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Ohio Votes Down Marijana Legalization

David_N said:
I give it another 20 years before pot is legal in all states. SSM surged in quite fast! Pot probably will not be that different.
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I'd say five give or take two.
 
David_N said:
So you believe laws shouldn't be changed at all? That's what people are trying to do. Besides, the war on drugs is a complete failure, and trying to control what people put in their bodies is ridiculous.
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Depends on if their drug addled bodies cost me any tax dollars.
 
American said:
Depends on if their
drug addled bodies
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cost me any tax dollars.
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Isn't that part of the basis upon which tobacco was declared vile? Who's gonna pay for all the lung cancer cases? I guess we'll have to consider taxing Big Weed into oblivion too, then.
 
humbolt said:
Isn't that part of the basis upon which tobacco was declared vile? Who's gonna pay for all the lung cancer cases? I guess we'll have to consider taxing Big Weed into oblivion too, then.
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Does anyone smoke 1/4 oz of weed a day, like many people do cigarettes?
 
David_N said:
Such a shame.. How is this good? I find it hilarious that conservatives want to keep pot illegal and control what people put in their own bodies.. Small gubment and all. Even if it's setup in an unfavorable way, I still don't see why it should be shot down. But that's opinion.
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It's good because it was a horribly written proposal. Why would you be in favor of granting a select few wealthy individuals a Constitutionally protected monopoly? Because that's exactly what Issue 3 would've done. Even proponents of legalization saw through the ruse.
 
David_N said:
So you believe laws shouldn't be changed at all? That's what people are trying to do. Besides, the war on drugs is a complete failure, and trying to control what people put in their bodies is ridiculous.
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Marijuana far more potent than it used to be, tests find - CBS News

No, the war on drugs is not a failure. Are laws against rape, theft, murder or assault a failure because they haven't eradicated that behavior ?

Nope. Do all laws cost money to enforce ? Yup.
 
countryboy said:
It's good because it was a horribly written proposal. Why would you be in favor of granting a select few wealthy individuals a Constitutionally protected monopoly? Because that's exactly what Issue 3 would've done. Even proponents of legalization saw through the ruse.
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Liberals seldom see that far ahead.
 
TurtleDude said:
excellent points but some of the talking heads said lots of socialists and other lefties were mad that rich investors (the ones who spent lots of money trying to get weed legal) might actually MAKE MONEY if pot was legalized.
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So, as a conservative you favor constitutionally mandated monopolies?
 
Lord of Planar said:
Does anyone smoke 1/4 oz of weed a day, like many people do cigarettes?
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I dunno. Some probably do, but it beats me. Personally, I'm stupid enough already. I have no interest in plumbing even greater depths of that phenomenon.
 
What a shame.

Regardless though marijuana will never be truly "legal" until the feds legalize it. So long as it remains federally illegal the FBI should shut down and charge whoever they want. The states may let you use it but if the feds don't you can still run into problems.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Is someone trying to legalize it for minors?
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No, but ER visits for minors in places like Colorado have shot up exponentially

And its a bit dishonest to claim legalization doesn't make access to a destructive chemical easier for everyone
 
David_N said:
Both parties want a big government ;)
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Actually it is Republicans who favor a authoritarian Govt. where morals and behavior is regulated by the State while business is allowed to use their might to abuse consumers. Might makes right and the little guy is there to be manipulated.
 
Fenton said:
Yes and they chose not to change it. And it has nothing to do with keeping people from injesting harmful chemicals.

You want to drink drano, or inject heroin then be my guest. It has to do with not inundating a community with a powerful phsycoactive chemical.

A community that I or some other individual has to raise their families in

And no, I doubt the attempted monopolization had any thing to do with this being voted down

The majority of pot heads wouldn't buy overpriced weed from a store anyway. They would still buy it from the local drug dealer at a fraction of the cost.

Just like their doing now in Colorado.
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Good grief, what a load of absolute horse****.
 
humbolt said:
I dunno. Some probably do, but it beats me. Personally, I'm stupid enough already. I have no interest in plumbing even greater depths of that phenomenon.
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I kind of doubt anyone can smoke that much, unless it's really bad quality.

That much would probably knock a person out as bad as drinking a gallon of 80 proof alcohol a day, but at least it wouldn't kill you.

If I smoke maybe 1/10th of a gram, that's probably the most I have ever smoked for a day. I don't need more than that, it would be too much. Trying to compare the carcinogenic effect of weed to cigarettes is ridiculously ignorant.
 
americanwoman said:
It was ridiculous the way they set it all up to be controlled by a small group, I'm sure that's why it failed like it did.
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Good observation - I suspect you are spot on with that.
 
Fenton said:
No, but ER visits for minors in places like Colorado have shot up exponentially

And its a bit dishonest to claim legalization doesn't make access to a destructive chemical easier for everyone
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Alcohol is worse than marijuana. It's legal.

I've never seen anyone in any health risk from marijuana, other than first time users freaking out and having a panic attack, because of the unexpected, and harmless sensations.
 
countryboy said:
Okay, Edgar Allan. Can I just call you Ed?
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Just cant figure out why someone's " right " to pickle their brain on a daily basis and to exist in a perpetual state of impairment supersedes my right to raise a family in a community not inundated with dangerous chemicals
 
Fenton said:
Just cant figure out why someone's " right " to pickle their brain on a daily basis and to exist in a perpetual state of impairment supersedes my right to raise a family in a community not inundated with dangerous chemicals
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I take it you never drink beer, wine, etc.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Alcohol is worse than marijuana. It's legal.

I've never seen anyone in any health risk from marijuana, other than first time users freaking out and having a panic attack, because of the unexpected, and harmless sensations.
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I never got the comparison argument and whether or not alcohol is worse than marijuana is debatable.

I can drink a couple of nice glasses of Scotch after work and not be effected the following day at all.

Not so with marijuana, especially the marijuana that's available today.

Chemicals should be judged on their specific characteristics , not on the effects of a ccompletely different substance.
 
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