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Cops, Witnesses Back Up George Zimmerman's Version - ABC News
Oh yeah, everything seems to back up Zimmerman's version. Don't matter they actually do or not even by the writings of their own reporting.
BTW, there's no such thing as MMA style punches. Punches are punches. MMA means mixed martial arts. You can use any style of martial arts or create your own street fighting style in the competition as long as you abide by the rules. And there are rules, you know. Not any bloody murderous tactics you can just throw in.
Of course, if you are Zimmerman you can fight like a bitch or just lay there screaming like one, but MMA rules say no scratching like a cat in heat, no pulling hairs and certainly no pulling trigger if you happens to lose the fight. Also, no slamming of head or place hands over mouth and nose stuffs. If Martin used that, he couldn’t be MMA trained or be identified as one, could he? It’s ingrained in them during training.
Sounds a lot like the witness who is known only as "John". But, there's a difference. The witness "John" told the reporter he witnessed the event outside, saw the guy wearing a red sweater on the bottom yelling to him for help. He then told him to stop and said he would call 911. Then went into his house, locked the porch door and on the way to the second floor heard the "pop" sound.
If this witness is "John", then he got some explanation to do here.
Anyway, this witness is extraordinary. Between the screaming and the shot, the whole episode lasted only about 48 seconds give or take a few more seconds, and this guy could discern so quickly from his living room not only the style of punches but also the race of the party involved when it was very dark outside that even some eyewitnesses reported they couldn't even see much out there that night.
Also, what I always find it interesting is that there are people, including the Sanford police chief from day one, who always claim that all witness accounts appear to back up Zimmerman's version of what happened and supported his self-defense claim.
Really?
The only punch I heard Zimmerman took was when he was still standing. After that he was on the ground where his head was repeatedly slammed into the concrete. Then at one point (or is it another version?) Martin put one hand on his mouth and the other hand on his nose. Remember, slamming head or putting hands on nose and mouth are prohibited by MMA and none of the witnesses ever corroborated Zimmerman’s account. So, tell me folks, how do the witness accounts corroborated and supported Zimmerman’s story? How?
So, how does that corroborated or supported Zimmerman's story or even claim of self-defense?
A self-defense in this case would be for Zimmerman to react and respond to punches with blocks and punches as a first measure. Even a small lady when faced with an assailant would put up a live or death fight with frantic hitting, kicking, biting and scratching to save her soul. Zimmerman, with a background of being a bouncer or security guard and had once thrown a drunken lady across the room could at least be able to do that, couldn’t he?
But, from what we’ve heard Zimmerman didn’t even do any of that. Not even putting so much of a dent, a scratch, a bite or a bruise in Martin’s body except a smal skin abrasion on the one finger below the knuckle of Martin‘s left hand. That's not putting up a resistance let alone a physical fight as the first measure.
All we heard is that his head was repeatedly slammed into the concrete or his mouth and nose were covered and all he did was screaming for help. The next thing he did, according to account attributed to him was of course to pull the trigger or something to that effect and killed Martin. How convincingly convenient. If there is evidence this isn’t true, that he did physically fight back within that forty something seconds while he was screaming for help, please post the link to the source.
So, in this thread shall we address the following questions:
1. Are you able to shoot to kill some unarmed individual and then claimed self-defense if somebody just punches you MMA style?
2. In an unarmed combat, can a person simply claimed he repeatedly screamed for help while passively laying there being beaten and nobody came to help and for that reason alone he could just draw his weapon and shoot to kill? Is there no requirement that he fought back physically when able to and exhausted all possible measures before resorting to use of lethal weapon only if his life is in imminent danger?
3. Is sustaining a broken nose and some cuts and abrasions to the head with no concussion and no other serious injuries that usually seen in regular non-lethal street fights rises to the level of killing in self-defense?
Throwing punches MMA style huh? Hear that? MMA style!!! Gotta hand it to this eyewitness with such an overactive imagination.
Oh yeah, everything seems to back up Zimmerman's version. Don't matter they actually do or not even by the writings of their own reporting.
BTW, there's no such thing as MMA style punches. Punches are punches. MMA means mixed martial arts. You can use any style of martial arts or create your own street fighting style in the competition as long as you abide by the rules. And there are rules, you know. Not any bloody murderous tactics you can just throw in.
Of course, if you are Zimmerman you can fight like a bitch or just lay there screaming like one, but MMA rules say no scratching like a cat in heat, no pulling hairs and certainly no pulling trigger if you happens to lose the fight. Also, no slamming of head or place hands over mouth and nose stuffs. If Martin used that, he couldn’t be MMA trained or be identified as one, could he? It’s ingrained in them during training.
Sounds a lot like the witness who is known only as "John". But, there's a difference. The witness "John" told the reporter he witnessed the event outside, saw the guy wearing a red sweater on the bottom yelling to him for help. He then told him to stop and said he would call 911. Then went into his house, locked the porch door and on the way to the second floor heard the "pop" sound.
If this witness is "John", then he got some explanation to do here.
Anyway, this witness is extraordinary. Between the screaming and the shot, the whole episode lasted only about 48 seconds give or take a few more seconds, and this guy could discern so quickly from his living room not only the style of punches but also the race of the party involved when it was very dark outside that even some eyewitnesses reported they couldn't even see much out there that night.
Also, what I always find it interesting is that there are people, including the Sanford police chief from day one, who always claim that all witness accounts appear to back up Zimmerman's version of what happened and supported his self-defense claim.
Really?
The only punch I heard Zimmerman took was when he was still standing. After that he was on the ground where his head was repeatedly slammed into the concrete. Then at one point (or is it another version?) Martin put one hand on his mouth and the other hand on his nose. Remember, slamming head or putting hands on nose and mouth are prohibited by MMA and none of the witnesses ever corroborated Zimmerman’s account. So, tell me folks, how do the witness accounts corroborated and supported Zimmerman’s story? How?
So, how does that corroborated or supported Zimmerman's story or even claim of self-defense?
A self-defense in this case would be for Zimmerman to react and respond to punches with blocks and punches as a first measure. Even a small lady when faced with an assailant would put up a live or death fight with frantic hitting, kicking, biting and scratching to save her soul. Zimmerman, with a background of being a bouncer or security guard and had once thrown a drunken lady across the room could at least be able to do that, couldn’t he?
But, from what we’ve heard Zimmerman didn’t even do any of that. Not even putting so much of a dent, a scratch, a bite or a bruise in Martin’s body except a smal skin abrasion on the one finger below the knuckle of Martin‘s left hand. That's not putting up a resistance let alone a physical fight as the first measure.
All we heard is that his head was repeatedly slammed into the concrete or his mouth and nose were covered and all he did was screaming for help. The next thing he did, according to account attributed to him was of course to pull the trigger or something to that effect and killed Martin. How convincingly convenient. If there is evidence this isn’t true, that he did physically fight back within that forty something seconds while he was screaming for help, please post the link to the source.
So, in this thread shall we address the following questions:
1. Are you able to shoot to kill some unarmed individual and then claimed self-defense if somebody just punches you MMA style?
2. In an unarmed combat, can a person simply claimed he repeatedly screamed for help while passively laying there being beaten and nobody came to help and for that reason alone he could just draw his weapon and shoot to kill? Is there no requirement that he fought back physically when able to and exhausted all possible measures before resorting to use of lethal weapon only if his life is in imminent danger?
3. Is sustaining a broken nose and some cuts and abrasions to the head with no concussion and no other serious injuries that usually seen in regular non-lethal street fights rises to the level of killing in self-defense?
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