Thread: George Zimmerman: Prelude to a shooting

Originally Posted by vendur

Wow, a whole 4 minutes. I bet he was reading war and peace and writing a dissertation on particle physics between wheezing for breaths.He was trying to see where Martin was going and then returned to his vehicle after the being told he "didn't have to do that". Is there a point here somewhere?

Seems you're in agreement with me that he was looking for Trayvon and not for a street sign. I also see no evidence that he returned to his car because the 911 dispatcher advised him not to follow but because he gave up his search for Trayvon.

Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti

Seems you're in agreement with me that he was looking for Trayvon and not for a street sign. I also see no evidence that he returned to his car because the 911 dispatcher advised him not to follow but because he gave up his search for Trayvon.

So why did the "running motion noises" stop seconds after he was told "we don't need you to do that"?I still don't know what your point is.

What do you mean by "street sign"?

Do you mean a street address sign on a residence? Or one of those things on the corner, or what?

Originally Posted by Sig

Originally Posted by Excon

Apparently you don't.

And talk about grasping to the extreme.
There is no "in other words" there.

He wasn't the aggressor.
Trayvon was.
And no evidence exists to say he confronted Trayvon, but that Trayvon confronted him and the attacked.

How about the evidence that he got out of his vehicle and walked a considerable distance into the path of Martin?

...or is it your contention that Martin dragged Zimmerman from his vehicle to the spot where the incident occurred?

lol
How do you figure that is evidence of Zimmerman confronting Trayvon?

Zimmerman was heading back to his vehicle because he had lost him when Trayvon came from behind and confronted Zimmerman, in what you call a considerable distance.
Do you not understand what that signifies?
Trayvon was nowhere to be seen by Zimmerman because Trayvon was hiding.
And instead of continuing to hide, as a scared person would, he decided to confront Zimmerman after he turned around to head back to his vehicle.
If it did occur like this, then it is more than reasonable to assume that Trayvon most likely would have done the same after Zimmerman passed the location he was hiding in. He would have came from behind to confront him. That is called "lying in wait".

Originally Posted by vendur

So why did the "running motion noises" stop seconds after he was told "we don't need you to do that"?I still don't know what your point is.

Because he stopped running. And it was more like 20 seconds later and likely to losing sight of Trayvon than heeding the advice by the 911 dispatcher.

And the point is ... I believe Zimmerman is lying when he says he was looking for a street sign. I believe he was looking for Trayvon, not for a street sign on the very street on which he lived and patrolled. I didn't expect it, but you apparently agree with me as the only real answer you gave was looking for Trayvon.

Originally Posted by Muhammed

What do you mean by "street sign"?

Do you mean a street address sign on a residence? Or one of those things on the corner, or what?

According to one of the lead investigators, Zimmerman said he went to look for a street sign.

GILBREATH: He says that he continued on to find a street sign and then went back to his car.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...20/cnr.02.html

I'm just trying to figure out a) why he was looking for a street sign on the street he lived and patrolled? And b) why did that take as long as 4 minutes?

I think it's a huge sucking head wound in his story.

Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti

According to one of the lead investigators, Zimmerman said he went to look for a street sign.

GILBREATH: He says that he continued on to find a street sign and then went back to his car.

CNN.com - Transcripts

I'm just trying to figure out a) why he was looking for a street sign on the street he lived and patrolled? And b) why did that take as long as 4 minutes?

I think it's a huge sucking head wound in his story.

Is it not possible he was continuing to the next street over to find the name and was on his way back to his truck when Trayvon attacked/whatever?

Originally Posted by buck

Is it not possible he was continuing to the next street over to find the name and was on his way back to his truck when Trayvon attacked/whatever?

What would cause you to worry about that? Zimmerman needs to show that he was the victim of an unprovoked attack and that he was defending himself. Why convolute the water with this nonsense?

Originally Posted by whysoserious

What would cause you to worry about that? Zimmerman needs to show that he was the victim of an unprovoked attack and that he was defending himself. Why convolute the water with this nonsense?

I'm not worried and don't think it's really relevant to the issue. Just figured I could take a second or two to point out there are possibilities that Sheik apparently hadn't thought of.

Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti

Because he stopped running. And it was more like 20 seconds later and likely to losing sight of Trayvon than heeding the advice by the 911 dispatcher.

And the point is ... I believe Zimmerman is lying when he says he was looking for a street sign. I believe he was looking for Trayvon, not for a street sign on the very street on which he lived and patrolled. I didn't expect it, but you apparently agree with me as the only real answer you gave was looking for Trayvon.

What you believe is not a factor in this case. What can you prove?