How To Fight the Russians in a City

repeter · 06-06-09, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gunner

Seriously... your advice would be of no use. I payed attention to my all arms instructors. Are you a fantasist?

Paul

This is a hypothetical situation, in which the main defending force has been incapacitated, and only a handful of snipers are left. Of course, the main defense force could be the snipers themselves...as a delaying force, to buy time for a counterattack or something...

RightinNYC · 06-06-09, 03:25 PM

1) Consume all fossil fuels, thus eliminating Russian winters
2) Consume all vodka
3) Conduct psychological warfare via streaming transmission of Rocky IV to all russian televisions
4) ???
5) Profit

Ethereal · 06-06-09, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tashah

Indeed. And the Chechens are not the Russians.

The Russians basically leveled Grozny. Infantry patroled the ruins in tandem with tanks. Anyone remaining in the city was considered a hostile and dealt with severely. The Russians also employed Kontrakniki. These are Russian military vets (mercenaries and all alcoholics) who sign a three year contract. They are outfitted and supplied by the Russian military, yet they answer to no one. They sometimes man checkpoints, but their main forte is sweep and destroy missions. God help you if your bribe stash is deemed insufficient.

Tashah, you rule.

Bodhisattva · 06-06-09, 07:51 PM

I would rather learn "How and Where To Drink With A Russian in a City"

Livebythesword · 06-07-09, 02:02 AM

Russians....Piss poor discipline, Terrible habits, Drink alot, Tough as nails. The only thing worse then fighting a russian soldier is fighting a native american.

Lerxst · 06-07-09, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Livebythesword

Russians....Piss poor discipline, Terrible habits, Drink alot, Tough as nails. The only thing worse then fighting a russian soldier is fighting a native american.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? That sounds like a line out of an old war movie. What are you correlating here?

Real Talk · 06-07-09, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tashah

Problem > solution. The Russians simply leveled the city.

Not to belitle the achievment of a guerilla force holding up a military super power on its own doorstep for a decade. Lets not pretend the tactics arent effective.

Lerxst · 06-07-09, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Real Talk

Not to belitle the achievment of a guerilla force holding up a military super power on its own doorstep for a decade. Lets not pretend the tactics arent effective.

Effective, but effective at what? Simply killing Russians? Drawing the conflict out? Getting their city completely razed?

Effective is a relative term.

A tactic can be effective, but that doesn't mean it's actually successful. I'm asking only because I'd like to know if you're just speaking in general or does your argument go deeper in this specific situation?

Reverend_Hellh0und · 06-07-09, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Livebythesword

Russians....Piss poor discipline, Terrible habits, Drink alot, Tough as nails. The only thing worse then fighting a russian soldier is fighting a native american.

obvious Child · 06-07-09, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lerxst

Effective, but effective at what? Simply killing Russians? Drawing the conflict out? Getting their city completely razed?

Effective is a relative term.

A tactic can be effective, but that doesn't mean it's actually successful. I'm asking only because I'd like to know if you're just speaking in general or does your argument go deeper in this specific situation?

Helmuth von Moltke the Younger is a prime example of where effective in battle was the thinking, rather than effective in meeting the political overall goals and their relation to the battle. The line was "so what happens after?" To which Moltke replies more or less "We'll figure it out later." Guess who lost WWI? Marne Campaign I believe.

Effective does not mean much unless there is an over arching goal.

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