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Oh, no, this is terrible!

Dittohead not! said:
[h=1]Dow notches 4-day winning streak, closes at record high[/h]



How can we possibly continue to feed the fear that the economic policies of the Obama Administration are causing the economy to tank?

This can't possibly be true!

Buy gold, buy gold!!!
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Just as immediately prior to the last crash, the market is acting in anticipation to changes. It's seeing a much more business friendly Congress coming and are acting with optimism, just as they did back in '08 when the market crashed, due in large part to the market seeing a more business UN-friendly Congress on the way and reacted with a more pessimistic approach.
 
fmw said:
No, my wife and I just walked out of the bank and then had some lunch. Oddly, they didn't give us a copy of the mortgage. Should they have done that?
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It is stored in some computer somewhere, probably with the county or state....
I think you can request one, but don't expect it to be free.
 
Wall Street is our national casino. This is what stock markets are, gambling operations.
 
Dittohead not! said:
That along with the socialist policies of the Obama administration.
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ObamaCare is not Socialist per se but it and its tax and cost increases still have had a disastrous effect on our economy.

Apparently the Left thinks you stimulate economic growth by fleecing the Middle Class of more and more of their discretionary income, by chasing off investment capital and businesses and through corrupt croney capitalist "investments " with tax payer dollars

Oh and through Central bank intervention so the Rich get richer

Im still not sure what you're celebrating about.

8 years of unprecedented Central Bank intervention isn't because we've been experiencing a amazing recovery

On the contrary.
 
Casper said:
Just so ya know all it takes is a Monday morning to change it all.
Gold is an excellent investment, not bad idea.
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The price of gold is highly volatile. Right now, it's artificially high due to excessive advertising.
 
Casper said:
But it almost always trend upwards.
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along with some precipitous drops from time to time. Best advice for buying any one commodity, whatever it is: Gamble if you want, but don't risk more than you can afford to lose.
 
Dittohead not! said:
[h=1]Dow notches 4-day winning streak, closes at record high[/h]



How can we possibly continue to feed the fear that the economic policies of the Obama Administration are causing the economy to tank?

This can't possibly be true!

Buy gold, buy gold!!!
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My concerns are more like: how can we possibly sever our country's stability on the ebb and flow of the market. I think it's too strong of a concept and shouldn't have the capacity to make or break a country's financial strengths when stock-only things change and go on.
 
Dittohead not! said:
[h=1]Dow notches 4-day winning streak, closes at record high[/h]



How can we possibly continue to feed the fear that the economic policies of the Obama Administration are causing the economy to tank?

This can't possibly be true!

Buy gold, buy gold!!!
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If Obama's economic policies are so good - why is our debt now two times more than it has ever been in the history of America. We are in a bubble right now and my fear is that when it pops or even springs a small leak, this whole thing will come tumbling down. I know from my own perspective, things have been better economically with regards to money generated in my business. I've used that extra income to pay down debt that was running high before 2008. So why isn't the US? If we can't pay down this debt during the so called "good times" then when will we be able to pay it down?
 
cpwill said:
:( To be fair, some of this damage probably isn't Obama, but rather the world-ending economic catastrophe that was the Brexit.
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Unemployment is down, the stock market is up, the price of oil, and therefore gasoline, is down.

It's getting harder and harder to support the "sky is falling" idea.
 
EvaPeron said:
If Obama's economic policies are so good - why is our debt now two times more than it has ever been in the history of America. We are in a bubble right now and my fear is that when it pops or even springs a small leak, this whole thing will come tumbling down. I know from my own perspective, things have been better economically with regards to money generated in my business. I've used that extra income to pay down debt that was running high before 2008. So why isn't the US? If we can't pay down this debt during the so called "good times" then when will we be able to pay it down?
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The US will never pay down the debt. The best strategy is to increase the GDP so that the debt, as a portion of the GDP will go down.

In order to pay down the debt, two things must happen: Spending as to go down, and taxes have to go up. If Congress were to raise taxes and, at the same time, curtail spending, then the deficit would not become a surplus as doing so would cause the GDP to quit growing, maybe even go down.
 
Dittohead not! said:
along with some precipitous drops from time to time. Best advice for buying any one commodity, whatever it is: Gamble if you want, but don't risk more than you can afford to lose.
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True, one of my best friends is a Commodities Broker, been rich and poor in the same day, thing is if you are smart the odds are far better that you will end up rich and not poor. By the way commodities such as Gold and Silver are not the same as something like OJ or Lettuce, they stay good forever and the market does not disappear or the product rot.
 
Fenton said:
ObamaCare is not Socialist per se but it and its tax and cost increases still have had a disastrous effect on our economy.

Apparently the Left thinks you stimulate economic growth by fleecing the Middle Class of more and more of their discretionary income, by chasing off investment capital and businesses and through corrupt croney capitalist "investments " with tax payer dollars

Oh and through Central bank intervention so the Rich get richer

Im still not sure what you're celebrating about.

