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    CHART: These Are The Countries Where Terrorists Pose The Greatest Threat To The US

    The drone attacks might disrupt some terror networks temporarily but terror cells will multiply all the more in the long run.

    Despite the U.S.-led War on Terror, there has been a rapid proliferation of Salafi-jihadist styled groups, according to a new RAND report by Seth G. Jones. Since 2010, there has been a 58% increase in the number of jihadist groups, a doubling of fighters loyal to jihadist causes, and a tripling of attacks carried out by al Qaeda and its affiliate networks.

    This chart shows the countries that are currently the highest concern for the U.S. A country’s risk is determined by the capability of the central government to enforce rule of law measured against the presence of terrorist organizations and their interest in attacking the United States.
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    Re: CHART: These Are The Countries Where Terrorists Pose The Greatest Threat To The U

    two options.

    #1 **** it and bomb the hell out of places where terrorists operate on a massive scale indiscriminately, maybe even throw in some nukes.

    #2 bring all soldiers back, increase security, and then what happens elsewhere isn't your problem

    I go with #2, it's cheaper, probably just as effective, and it sounds much more sane.

    Who cares where they come from, time to stop freaking going terror-crazy and spend trillions.

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    Re: CHART: These Are The Countries Where Terrorists Pose The Greatest Threat To The U

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    The drone attacks might disrupt some terror networks temporarily but terror cells will multiply all the more in the long run.



    CHART: These Are The Countries Where Terrorists Pose The Greatest Threat To The US | Business Insider

    That list has sure gotten large over the past six years.

    I thought Al Qaeda was on the run and was being decimated ?
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    Re: CHART: These Are The Countries Where Terrorists Pose The Greatest Threat To The U

    Iran? That should include Gaza, Syria, Lebanon and some of Africa.



    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That list has sure gotten large over the past six years.

    I thought Al Qaeda was on the run and was being decimated ?
    It was different 6 years prior how?


    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    two options.

    #1 **** it and bomb the hell out of places where terrorists operate on a massive scale indiscriminately, maybe even throw in some nukes.

    #2 bring all soldiers back, increase security, and then what happens elsewhere isn't your problem

    I go with #2, it's cheaper, probably just as effective, and it sounds much more sane.

    Who cares where they come from, time to stop freaking going terror-crazy and spend trillions.
    #3 (also known as reality): Engineer engagements to maximize benefits to the west, human rights and democracy. Sometimes diplomacy, economics, cultural events (like sports), sanctions, military support and, yes, even war.

    You present a ridiculous (and unethical) false dichotomy in order to justify your extremist position. Having clearly recognized (and explained) the fallacy upon which your position stands, it can be safely dismissed. If there was any real support for such extremism, you would have presented it instead of nonsense.

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    Re: CHART: These Are The Countries Where Terrorists Pose The Greatest Threat To The U

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post


    It was different 6 years prior how?
    At the end of 2008, Al Qaeda was cornered in Yemen, Northern Pakistan and on the Horn of Africa.

    During the past six years Al Qaeda has been "on the run," running all over the Middle East and North Africa expanding it's base of operations.

    6,000 Al Qaeda fighters were killed during the Iraqi insurrection and in 2008, there were no Al Qaeda in Iraq, Guess what ? There back.

    Today Al Qaeda is openly operating in Syria, Libya, Nigeria, Morocco, etc where they weren't six years ago.

    Then you have all of the other radical jihadist groups that have grown and have become more dangerous that can be found all over the Middle East and Africa where they weren't six years ago.

    In 2008 the entire Middle East and North Africa wasn't a basket case like it is today.

    Back in 2008 we weren't negotiating with the enemy to get back an American soldier who deserted his unit in a combat zone and had Presidential spoke hole lying to the American people that deserting the U.S. Army during war time is as the same as serving "honorably and distinction."
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    Re: CHART: These Are The Countries Where Terrorists Pose The Greatest Threat To The U

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    The drone attacks might disrupt some terror networks temporarily but terror cells will multiply all the more in the long run.



