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Trayvon Martin: ABC enhances George Zimmerman video .... "Pair of Gashes or Welts"

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ABC News has re-digitized video of George Zimmerman taken shortly after Trayvon Martin's shooting.

The video was unveiled as an exclusive this morning on "Good Morning America." ABC was the first news organization to show the original tape.

Reporter Matt Gutman said the clearer video shows "what appear to be a pair of gashes or welts on George Zimmerman's head."

Neighborhood Watch volunteer Zimmerman has said he shot 17-year-old Trayvon in self-defense. The video shows Zimmerman arriving at the Sanford Police Department within an hour after the shooting.

Gutman said the video had been "clarified" by Forensic Protection Inc. Former FBI Special Agent Brad Garrett told ABC that the clearer video shows "marks on the back of Mr. Zimmerman's head."

Trayvon Martin: ABC enhances George Zimmerman video - Orlando Sentinel
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Here is a photo from ABC

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And another article where the new ABC report video can be found:

ABC NEWS: Enhanced Zimmerman Video Shows Injury to Head

Point being, the original article last week, and all the uninformed crap in a thread about it, was just that. Nonense.
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
Here is a photo from ABC

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And another article where the new ABC report video can be found:

ABC NEWS: Enhanced Zimmerman Video Shows Injury to Head

Point being, the original article last week, and all the uninformed crap in a thread about it, was just that. Nonense.
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And now we will hear, "Well, it doesn't make any difference anyway."

I'm glad to see that some of the media has taken a bit of interest in Zimmerman's side of the story.
 
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MaggieD said:
And now we will hear, "Well, it doesn't make any difference anyway."

I'm glad to see that some of the media has taken a bit of interest in Zimmerman's side of the story.
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Hey Maggie. I haven't been posting much, as I have had a squabble or two with the Mods. I live about 90 miles from Sanford, so I get plenty on this story, although its been mainstream everywhere.

We all want justice. What we have gotten though is BS. Not from law enforcement, but from the scum liberal media, and most of the black community.

ABC ran the original bogus and incorrect analysis last week, with only a grainy and edited video. NBC deliberately edited the 911 Zimmerman call. These were not accidents. These were not basic and prudent editing of media for time. It was all bull**** so as to hype this as a racial incident, where racism provoked the death of a 17 year old. Not a concerned citizen who was attacked. And not stupidity by an over-anxious Community Watch wannabee. Racism what done it, because that best fed the political frenzy that some hoped for and needed.

Duke Lacrosse part deux.
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
Duke Lacrosse part deux.
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Sounds more and more that this is EXACTLY what is going on here.

Meanwhile, Jesse and Al are setting back race relations 100 years. Good for their respective businesses, I suppose.
 
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We all want justice.
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Not all. Some people want the truth. Some people see justice as killing Zimmerman. Truth, justice, and vengeance. People don't seem to grasp the differences between the words. (not saying you at all). Many people don't give a crap either way. Shapton and Jackson, in my opinion, would rather see Zimmerman walk so they can to continue to exploit Martin and his family for their own political gain. Countless people are using this to promote themselves and profit from it. Very few want the truth. Very few would be willing to accept that Zimmerman acted in self defense if that turns out to be the case. They only want "justice".
 
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NBC has monkeyed with the evidence too.

"Reacting angrily to selective editing by NBC that suggested racial animus by George Zimmerman, NewsBusters publisher Brent Bozell complained to Fox News's Sean Hannity last night that NBC News was engaged in an "all-out falsehood." The story in question was a March 27 Ron Allen report on NBC's 'Today' in which 911 audio was edited to make it sound like George Zimmerman said "he looks black" immediately after saying "this guy looks like he's up to no good."

In the actual 911 audio, Zimmerman only described Martin's race after the dispatcher asked, "And this guy: is he white, black, or Hispanic?" "To edit that out is so distorting," Hannity complained. "Sean, it's not distorting, it's advancing a falsehood, it's worse," Bozell corrected the Fox News anchor."

