kathaksung

Us provokes Iraq civil war, surge is for another war

The real people behind the insurgence are US and Israel intelligence and Pentagon. They try to provoke a civil war in Iraq. The purpose is to let Iraqis to kill Iraqis, so US Army can stay in Iraq until next war: Iran's or Syria's.

Will a peaceful Iraq needs US occupation troop any more? No, US will have no excuse to stay.

How can US troops stay in Iraq? When there is riot, car bombing, death squad killing, civil war.

Well, the terrorist is there, withdraw troops is cut and run, Bush says. So Bush can have US troops stay in Mid-east until the next war - a war on Iran or Syria. The new war needs more troops, so Bush demand a surge.
That's why we saw Al Qaida (a special force to act on behalf of US intelligence) launched attack at Shiite shrine to start the conflict between Sunni and Shiite. We already know the 911 attack was in the name of Al Qaida which gave Bush the justification to start the war in Mid-east - war on Afghanistan and Iraq.

The US and Israel intelligence controlled death squad of Iraqis government which is used to kill Sunni people. On the other hand they controlled insurgence and Al Qaida to kill Shiite civilians by car bombing. That is how they create a civil war in Iraq.

Simon W. Moon

It seems decidedly more expensive and thus less efficient to keep our troops in rotation this whole time.
If thats the plan, it's a piss-poor one.

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Lerxst

Very poor logic here. Bush doesn't have enough time left in his administration to make a plan like that even remotely possible. We don't have the manpower on hand, surge or not, to both occupy Iraq and fight a ground war in Iran or Syria. Further, we don't need a civil war to protract our time there. If it ended tonight we would be there for at least two to three more years, even with Dems at the helm. We can deal with Iran or Syria via massive aerial campaign. We can't occupy another nation, it's just not possible. Therefore an aerial and naval strike campaign would be the plan of choice. We could very easily cripple their infrastructure and never need to place a single troop on enemy ground.

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Gladiator

Financing Al Qaida in Iraq:

Money is contributed outside Iraq for al Qaida operations inside Iraq.

Al-Qaeda 'financier' arrested in Iraq - Financial Times - MSNBC.com

winston53660

AQ is a world wide org.

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mikhail

Well the US army precence in Germany hasnt worked to provoke a civil war has it.There doesent have to be any problems with having army bases in other countries.The insurgence are trying to bring about a civil war.

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Gladiator

Different actions provoke different people with differing religious and social customs. Here again, WWII is getting confused with Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq. Also, Germany started the WWII.

Is there any doubt that Bush wants Iran? Bush just has not provoked enough reaction to justify his attack. Lord knows he is lying awake nights trying.


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mikhail

Your suggesting the idea of irreconcilable civilisations i must warn you people have said that about many different people with "differing religious and social customs"and they have always been wrong.

Gladiator

Dear Mik Hail,

Islamic countries are more sensitive about occupation by a foreign power and more sensitive about having their doors broken down to their houses.

Irreconsilable is your word. The US is famous for blundering and being insensitive to other cultures.

The point made by kathaksung is that Bush is being deliberately provocative to keep conflict going, to justify a US troop presence in Iraq. Rumsfeld said the insurgency in Iraq was like a bowl of fruit. To me, Rumsfeld meant that the violence in Iraq served the interests of the Neocons.



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