Joe Hill

All the other flimsy pathetic excuses for attacking Iraq have collapsed except one....

Bill Moyers Journal . Watch & Listen | PBS

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P/N

Ah yes, the very open- *cough* bull**** *cough* minded Bill Moyers chimes in. Are you seriously linking to Bill Moyers and expecting anyone to take you seriously? Maybe next time you could link to Rush Limbaugh instead so it can be even less believable.

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niftydrifty

I do. Please, tell us, P/N. Why is Moyers wrong?

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independent_thinker2002

Yes, I would like to hear this as well.

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P/N

Can you show me where I said he was wrong? Can you show me where I said he was right? Moyers is a partisan hack, period. He's bound to be right sometimes, but then again, so is Rush Limbuagh, Howard Dean and Fidel Castro. The point I was making is that Moyers only points out what is convenient for him to point out. His words should be taken with the same truckload of salt that Limbaugh's words should be taken with. If the war had gone this well from the beginning, do you seriously believe that Moyers would be praising the war effort with the same enthusiasm that he is still blasting it?

independent_thinker2002

Moyers is a journalist. Limbaugh is a hack comedian. When Moyers accuses Bush of having a tattoo of a hammer and sickle on his Johnson you may make that comparison.

There needs to be a Godwin's law for comparing journalists to Limbaugh.

P/N

Journalist or not, are you disputing that Moyers is a partisan hack?

independent_thinker2002

Yes, I am.

niftydrifty

You said he was unbelievable, somewhere in a place down near Limbaugh. I'm asking you to explain why you made such a statement and a comparison.

That was never my claim.

Tell us why you think so.

That's really interesting, but what does it have to do with the story in the OP?

Where you an adult during the nineties? If so, and if you tuned into Moyers, you would have seen him report on the difficulties poor people had as a result of the policies of the Clinton administration. Why? Because he reports on government policies.

Why?

I'm not willing to entertain "if" conditions that aren't true. Care to try again, using an example that isn't merely wishful thinking?

Mach

Gone well? How is that technically possible when the reasons for entering the war we basically all shown to be not only incorrect, but basically unfounded and probably intentional misinformation? You have no idea what "war gone well" means in realistic terms any more than we do, and you have no idea what Bill Moyers would hypothetically have commented on had you hypothetical ideal war taken place. Please, leave the raw conjecture to propoganda specialists like Rush.

-Mach

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