‘He Looks Black’: NBC Launching Investigation into Selective Editing of Zimmerman Police Tape | Video | TheBlaze.com

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"And it’s a falsehood with repercussions. Much of the public discussion over the past week has settled on how conflicting facts and interpretations call into question whether Zimmerman acted justifiably or criminally. That’s a process that’ll continue. But one set of facts is ironclad, and that’s the back-and-forth between Zimmerman and the dispatcher. To portray that exchange in a way that wrongs Zimmerman is high editorial malpractice well worthy of the investigation that NBC is now mounting."

NBC to do ‘internal investigation’ on Zimmerman segment - Erik Wemple - The Washington Post
 
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The media is NOT qualified to present evidence in a fair in reasonable manner. The voice print analysis, this "enhanced" video and the original video are no substitute for a court of law. Zimmerman's guilt or innocence needs to determined by trial.
 
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rathi said:
The media is NOT qualified to present evidence in a fair in reasonable manner. The voice print analysis, this "enhanced" video and the original video are no substitute for a court of law. Zimmerman's guilt or innocence needs to determined by trial.
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No. It needs to be determined in accordance with the Law.

A "trial" is but one aspect of the Law, is not a necessary or automatic step in the Law.
 
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rathi said:
The media is NOT qualified to present evidence in a fair in reasonable manner. The voice print analysis, this "enhanced" video and the original video are no substitute for a court of law. Zimmerman's guilt or innocence needs to determined by trial.
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Court of law? Trial?

Evidently that's as likely as YOU being tried for the shooting of Trayvon Martin. BEFORE an individual can be arrested and tried for a crime, the evidence would have to support a reasonable expectation of an actual crime. Trayvon Martin was shot on Feb. 26, 2012. Common sense would indicate that YOU won't be arrested and tried, nor will George Zimmerman.

ABC and NBC are surely trying to fan the flames of this so-called racist-murder case. Wonder why they would do that during the election cycle of our incumbent mulatto president...? Could it be politically motivated?
 
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Would it be "racist" to ask whether Martin was trying to rob the place Zimmerman was protecting?
 
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PrometheusBound said:
Would it be "racist" to ask whether Martin was trying to rob the place Zimmerman was protecting?
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No, but it would be uninformed. Zimmerman wasn't protecting "a place."
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
Here is a photo from ABC

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And another article where the new ABC report video can be found:

ABC NEWS: Enhanced Zimmerman Video Shows Injury to Head

Point being, the original article last week, and all the uninformed crap in a thread about it, was just that. Nonense.
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Those look like injuries and if they are, his story about his injuries checks out although medical reports would be better. This doesn't change much.
 
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rathi said:
. Zimmerman's guilt or innocence needs to determined by trial.
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lol... You gotta get over that ****.

What part of prosecution lacks merit or decline to prosecute don't you get?
 
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PrometheusBound said:
Would it be "racist" to ask whether Martin was trying to rob the place Zimmerman was protecting?
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It depends on why you're asking the question, but given your post history:

PrometheusBound said:
Efforts to better this race are like forcing a coach to spend all his time training the boys who didn't make the team. The key point in this analogy that everyone is overlooking is that we are neglecting those with talent. We only have so much money to go around and must spend it where it will eventually pay off, not waste it on evolution's losers. Blacks themselves are dependent on America concentrating solely on tested superiority, the pre-Civil Rights development of which is the only reason they have always been better off than their cousins left in Africa. Unfair means they fare better.
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I'd say "yes".
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
Hey Maggie. I haven't been posting much, as I have had a squabble or two with the Mods. I live about 90 miles from Sanford, so I get plenty on this story, although its been mainstream everywhere.

We all want justice. What we have gotten though is BS. Not from law enforcement, but from the scum liberal media, and most of the black community.

