright.................
:doh
You must be confused again.
There is no intent to lie or deceive shown in what you provided.
 
Re: George Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury

:doh
You must be confused again.
There is no intent to lie or deceive shown in what you provided.

Don't quit your day job...............
 
Re: George Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury

NO you didn't.

Q: How much money is in that website right now? How much money as a result of that website was –

A: Currently, I do not know.

Q: Do you have an estimate as to how much money has already been obtained or collected?

A: I do not.

If you had, you would have seen that she answered those questions as asked.
She currently did not know.
And she didn't have an estimate.
The prosecution didn't ask the proper questions, such as;
Can you make an estimate?; or How much was in the account last time you checked?
lol
That's pretty funny.
Shellie was playing semantics games on the stand was she?

Obviously, the prosecution was trying to get her in trouble by asking such tricksey question. She was set up.
; )
 
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Shellie was playing semantics games on the stand was she?
No. She was answering the questions specifically as you are supposed to in a court of law.



Obviously, the prosecution was trying to get her in trouble by asking such tricksey question. She was set up.
; )
Do you know that they didn't?
They did have their recorded conversations from before the hearing.
 
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Don't quit your day job...............
Ahh... So you are confused again.

Making reply that has no bearing on what was said.


There is no intent to lie or deceive shown in what you provided.
Do you even understand what that means?

Or do you really not understand that an untruth can be said without any intent to lie or deceive?
 
Re: George Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury

No. She was answering the questions specifically as you are supposed to in a court of law.
Of course she was. She chose to use one of the meanings of "have" that would make her answer true instead of one of the more regular meanings.
Very, very clever way to avoid perjury. Kudos to her for her creativity and inventiveness.
Do you know that they didn't? They did have their recorded conversations from before the hearing.
^This^ is even funnier.
 
Re: George Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury

Of course she was. She chose to use one of the meanings of "have" that would make her answer true instead of one of the more regular meanings.
Very, very clever way to avoid perjury. Kudos to her for her creativity and inventiveness.
She offered to get her Brother in-law on the phone so he could give the correct answers. That shows that she did not intend to deceive.
And you are intelligent enough to know that.



^This^ is even funnier.
Whatever dude.
Keep playing your games.
 
Re: They just arrested Mrs Zimmerman for perjury

Breaking news in Florida. I hope we keep our 'Stand Your Ground Law' here. We need it as the crime rate is dropping.

What does that have to do with his wife being charged with perjury?
 
Re: They just arrested Mrs Zimmerman for perjury

I was assaulted and robbed 4 years ago in St Petersburg, FL.....I have a concealed weapon these days. Us older women who live alone need our protection. I had to have surgery for a subdural hematoma. I could have died. We badly need our 'Stand Your Ground Law' here. IT is not a RACIST ISSUE.

Unfortunately stand your ground laws INCREASE homicides but do not appear to deter violent crime, according to a new study.

Results indicate that the prospect of facing additional self-defense does not deter crime. *Specifically, we find no evidence of deterrence effects on burglary, robbery, or*aggravated assault. *Moreover, our estimates are sufficiently precise as to rule out*meaningful deterrence effects.

In contrast, we find significant evidence that the laws increase homicides. Suggestive but inconclusive evidence indicates that castle doctrine laws increase the narrowly defined category of justifiable homicides by private citizens by 17 to 50 percent, which translates into as many as 50 additional justifiable homicides per year nationally due to castle doctrine. More significantly, we find the laws increase murder and manslaughter by a statistically significant 7 to 9 percent, which translates into an additional 500 to 700 homicides per year nationally across the states that adopted castle doctrine.

Thus, by lowering the expected costs associated with using lethal force, castle doctrine laws induce more of it. This increase in homicides could be due either to the increased use of lethal force in self-defense situations, or to the escalation of violence in otherwise non-lethal conflicts. We suspect that self-defense situations are unlikely to explain all of the increase, as we also find that murder alone is increased by a statistically significant 6 to 11 percent.

Study Says ‘Stand Your Ground’ Laws Increase Homicides - Law Blog - WSJ
 
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Threads merged and please keep Zimmerman/Martin threads in the appropriate area
 
Re: They just arrested Mrs Zimmerman for perjury

What does that have to do with his wife being charged with perjury?

