JMak

The Obama campaign?

The JawaReport connects the dots between the Obama campaign, a major PR firm, and a variety of baseless anti-Palin smears being circulated by lefty bloggers. As he notes, "Within an hour of this post going up, YouTube videos implicating Ethan Winner were yanked, sockpuppet accounts deleted, and more importantly, the Wikipedia entry on David Axelrod began to edit out mentions of his well-known astroturfing campaigns."

If he were totally off base, would everything be coming down off the net?

Sure seems like somebody's got something to hide.

Seems pretty compelling to me...

I didn't realize that this would be representative of post-partisanship.

Chanda

What false rumors?

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JMak

The secessionist business. The radical anti-American views. Banning books and firing librarians.

Need I go on?

Simon W. Moon

Yes.

So far, you have listed things that could have resulted from errors in the retelling - like the 'telephone' game that you sometimes play as kids. The one where one person says something into the ear of the next and it is supposed to be repeated all the way around the circle. Usually, if not always it comes out horribly wrong at the other end. They each had something to them - though they were not actually what you have listed.

Palin did give an address to that odd political group.
The Wasila librarian is the one who said she had a conversation w/ Palin about a hypothetical request to remove certain, unnamed books.

As far as the other things - post hoc ergo propter hoc could account for them.

I like a little more substance personally.

If it's there, lets see it. I for one am completely ready to believe that politicos are playing dirty. But, what you have presented isn't that compelling of a case.

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Simon W. Moon

o yeah, fyi your link is broked

Chanda

The secessionist business--Palin's husband was an AIP member from 1995 to 2002. According to Vice Chairman of the AIP, Dexter Clark, "Our current governor who I mentioned at the last conference, the one we were hoping would get elected, Sarah Palin, did get elected . . . .and there was a lot of talk about her moving up. She was an AIP member before she got the job as mayor . . . " Dexter Clark may be mistaken, but he would be the source of the rumor.

Radical anti-American views: Secessionism is radically anti-American.

Banning books--Palin did ask the Wasilla librarian how to ban books, and she did fire the librarian who was reinstated by supporters. It isn't a rumor; it's a fact.

Please...

JMak

Oh, how about Palin being smeared as an anti-Semite for welcoming Pat Buchanan?

So far, you have listed things that could have resulted from errors in the retelling - like the 'telephone' game that you sometimes play as kids. The one where one person says something into the ear of the next and it is supposed to be repeated all the way around the circle. Usually, if not always it comes out horribly wrong at the other end. They each had something to them - though they were not actually what you have listed.[/quote]

That wasn't the case here, however.

She didn't personally appear and he rremarks would nothing at all supportive of the group's platform but instead discussed the importance of political groups and political competition.

However, the rumors were that she banned books and/or fired the librarian who wouldn't do as Palin allegedly demanded.

Could, but doesn't.

Well, as you said, the link is broken so you probably didn't see the site I linked to.

What I presented was simply indicating that someone else had connected the dots to a group unfairly and inaccurately smearing Palin. You apparently have not been able to view the site so why would you expect to be compelled by my mere citation?

Note: that link I provided worked less than 30 minutes ago. Now it doesn't work for me either. I'll try to fix it.

Here: The Jawa Report: Hope, Change, & Lies: Orchestrated "Grassroots" Smear Campaigns & the People that Run Them [Updated]

JMak

Uh, how does Todd Palin's membership and Clark's comments translate into Sarah Palin being supportive of Alaskan secession?

The librarian was never fired.

See here: FactCheck.org: Sliming Palin

Frolicking Dinosaurs

The 'Trig is Bristol's child' tale was being whispered around the state of Alaska before Palin even was the VP nominee. It started after people noticed Palin did not appear to be preggers only a month before the birth; Palin told the fantastic tale about her water breaking, making a speech, flying 13 hours and then driving 45 minutes while in labor with her fifth child; and after people found out her daughter was out of school for eight months with a disease that even in its severest form only last about four months.

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JMak

And while the whisper campaign there ended well before Palin was selected as VP, that it started up following her selection demonstrates that the mainstream media couldn't be bothered to do its actual job and relied on rumors from...someplace. Perhaps the link I cited is correct and it leads back to Obama.