    CHART: These Are The Countries Where Terrorists Pose The Greatest Threat To The US | Business Insider

    drone strikes dont disrupt them at all,infact it aids their recruitment due to their indescriminate nature.

    terrorism is a non uniformed enemy that blends with the populations,and uses civilians as shields,while using civilian deaths to recruit more.the way to win the war on terror is to turn the people against terrorist organizations,not to bomb them.terrorist groups are not conventional uniformed enemies,and conventional methods wont work,because if that were the case,we would have erradicated it a decade ago.


    fyi im not surprized phillipines is on the list,they have the abu-sayef,which is meaner and much older than al-quaeda,they had enough problems there the the phillipine govt used to have strict curfews and some very authoritarian police forces in order to deal with terrorist organizations within their country.
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    Re: CHART: These Are The Countries Where Terrorists Pose The Greatest Threat To The U

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That list has sure gotten large over the past six years.

    I thought Al Qaeda was on the run and was being decimated ?
    that whole list isnt alquaeda,the world has dealth with terrorism for a long time now,israel has dealt with it since its existence,phillipines had the abu-sayef which makes alquaeda look weak,there are also numerous groups worldwide,some been around for decades.


    but to counter your numbers rising,its because obama has selectively enforced the coin strategy,by making troops follow it,but bypassing it by using drones.coin being counter insurgency.terrorists use civilians as shields,and drones tend to take out civilians as well as enemies,terrorist groups use that as recruiting tools.terrorism is insurgency fighting,which is unconventional warfare,so convential war tactics dont work.


    the us had success using coin for the short time the bush admin used it,around the end of his presidency,to the beginning of obamas until drone warfare became commonly used to bypass the coin strategy.
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    Re: CHART: These Are The Countries Where Terrorists Pose The Greatest Threat To The U

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    that whole list isnt alquaeda,the world has dealth with terrorism for a long time now,israel has dealt with it since its existence,phillipines had the abu-sayef which makes alquaeda look weak,there are also numerous groups worldwide,some been around for decades.


    but to counter your numbers rising,its because obama has selectively enforced the coin strategy,by making troops follow it,but bypassing it by using drones.coin being counter insurgency.terrorists use civilians as shields,and drones tend to take out civilians as well as enemies,terrorist groups use that as recruiting tools.terrorism is insurgency fighting,which is unconventional warfare,so convential war tactics dont work.


    the us had success using coin for the short time the bush admin used it,around the end of his presidency,to the beginning of obamas until drone warfare became commonly used to bypass the coin strategy.
    Abu Sayyaf is pretty well know in this region for many years. They do a lot of kidnapping of foreigners for ransom. They are located in the island of Mindanao and provide training for terrorists in this region. Several Singaporeans went there for training to conduct terror activities on American interests here. They were under surveliance here and then arrested, put on detention, and go through a rehabilitation program.

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    Re: CHART: These Are The Countries Where Terrorists Pose The Greatest Threat To The U

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    That is an.... interesting list.
    Iraq is not a perfect place, but were leaving behind a sovereign, stable, and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government... In Afghanistan weve broken the momentum of the Taliban... And around the globe, as we draw down in Iraq, we have gone after al Qaeda so that terrorists who threaten America will have no safe haven. - Barack Obama

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    Re: CHART: These Are The Countries Where Terrorists Pose The Greatest Threat To The U

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    drone strikes dont disrupt them at all,infact it aids their recruitment due to their indescriminate nature.
    That is an interesting claim. Given that it is false in its' presumption (that drone strikes are indiscriminate) and that all the available literature debunks the notion of "kill one, create more", how do you justify arguing it?

    terrorism is a non uniformed enemy that blends with the populations,and uses civilians as shields,while using civilian deaths to recruit more.the way to win the war on terror is to turn the people against terrorist organizations,not to bomb them.
    Not to bomb the people? Probably not. You shouldn't generally target civilians for the sake of targeting civilians, certainly. Fortunately, we do not do that.

    However, hard power still takes the lead.

    fyi im not surprized phillipines is on the list,they have the abu-sayef,which is meaner and much older than al-quaeda,they had enough problems there the the phillipine govt used to have strict curfews and some very authoritarian police forces in order to deal with terrorist organizations within their country.
    ASG is dilapidated. I'm surprised they are on the list where they are, especially given the successful MILF talks.
    Iraq is not a perfect place, but were leaving behind a sovereign, stable, and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government... In Afghanistan weve broken the momentum of the Taliban... And around the globe, as we draw down in Iraq, we have gone after al Qaeda so that terrorists who threaten America will have no safe haven. - Barack Obama

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