So do many on the right -- there is no end to the bitching these days. Including from you, it seems.
:roll:
We've been through this before.
These are HUMAN rights. The justification for due process and protection from cruel and unusual punishment itself is based on the idea that every person has those rights, no matter where or when they were born.
The "right to due process" does not stop at the US border; e.g. the CIA is not empowered to use torture if they operate a base in Canada; the FBI cannot raid a building in the UK without proper authorization and use the information in court.
Plus, a great deal of what's going on? It happened in territory under the control of the US, and by agents of the US government.
Your willingness to ditch critical human rights in the name of interrogation techniques
that don't work in the first place is quite telling.
Yes, they do. We've been over this too. Your cherry-picking of the law is as outdated as your Bircherism.
If that is going to provide more accurate information? Yes. Without question.
I don't care if we have to give the suspect ice cream with sprinkles on top. All that matters is 1) getting the right information and 2) ensuring that their basic human rights are respected in the process.
Yes, it has. Without question, it has. Waterboarding, stress positions, sleep deprivation, all are torture. Plus, we deliberately sent suspects to nations like Egypt, knowing full well they would be tortured.
Just because a few lawyers in thrall to motivated reasoning don't think it's torture, doesn't mean it is not torture.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Sound familiar?
Human rights, universal rights, inherent rights. Slightly different names, same thing. Not that difficult to understand.
We've been over this too. Every human being is entitled to a basic set of rights -- including due process.
They may or may not have certain rights specified in the Geneva Convention. That does not mean that if you are captured on the battlefield without wearing a uniform, the capturing army can do whatever they want to you.
lol
Yes, I'm sure terrorists extensively study cognitive science
Uh huh
On one hand, we have actual research done by professional researchers.
On the other, we have a Bircher who professes to love America, yet does not understand human rights, has done zero research, and thinks that if it worked for Jack Bauer it should work in real life.
Which one is more persuasive? Hmmm.
Yes, it's truly an awful thing for citizens to know their rights. What
were we all thinking?!?
I have to say, it sounds like
it is you who truly hates this nation. You don't want to respect human rights, you don't want citizens to exercise their rights, you want to kick out anyone who doesn't agree with your views. You seem to think it's fine for the government to be as authoritarian as it wants to be, presumably in the name of freedom. That does not sound American at all.