Nothing. Those Zimmermans are obviously low-life thugs who deserve to be put away.
 
Re: They just arrested Mrs Zimmerman for perjury

Nothing. Those Zimmermans are obviously low-life thugs who deserve to be put away.

Yeah! We have a couple of real desparados here. Huh?
 
Re: George Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury

Four days before she testified to having no knowledge of the funds, the affidavit says, Shellie Zimmerman began a series of transfers into her account — totaling $74,000 between April 16 and April 19.

The affidavit says about $47,000 more was transferred from George Zimmerman's account to his sister's. Shellie Zimmerman withdrew about $18,000 more cash, prosecutors say.

Prosecutors say the Zimmermans used a rudimentary "code" to discuss the money in recorded jailhouse phone calls — referring to $100,000, for example, as "$100." At least two of the calls, the state alleges, were made while Shellie Zimmerman and her husband's sister were at a local credit union making the transactions.

"In my account do I have at least $100?" Zimmerman asked. "No... there's like $8. $8.60," she replied.

Zimmerman told his wife to "pay off all the bills" with the money, prosecutors said, including an American Express card and a Sam's Club card. He also instructed her on how to pay for his bail.

According to the affidavit, after her husband was released on bond days after the bond hearing, she transferred more than $85,000 back into his account. A branch manager at their credit union told prosecutors he knew the couple, and saw Shellie Zimmerman talking to her husband on the phone on April 16.

The manager said he'd helped Shellie Zimmerman transfer control of George Zimmerman's account, at one point speaking directly to George Zimmerman by phone.

George Zimmerman wife arrested: George Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury - Orlando Sentinel

Doesn't sound like a vendetta to me........
She was asked how much was in the account...an account which the prosecution KNEW of and questioned her about. She said she didnt know how much was in the account and that the brother in law was the one to ask.

The personal investment so many people have in this case kinda proves the whole 'vendetta' thing. If they really wanted to know the total in the legal defense fund, why didnt they simply ask the brother in law...the one that KNEW the amounts? If HE said he didnt know or underestimated it...THEN you have a perjury charge.
 
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This judge is in on the fix. He ain't lettin' nothin' slide.

This will be one of the greatest travisties of justice in American history.

She was charged by the Attorney General, not the judge or Corey.
 
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My wife don't know how much money I have in Pay Pal.

This is a witch hunt.
 
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She offered to get her Brother in-law on the phone so he could give the correct answers. That shows that she did not intend to deceive.
And you are intelligent enough to know that.
Too bad the prosecutor doesn't see it that way too.
That mean ****er is just out to get little Shellie it seems.

I am not familiar with the perjury laws. Is intent to deceive a requirement?

Oh, btw, was her BiL available for the bond hearing when SZ offered to get him on the phone?

Whatever dude.
Keep playing your games.
The game where I obliquely accuse the prosecutor of misconduct w/o offering any evidence of such?

Or the one where I expect the obvious answers to be ruled out before venturing into the realm of conspiracy?
 
George Zimmerman's Wife Charged With Perjury

Shellie Zimmerman, the wife of the Florida man charged with fatally shooting Trayvon Martin, was arrested and charged Tuesday afternoon with one count of perjury, according to law enforcement officials.
The charges stem from what prosecutors have described as a series of lies and distortions made by the couple during an earlier bond hearing in April, when George Zimmerman and his family claimed they were broke. By late Tuesday afternoon, Shellie Zimmerman posted bond, set at $1,000.


Shellie Zimmerman Arrested: George Zimmerman's Wife Charged With Perjury
 
Re: George Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury

My wife don't know how much money I have in Pay Pal.
This is a witch hunt.
If your wife transferred funds from your paypal account, could she give an estimate of how much money was in your paypal account?
 
Re: They just arrested Mrs Zimmerman for perjury

What does that have to do with his wife being charged with perjury?

We need the 'Stand Your Ground Law' in FLORIDA. It is all related to the Zimmerman case. I will certainly stand my ground in this state no matter what you think. lololol
 
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