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05-27-08, 08:15 AM
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Our Enemy Has a Name: The Irreconcilable Wing of Islam
It's taken a while to catch on but as time goes by I think and hope this name for our enemy will replace the awkward or incorrect names we've used so far and will become the one name which not only identifies them but also describes why we are at war with them and who we are NOT at war with.
When you think about it, it's a brilliant name and though it doesn't immediately roll off the tongue, neither did al Qaeda, Zarqawi, Zawahiri or Ahmadinejad not that long ago.
From now on I will stop using the words, Jihadists, Islamists or Isamo-fascists as much, in favor of Newt Gingrich's term, the Irreconcilable Wing of Islam. Quote: Newt Gingrich on the "Long War Against the Irreconcilable Wing of Islam"
In his August 11, 2004, Statement to accompany testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich said:
"Our country faces active opponents who will study our new systems and our new procedures and sooner or later one of them will surprise us. Since we now live in an age of mass destruction, mass murder, and mass disruption we have to design defense and homeland security systems that are so robust and so in depth that after the surprise we are still a safe, prosperous, free society. The long war between good and evil, between freedom and tyranny, between civilization and barbarism will not end no matter how good our intelligence. Therefore we will have to be robustly prepared both at home and abroad."
Speaking before the National Press Club on August 21, 2005, Gingrich "warned" that the United States "could be at war with Islamic radicals for another half century, but nobody is willing to say so." [2]
"'The sheer reality of the long war — I call it long war deliberately — (is) we're going to be fighting the irreconcilable wing of Islam for at least 50 to 70 years,'" Gingrich said. "'And ... my biggest complaint is nobody has yet to stand up and say this is going to be really hard, this is going to take a long time,' he added in response to questions after the speech."
"'We are faced with a long war with the irreconcilable wing of Islam,' he said. 'They really do want a different world than we're going to live in and, therefore, one side or the other is going to win because it's not negotiable.'" | The Long War - SourceWatch | 
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05-27-08, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bhkad It's taken a while to catch on... | you mean you haven't been reading my posts? I'm glad that you have caught on. you deserve praise. most never do. Quote:
Originally Posted by niftydrifty  What is Islam? should I use the definition of dixon76710 and Qutb and Osama bin Laden, or that of Al-Albani?
please continue directing your criticism at something that is arguably not Islam, not according to the most respected Muslim scholars and most Muslim people. continue to call this Islamism, Islam. please continue to agree with deluded and dishonest terrorists on what Islam allegedly is. | Quote:
Originally Posted by niftydrifty but there isn't any proof that the Qur'an says it is ok to do those things.
when there are approximately 1.6 billion muslims worldwide, and most of them are peaceful, the despicable deed isn't caused by Islam. Islam and Islamism are not one and the same. | Quote:
Originally Posted by niftydrifty I agree that a "say no to Islam" avatar is distasteful. an avatar that said "say not to violent Islamism that takes the teachings of Islam and twists it into something which it is not" would be just fine. | Quote:
Originally Posted by niftydrifty All of this data suggests to me that the whole cannot be blamed for the misguided actions of a few.
If we endeavor to make accurate statements about our world, we would rather say that a tiny, misguided minority of Muslims follow a radical belief, based upon lies, that terror is justified within the holy Qur’an. These radical beliefs, not Islam, are a contributing factor of human brutality around the world. | Quote:
Originally Posted by niftydrifty Islam is what Muslims “do.” Most Muslims do not do violence. Most Muslims do not support violence. | it's important to make a distinction between Islam and the radical Islamist terrorists. Newt's term isn't an accurate one, however. read it again: "the Irreconcilable Wing of Islam." Islamism is different than the Islam of most Muslims. it's a misnomer to speak about as if it is a part of the Islam of most Muslims. don't give Newt any credit for being wrong.
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06-01-08, 01:33 AM
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I think bhkad is too shortsighted to recognize that Islam is used as a tool by these people to get people to do what they want, much in the same way that nationalism, racism, anti-semitism, or any other ideology or ideological manifestation is used (after all, the US went into Iraq to "defend our freedoms" and for "democracy," right?).
Bhkad's sight stops short at the word "Islam". | |
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06-01-08, 11:26 AM
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You ever hear of one of those planes where the whole plane is a wing ?
Thats the kind of "wing" we have here . . .  | |
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