ABC ran the original bogus and incorrect analysis last week, with only a grainy and edited video. NBC deliberately edited the 911 Zimmerman call. These were not accidents. These were not basic and prudent editing of media for time. It was all bull**** so as to hype this as a racial incident, where racism provoked the death of a 17 year old. Not a concerned citizen who was attacked. And not stupidity by an over-anxious Community Watch wannabee. Racism what done it, because that best fed the political frenzy that some hoped for and needed.

Duke Lacrosse part deux.
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Curious. You are 90 miles away and saw nothing, but assert as fact that it was because of racism and by a Community Watch wannabe. In fact he was in his Neighborhood Watch and you don't know whether it was racism or not.
 
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MaggieD said:
And now we will hear, "Well, it doesn't make any difference anyway."

I'm glad to see that some of the media has taken a bit of interest in Zimmerman's side of the story.
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OK...I'll say it. It doesnt MATTER. I dont disbelieve that he was getting his ass kicked. Thats an unfortunate bi-product when you stalk a man by car and on foot, against the direct guidance of a police dispatcher. See...if you are that person being stalked...you dont know what is up...you know some strange asshole is following you and that is NEVER good. There isnt a soul here that can honestly say that if they were in the 17 year olds position they wouldnt have reacted in SOME way. MANY here would react in the SAME way. Feel threatened...respond. I dont think for a second Zimmerman set out to murder the kid. I absolutely believe he is responsible, even criminally, for killing the kid.
 
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MaggieD said:
No, but it would be uninformed. Zimmerman wasn't protecting "a place."
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His call to 911 could be considered "protecting a place" in the sense of his neighborhood. It's splitting definitional hairs.
 
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VanceMack said:
OK...I'll say it. It doesnt MATTER. I dont disbelieve that he was getting his ass kicked. Thats an unfortunate bi-product when you stalk a man by car and on foot, against the direct guidance of a police dispatcher. See...if you are that person being stalked...you dont know what is up...you know some strange asshole is following you and that is NEVER good. There isnt a soul here that can honestly say that if they were in the 17 year olds position they wouldnt have reacted in SOME way. MANY here would react in the SAME way. Feel threatened...respond. I dont think for a second Zimmerman set out to murder the kid. I absolutely believe he is responsible, even criminally, for killing the kid.
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So you extremely support "stand your ground" in that you think that it what Martin did in relation to a sense of danger?
 
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There seems to be a lot of focus on whether Trayvon attacked Zimmerman or not. I have to say, I think that is completely besides the point. Trayvon was being chased down the street by a guy with a gun after doing nothing except going to the store to buy some skittles. Let's say Trayvon attacked Zimmerman in self-defense, and Zimmerman retaliated by shooting him. Doesn't exactly absolve Zimmerman of guilt. Zimmerman initiated the incident, against the advice of professionals. Even he admits that.

You should not be allowed to inject yourself into a situation, harass someone to the point where they lash out violently, and then kill them in "self-defense." Neither should stand-your-ground apply here. As Jeb Bush said: stand your ground means stand your ground. It doesn't mean chase after someone you haven't witnessed breaking any law and instigate a violent encounter. If anything, stand your ground applied to Trayvon, and look what it did for him...
 
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Krhazy said:
There seems to be a lot of focus on whether Trayvon attacked Zimmerman or not. I have to say, I think that is completely besides the point. Trayvon was being chased down the street by a guy with a gun after doing nothing except going to the store to buy some skittles. Let's say Trayvon attacked Zimmerman in self-defense, and Zimmerman retaliated by shooting him. Doesn't exactly absolve Zimmerman of guilt. Zimmerman initiated the incident, against the advice of professionals. Even he admits that.

You should not be allowed to inject yourself into a situation, harass someone to the point where they lash out violently, and then kill them in "self-defense." Neither should stand-your-ground apply here. As Jeb Bush said: stand your ground means stand your ground. It doesn't mean inject yourself into a situation and instigate a violent encounter. If anything, stand your ground applied to Trayvon, and look what it did for him...
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Well, Zimmerman's argument is not simply that Trayvon attacked him, but that Zimmerman stopped following Trayvon and then Trayvon followed Zimmerman and attacked him - meaning that Trayvon was the one who provoked confrontation.

