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If America withdrew troops from S. Korea, how long, if at all, would it be...

North Korea's government is not as crazy as they are desperate to keep control of their country. Most of what they say and do that is interpreted as "crazy" is is simply meant to be propaganda to keep the people in line. If North Korea actually invaded the South, they would probably be crushed. US intervention would quicken the process, but unlike in 1950, the South Korean military is far superior to the North's which is still using decades-old technology. They no longer have the USSR to subsidize them. China and other countries continue to give North Korea aid, but it's meant to keep the country from collapsing and a wave of refugees from going into China, not to go toe-to-toe with the evil capitalists. North Korea's economy is largely based upon saber-rattling. They act like they will go to war, blow some stuff up, other countries give them aid to shut them up, the military and elites steal the aid, and the West is blamed for the country's troubles. At this point the US military may strengthen the South's advantage, but even without American assistance South Korea is not a prize that the North really can or even wants to get.
 
DrunkenAsparagus said:
North Korea's government is not as crazy as they are desperate to keep control of their country. Most of what they say and do that is interpreted as "crazy" is is simply meant to be propaganda to keep the people in line. If North Korea actually invaded the South, they would probably be crushed. US intervention would quicken the process, but unlike in 1950, the South Korean military is far superior to the North's which is still using decades-old technology. They no longer have the USSR to subsidize them. China and other countries continue to give North Korea aid, but it's meant to keep the country from collapsing and a wave of refugees from going into China, not to go toe-to-toe with the evil capitalists. North Korea's economy is largely based upon saber-rattling. They act like they will go to war, blow some stuff up, other countries give them aid to shut them up, the military and elites steal the aid, and the West is blamed for the country's troubles. At this point the US military may strengthen the South's advantage, but even without American assistance South Korea is not a prize that the North really can or even wants to get.
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I'd say that's a pretty accurate assessment. Nice post.
 
DashingAmerican said:
before N. Korea invaded.

And discuss. :)
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They probably already have invaded - are laying low waiting for our departure before they spring up.

Figures!

No - seriously: I don't know . . . but I really doubt that their policies and views and desire for South Korea are dead with him.

One thing I don't understand: if (apparently) we want a uniting of the two Koreas why are we over there at all: why don't we just step out and let them sort things out?
 
Aunt Spiker said:
One thing I don't understand: if (apparently) we want a uniting of the two Koreas why are we over there at all: why don't we just step out and let them sort things out?
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Probably because the US wants to be sure the South wins and the South dictate terms of the unification.
 
EagleAye said:
Probably because the US wants to be sure the South wins and the South dictate terms of the unification.
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So nevermind a unification - we just want to dissolve all of North Korea.

So it's just a stalemate of desires.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
So nevermind a unification - we just want to dissolve all of North Korea.

So it's just a stalemate of desires.
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Well, I think "dissolve" is too strong (if I'm interpreting your meaning right). Both sides would like unification but want the unified Korea to be run in their image. The US wants the South to win and run in the image of South Korea. So it's a matter of who decides how things get run after the unification.
 
Proud South Korean said:
China always had a huge interest in the Korean peninsula. To say otherwise suggests both an ignorance of modern affairs and Korean history.
Then why did China became and still is the biggest ally NK has? Why did China waste billions in aid, energy, and such to North Korea?
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For the same reasons that Russia does. It has nothing to do with some imperial design on the Korean Peninsula. The Chinese and Russians have an interest in countering American influence in the region. The far east is still very much impacted by realpolitik (sadly). The relations between China and the west are one big chess match and Korea happens to fall right in the middle along with Taiwan.
 
SolonOfAthens said:
For the same reasons that Russia does. It has nothing to do with some imperial design on the Korean Peninsula. The Chinese and Russians have an interest in countering American influence in the region. The far east is still very much impacted by realpolitik (sadly). The relations between China and the west are one big chess match and Korea happens to fall right in the middle along with Taiwan.
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History proves otherwise.
To suggest that Asia is a big chess match between the East and West is a foolish statement. Might have been true in the 19th century, but not in the 21st.
In addition, your statement implies that the US is responsible for Chinese and Russian presence at Manju and Hanbando
 
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