8 years of unprecedented Central Bank intervention isn't because we've been experiencing a amazing recovery

On the contrary.
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I gave you a "like" for NOT spelling it "per say". It shows pride in your communication.
 
clownboy said:
Wall Street is our national casino. This is what stock markets are, gambling operations.
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where is a better place to invest one's money?
 
justabubba said:
where is a better place to invest one's money?
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When its investment of last resort, no where.

Personally I rather see investment capital pumped back into our economy rather than kept in a Stock market thats been propped up with FED stimulus for the last 8 years
 
Fenton said:
When its investment of last resort, no where.
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investment - to me - is money you cannot afford to be without
so, there is no such thing as investment of last resort given my approach to placing funds at risk

Personally I rather see investment capital pumped back into our economy rather than kept in a Stock market thats been propped up with FED stimulus for the last 8 years
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that tells me you would rather have OTHERS place their at-risk monies in closely held ventures than the stock market
ok. not sure why you believe that is better

no one has yet offered a good alternative to investing money such that it provides better outcomes than in the stock market

if you have something, share it with us
 
justabubba said:
investment - to me - is money you cannot afford to be without
so, there is no such thing as investment of last resort given my approach to placing funds at risk


that tells me you would rather have OTHERS place their at-risk monies in closely held ventures than the stock market
ok. not sure why you believe that is better

no one has yet offered a good alternative to investing money such that it provides better outcomes than in the stock market

if you have something, share it with us
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Of last resort means investors are focused on simply protecting their principle as opposed to using that principle to earn extra income

The FEDs zero interest rate policies have forced investors out of fixed yield investments and into a equities market propped up with unprecedented monetary stimulus

Its ironic that the OPs using the Stock market as a indicator of Obama's successful economic policies when in fact, its jist ANOTHER indicator of just how sick the American economy is and has been since 2008.

After 8 years investors and Corporations, who have parked trillions of dollars off shore still lack the confidence needed to risk their principle in a American economy.
 
Fenton said:
Of last resort means investors are focused on simply protecting their principle as opposed to using that principle to earn extra income

The FEDs zero interest rate policies have forced investors out of fixed yield investments and into a equities market propped up with unprecedented monetary stimulus

Its ironic that the OPs using the Stock market as a indicator of Obama's successful economic policies when in fact, its jist ANOTHER indicator of just how sick the American economy is and has been since 2008.

After 8 years investors and Corporations, who have parked trillions of dollars off shore still lack the confidence needed to risk their principle in a American economy.
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The thing is inflation rates are still below Fed targets and raising rates risks deflation and recession. I know that is what you are hoping for. Conservatives love recessions.
 
iguanaman said:
The thing is inflation rates are still below Fed targets and raising rates risks deflation and recession. I know that is what you are hoping for. Conservatives love recessions.
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Lol...... You're the one thats posting bad economic indicators, not me.

So Low inflation with unprecedented monetary stimulus ?

QE increased the money supply, was supposed to be inflationary and it was supposed to incentivize Banks to start lending again, but over 80 % of all the new money created sits idle on the books of the FED marked as " excess reserves "

What happened ? Creating new money doesn't grow market economies or create jobs. It doesn't offset the consequences of horrible legislation like ObamaCare and it doesn't incentivize capital investment in our economy

It just loads up a bunch of stagnant money onto the Feds books and suppresses interest rates

Its what happens when you let progressives come up with their own ideas for fixing and or growing something they do not comprehend. Free market economies
 
justabubba said:
investment - to me - is money you cannot afford to be without
so, there is no such thing as investment of last resort given my approach to placing funds at risk


that tells me you would rather have OTHERS place their at-risk monies in closely held ventures than the stock market
ok. not sure why you believe that is better

no one has yet offered a good alternative to investing money such that it provides better outcomes than in the stock market

if you have something, share it with us
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I high lighted your last line....it is part of my philosophy of investment. If a broker has something that is a really good deal, why would he call me? I was a small investor all along. Surely he will share with his buddies, and that ain't you and me....
If I had something sure to invest in, I would buy into it to the max for me, THEN tell my friends, but why would I invite strangers?

The best investment for those nearing retirement is to shed all debt and then start positioning assets based on what is needed for retirement years.
 
Dittohead not! said:
[h=1]Dow notches 4-day winning streak, closes at record high[/h]



How can we possibly continue to feed the fear that the economic policies of the Obama Administration are causing the economy to tank?

This can't possibly be true!

Buy gold, buy gold!!!
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Its ironic that people like you were losing your **** claiming the markets would collapse PRIOR to Brexit, and now that things have (shockingly...right?) stabilized you claim THAT is due to Obamas policies.

This may come as a shock, but the markets fluctuate. They tank, they rebound, they shoot up, they correct. They have since there was a market. Thanks Obama.
 
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