That story sounds ridiculous to me, but whatever.
 
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joko104 said:
So you extremely support "stand your ground" in that you think that it what Martin did in relation to a sense of danger?
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Martin was a 17 year old, fueled by a dangerous combination of fear, adrenaline, and teen aged stupidity. Zimmerman is an adult, assumed to be in an authoritative role, who was carrying a firearm. He created the situation and is responsible for a dead kid.
 
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VanceMack said:
OK...I'll say it. It doesnt MATTER. I dont disbelieve that he was getting his ass kicked. Thats an unfortunate bi-product when you stalk a man by car and on foot, against the direct guidance of a police dispatcher. criminally
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1 - There was NO stalking

2 - Dispatchers have no police powers

3 - To insinuate that Zim who didn't follow the *guidance* of a 911 operator would be somehow at *fault for everything that happens next* demonstrates a lack of understanding of civil liability, specifically the principle of proximate cause.

For Zim to be liable, you'd have to be able to link what he did to the harm resulting. Merely failing to follow the directions of a 911 operator will not reach that level.

Get over it!
 
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joko104 said:
Curious. You are 90 miles away and saw nothing, but assert as fact that it was because of racism and by a Community Watch wannabe. In fact he was in his Neighborhood Watch and you don't know whether it was racism or not.
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You misread my post. I am blasting those who claim racism as the cause, which is the very anti-Zimmerman position..

I am saying that the truth lies between that of Trayvon assaulting Zimmerman, where Z acts in self-defense, or where Z was just an over-zealous cop wannabee with an itchy trigger finger. And that the evidence and process needs to run its course.
 
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Krhazy said:
There seems to be a lot of focus on whether Trayvon attacked Zimmerman or not. I have to say, I think that is completely besides the point. Trayvon was being chased down the street by a guy with a gun after doing nothing except going to the store to buy some skittles. Let's say Trayvon attacked Zimmerman in self-defense, and Zimmerman retaliated by shooting him. Doesn't exactly absolve Zimmerman of guilt. Zimmerman initiated the incident, against the advice of professionals. Even he admits that.

You should not be allowed to inject yourself into a situation, harass someone to the point where they lash out violently, and then kill them in "self-defense." Neither should stand-your-ground apply here. As Jeb Bush said: stand your ground means stand your ground. It doesn't mean chase after someone you haven't witnessed breaking any law and instigate a violent encounter. If anything, stand your ground applied to Trayvon, and look what it did for him...
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You have made numerous assumptions above. Well beyond what little evidence that we have. There are possibilities for the events that put all the blame on one, or the other. And there are scenarios where both escalated matters. Ther are scenarios where some of the escalation was legal, and some not. Dittos for degrees of stupidity.

But you clearly have made assumptions completely not in evidence, and then drawn conclusions on those baseless assumptions.
 
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Eighty Deuce said:
Hey Maggie. I haven't been posting much, as I have had a squabble or two with the Mods. I live about 90 miles from Sanford, so I get plenty on this story, although its been mainstream everywhere.

We all want justice. What we have gotten though is BS. Not from law enforcement, but from the scum liberal media, and most of the black community.

ABC ran the original bogus and incorrect analysis last week, with only a grainy and edited video. NBC deliberately edited the 911 Zimmerman call. These were not accidents. These were not basic and prudent editing of media for time. It was all bull**** so as to hype this as a racial incident, where racism provoked the death of a 17 year old. Not a concerned citizen who was attacked. And not stupidity by an over-anxious Community Watch wannabee. Racism what done it, because that best fed the political frenzy that some hoped for and needed.

Duke Lacrosse part deux.
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Just read that the Today show ran the edited audio of Zimmerman's phone call to a police dispatcher in which Zimmerman says: "'This guy looks like he's up to no good … he looks black." The original, they say, did not have the "he looks black" part on the video. What a pile of condensed owl crap. Now NBC says they're gonna look in to it.
 
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