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Mayor Thinks People on Welfare 'Flaunt It,' Has Plan to post welfare recipients info

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QuadpolarNutjob said:
there are millions of people who exploit welfare as a lifestyle choice. [/url]
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Credible source please....

Have you ever received any sort of welfare?
 
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I cant imagine why anyone would flaunt it. I got beat up in school for living in an apartment. Its not fun when people think you are poor!
 
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It's fairly obvious that the mayor has a brain hemorrhoid. It won't be long before they ship his incoherent ass off to the drool farm. Should we hope that he gets a few column inches in the local paper when it happens?

How much is it going to cost the local citizens to have the list published in the newspaper? And who pays for the inevitable law suits?
 
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a351 said:
Irresponsible governance, undoubtedly aimed at placating the portion of the GOP base who wish to dehumanize welfare recipients. Unfortunately this mentality is not uncommon.
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I wonder how you felt when the same info about gun owners was posted online.
 
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Risky Thicket said:
It's fairly obvious that the mayor has a brain hemorrhoid. It won't be long before they ship his incoherent ass off to the drool farm. Should we hope that he gets a few column inches in the local paper when it happens?

How much is it going to cost the local citizens to have the list published in the newspaper? And who pays for the inevitable law suits?
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Zero, the articles are paid for by subscribers and advertising.
 
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American said:
Zero, the articles are paid for by subscribers and advertising.
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Probably not. If the city submits weekly or daily lists to the paper it would likely have to pay to have the information published. There are a couple of reasons: editorial and legal. The public notice, which is what it would be, actually wouldn't cost that much. The paper is most unlikely to run the lists for free.

The boned headed and hateful idea is fraught with possible legal issues and for that reason alone the newspaper would not simply publish the list, though there are likely other reasons. IF the paper accepts the paid public notice from the city, and they might not, it would at least provide the newspaper some distance from legal actions.
 
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Moot said:
Welfare recipients buying food in a grocery store is 'flaunting it"? Looks more like the mayor is trying to flaunt his power over the vulnerable and needy.
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The flaunts should be appreciative of a website that would give them the chance to be the top name listed. "I'm number one! I'm number one!"

What type of person would actually go to that site? You know, more than once, to find that they don't know anyone on the list.
 
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How the heck is this NOT a constitutional violation of the right to privacy?
 
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Risky Thicket said:
Probably not. If the city submits weekly or daily lists to the paper it would likely have to pay to have the information published. There are a couple of reasons: editorial and legal. The public notice, which is what it would be, actually wouldn't cost that much. The paper is most unlikely to run the lists for free.

The boned headed and hateful idea is fraught with possible legal issues and for that reason alone the newspaper would not simply publish the list, though there are likely other reasons. IF the paper accepts the paid public notice from the city, and they might not, it would at least provide the newspaper some distance from legal actions.
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I'll agree when you agree posting addresses of gun owners is bad, because don't remember must hoohah about that when it came out.
 
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American said:
I wonder how you felt when the same info about gun owners was posted online.
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I'd feel the same way :shrug: Anything of substance to add to the topic?
 
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American said:
I'll agree when you agree posting addresses of gun owners is bad, because don't remember must hoohah about that when it came out.
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Don't know where you were hiding, but there was a huge "hoohah" when the names of gun owners was published.
 
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radcen said:
Don't know where you were hiding, but there was a huge "hoohah" when the names of gun owners was published.
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I mistyped, "don't" was not what I meant.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
The simple fact is that welfare (a reward for personal economic failure) does not fix any of those thousands of reasons (excuses?) that people seek it out. I agree that listing the names/addresses would not (directly) fix anything either, but it just may cause more focus on a better solution to the underlying economic (personal?) problems which welfare was supposed to help fix.
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It's not intended to. It's to prevent people from going without food, clothing and shelter.
 
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Kobie said:
It's not intended to. It's to prevent people from going without food, clothing and shelter.
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We are constantly told that "welfare" is temporary which at least implies that it was intended to fix something. If it is not designed to fix a problem then how could "welfare" be considered temporary?
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
We are constantly told that "welfare" is temporary which at least implies that it was intended to fix something. If it is not designed to fix a problem then how could "welfare" be considered temporary?
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That's like claiming a lifeboat is intended to "fix" the fact that your ship sank.
 
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Kobie said:
That's like claiming a lifeboat is intended to "fix" the fact that your ship sank.
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A lifeboat has a fixed cost and thus is more like UI than "welfare".
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
A lifeboat has a fixed cost and thus is more like UI than "welfare".
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Hey, I never said it was a perfect analogy.
 
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radcen said:
If we feel the need to shame those who are working the system, how about publishing those who have been on the dole for a long period of time, say 5 years? (Exempting people with legitimate mental and/or physical issues) That should preclude those who use it legitimately for its intended purpose as a temporary measure.
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You know that the lifetime limit is 5 years, don't you? That has been true since 1996.
 
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QuadpolarNutjob said:
i disagree regarding welfare recipients, these people are 100% dependent on the taxpayer
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Not always true. Many work, and work hard. However, they may not be making enough to support their family and require some assistance.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
However I would say that both are violations of peoples right to privacy and such laws should be thrown out.
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Real question: do we have a right to privacy from each other, or a right to privacy from the government? I'm not sure if this fits within the "search and seizure" amendment.

For instance - if I have an affair and I tell a friend in confidence, yet they tell someone else - what's the legal recourse there? Also, if an individual is being supported by a group of people who are supporting themselves, why the secrecy?

Mitt Romney was blasted because he kept his tax-returns private - why was that an issue? Because he was seeking a government paycheck via the presidency? Why was his sensitive information deemed less private than anyone else receiving/seeking a government paycheck?
 
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Oh great when one of those nut job militia people go off they would have a list to target.
 
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jet57 said:
rather than try and fix the problems - as usual - they just want to harass the poor.

If ya can't fix it, ya might as well make it worse.
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How, pray tell do you "fix" the problem?
 
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Renae said:
How, pray tell do you "fix" the problem?
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We start by putting up billboards with the faces of convicted welfare defrauders rather than just shaming the poor.

Secondly, we make "a thing" out of flushing out welfare fraud and the black market. We audit by county every six months or so.

We make "a thing" out of bringing back well paid trade work and punish employers who ire illegals in said trades.

That's a start. It's obvious that as a country we have no priority to stamp out poverty, or we would have done it by now.
 
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jet57 said:
We start by putting up billboards with the faces of convicted welfare defrauders rather than just shaming the poor.

Secondly, we make "a thing" out of flushing out welfare fraud and the black market. We audit by county every six months or so.

We make "a thing" out of bringing back well paid trade work and punish employers who ire illegals in said trades.

That's a start. It's obvious that as a country we have no priority to stamp out poverty, or we would have done it by now.
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Your plan sounds expensive and pointless. While I agree that auditing is a good idea (though some States already do hold the precipitants of welfare responsible for their actions) and bringing back real jobs is always a winner. and of course removing the illegal worker element will improve job security for millions of people. Putting peoples faces on billboards is grand standing at its lowest. And is a bit too despotism for my tastes.

As a nation we do care about poverty, but then we also recognize that some people dont care about getting themselves out of poverty. Freedom and liberty will always allow there to be poverty. Poverty will go away when people have no right to be lazy. But for those that are trying we should be more accommodating. So as to keep them out of poverty. But all that is hard when partisan hacks are fighting over their parties/factions BS.
 
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