EXCLUSIVE: CIA Secret 'Torture' Prison Found at Fancy Horseback Riding Academy

dirtpoorchris · 11-19-09, 01:50 PM

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The CIA built one of its secret European prisons inside an exclusive riding academy outside Vilnius, Lithuania, a current Lithuanian government official and a former U.S. intelligence official told ABC News this week.

Where affluent Lithuanians once rode show horses and sipped coffee at a café, the CIA installed a concrete structure where it could use harsh tactics to interrogate up to eight suspected al-Qaeda terrorists at a time.

"The activities in that prison were illegal," said human rights researcher John Sifton. "They included various forms of torture, including sleep deprivation, forced standing, painful stress positions."

Lithuanian officials provided ABC News with the documents of what they called a CIA front company, Elite, LLC, which purchased the property and built the "black site" in 2004.

Nuthin like some bets after cracking some skulls.

Arch Enemy · 11-19-09, 02:00 PM

knowing our government I wouldn't be surprised if there were a "Secret" Torture Prison inside Splash Mountain at Disney World.

"Okay Mr. Abdullah Aziz Muhammad Jihad, just step inside floating log cart"
"YAYYY!!!"

*Click* The tracks change course

"Hey Mr. CIA man, I think you need to call matien.. noo noooooo"

dirtpoorchris · 11-19-09, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Arch Enemy

knowing our government I wouldn't be surprised if there were a "Secret" Torture Prison inside Splash Mountain at Disney World.

"Okay Mr. Abdullah Aziz Muhammad Jihad, just step inside floating log cart"
"YAYYY!!!"

*Click* The tracks change course

"Hey Mr. CIA man, I think you need to call matien.. noo noooooo"

Just add in a automated machine that throws a turbin at them and a mock ak-47. Sprinkles them with opium then takes a picture. And you got a streamlined machine. The image of the splash mountain log changing tracks is just halarious to me. Dudes eyes would be 0_0

RightinNYC · 11-19-09, 02:10 PM

To clarify, there's absolutely no evidence or testimony as to what happened at that site. All we know is that it exists. The "human rights researcher" is just saying what he thinks happened.

Arch Enemy · 11-19-09, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris

Just add in a automated machine that throws a turbin at them and a mock ak-47. Sprinkles them with opium then takes a picture. And you got a streamlined machine. The image of the splash mountain log changing tracks is just halarious to me. Dudes eyes would be 0_0

Hah. My focus was on the C.I.A showing up in Yemen, knocking on the door, and telling this guy he's won an all expense paid trip to Disney World.

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To clarify, there's absolutely no evidence or testimony as to what happened at that site. All we know is that it exists. The "human rights researcher" is just saying what he thinks happened.

According to my extensive research at the Splash Mountain torture chambers, there's all sorts of bad that that can be linked to this Lithuanian site.

MSgt · 11-22-09, 03:21 AM

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"The activities in that prison were illegal," said human rights researcher John Sifton. "They included various forms of torture, including sleep deprivation, forced standing, painful stress positions."

I did that for three months in Paris Island (I believe there was even a gas chamber involved.) More when I walked my posts at MCT. More of the same when I walked my post at MOS school. Even more when I deployed. More whenever on 24 hour Duty over the last 18 years.

What ever happened to good old fashioned torture when people lost fingers, were electrocuted, jammed sticks under finger nails, etc. I guess the absence of those kinds of torture has people looking to fill the void. ...civilians.

dirtpoorchris · 11-22-09, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GySgt

I did that for three months in Paris Island (I believe there was even a gas chamber involved.) More when I walked my posts at MCT. More of the same when I walked my post at MOS school. Even more when I deployed. More whenever on 24 hour Duty over the last 18 years.

What ever happened to good old fashioned torture when people lost fingers, were electrocuted, jammed sticks under finger nails, etc. I guess the absence of those kinds of torture has people looking to fill the void. ...civilians.

Damn the grey area. When you have laws that let you do something minimally horrible, then someone stretches it too far, the abusers have something to fall back on. Interrogation should involve nothing but words. (Sorry to inject this here) But its all sorta like bringing laws into affect that allow mercury into injections. Before the law any found in it would be a horrible catastrophe. But, seeing as how a little is allowed now, people have leeway to play around with.

From this article we know that only 8 people at a time where ever kept here. So this must be a small time thing right? What if this place shuffled 8 different people ever single day for the past few years?

molten_dragon · 11-22-09, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GySgt

I did that for three months in Paris Island (I believe there was even a gas chamber involved.) More when I walked my posts at MCT. More of the same when I walked my post at MOS school. Even more when I deployed. More whenever on 24 hour Duty over the last 18 years.

What ever happened to good old fashioned torture when people lost fingers, were electrocuted, jammed sticks under finger nails, etc. I guess the absence of those kinds of torture has people looking to fill the void. ...civilians.

I have to agree with this (well, except the ...civilians comment, since I've never been anything but). We need a different word for those kind of interrogation methods. Torture is a different beast entirely than sleep deprivation and 'forced standing'.

Tashah · 11-22-09, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by molten_dragon

We need a different word for those kind of interrogation methods. Torture is a different beast entirely than sleep deprivation and 'forced standing'.

These are called “aggressive interrogation techniques” to distinguish them from the draconian torture methods which typically cause permanent physical and/or mental health harm.

Joe1991 · 11-22-09, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GySgt

I did that for three months in Paris Island (I believe there was even a gas chamber involved.) More when I walked my posts at MCT. More of the same when I walked my post at MOS school. Even more when I deployed. More whenever on 24 hour Duty over the last 18 years..

You did those things voluntarily and were surrounded by your fellow Americans whom you knew weren't going to kill you. It's silly to attempt to compare that to actual torture.

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Originally Posted by GySgt

What ever happened to good old fashioned torture when people lost fingers, were electrocuted, jammed sticks under finger nails, etc. I guess the absence of those kinds of torture has people looking to fill the void. ...civilians.

We as a people decided we were better than animals and signed the Geneva Conventions... didn't they teach you that in basic?

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