Did the hatred of the US start with Russia?

chevydriver1123 · 07-16-08, 07:10 PM

Was browsing random wiki articles and came accross this in the Communist Terrorism article.

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Lt. General Ion Mihai Pacepa described the operation "SIG" (“Zionist Governments”) that was devised in 1972, to turn the whole Islamic world against Israel and the United States. KGB chairman Yury Andropov allegedly explained to Pacepa that "a billion adversaries could inflict far greater damage on America than could a few millions. We needed to instill a Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon of the emotions into a terrorist bloodbath against Israel and its main supporter, the United States."

Communist terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

obvious Child · 07-16-08, 07:46 PM

LOL. Anyone notice the ad for mail order Russian Bride? I heart 'intelligent' ad services.

In other news, probably not.

Remember that the Muslims had plenty reasons to hate the US well before 1972. Support of the oppressive Shah of Iran, support of the Saudi Monarchy, supporting the lies that Britain and France gave to the Muslims, supporting Israel (remember the Yom Kippur War, Operation Nickel Grass saved their butts), the list goes on and on. In many ways, Ron Paul is correct about "not making enemies," especially in the context of the history of this region. We gave them a laundry list of reasons to hate us before 1972.

Gladiator · 07-16-08, 08:26 PM

What is the history of the US CIA and Iran? What governments were toppled or installed by the CIA, to get the best price on Oil?

Many Iranians started hating the US in the 50's, if not before. The CIA was formed in 1947.

"At this time Frank Wisner began plotting the overthrow of Mohammed Mossadegh in Iran. He had upset the US government by nationalizing Iran's oil industry. Mossadegh also abolished Iran's feudal agriculture sector and replaced with a system of collective farming and government land ownership.

On April 4, 1953, Frank Wisner persuaded Allen W. Dulles to approve $1 million to be used "in any way that would bring about the fall of Mossadegh." Kermit Roosevelt, the grandson of Theodore Roosevelt, was put in charge of what became known as Operation Ajax. According to Donald N. Wilber, who was involved in this CIA plot to remove Mossadegh from power, in early August, 1953, Iranian CIA operatives, pretending to be socialists, threatened Muslim leaders with "savage punishment if they opposed Mossadegh," thereby giving the impression that Mossadegh was cracking down on dissent. This resulted in the religious community turning against Mossadegh.

Iranians took to the streets against Mohammed Mossadegh. Funded with money from the CIA and MI6, the pro-monarchy forces quickly gained the upper hand. The military now joined the opposition and Mossadegh was arrested on August 19, 1953. President Dwight Eisenhower was delighted with this result and asked Wisner to arrange for Kermit Roosevelt to give him a personal briefing on Operation Ajax."

CIA: 1947-1990

How about victims of the US Military in the Phillipines, since 1898?

Philippine Campaign Medal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anti-Terrorist Campaign, USA, 1900-02, 1905-07

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