Another KBR Rape Case - Page 2

UtahBill · 08-18-08, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

Your point is that the women are either nyphomaniacs who invited sex and complained about it, or should just accept rape is part of the job for a woman who works in a predominantly male environment and she shouldn't be able to complain because she should have expected it?

No, that is not my point, and if you had an iota of intelligence you would not be reading my post that way. If YOU want to make such allegations, start your own thread.....
Reading your other posts on other threads, you are a candidate for my ignore list. If that is what you want, go for it.

Iriemon · 08-18-08, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by UtahBill

No, that is not my point, and if you had an iota of intelligence you would not be reading my post that way. If YOU want to make such allegations, start your own thread.....
Reading your other posts on other threads, you are a candidate for my ignore list. If that is what you want, go for it.

Sure seemed that was your point from your post. If I was in error, what was your point?

Cardinal · 08-18-08, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by UtahBill

Not being a woman, I cannot understand their motivations for wanting to work in a predominantly male environment, especially when the sexual outlets available to those men are severly limited.
Back in my navy days, when they first started sending women sailors to GTMO, Cuba, I saw one woman whose motivations were obvious. She was as close to a nympho as I have ever seen. She could have been selling it for a small fortune, but gave it away to any and all who asked. She wasn't much to look at, but the male sailors could care less in the dark.
But that kind of woman is the smallest of minorities, I suppose.
Surely women taking jobs in such an environment know in advance the risks they are taking?

I think any women taking jobs in the military went into it assuming there was a rigid displinary structure with law breakers having full accountability for their actions, nymphomaniacs notwithstanding. I think that's the image most people have of our military.

Cardinal · 08-18-08, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

Sure seemed that was your point from your post. If I was in error, what was your point?

I think that's kind of a ridiculous conclusion to draw from his post. That's a rather Stinger-esque conclusion, in fact. I remember when he concluded that because democrats don't harp on "family values" as much as rebublicans do, it must mean that democrats support cheating on their wives.

I gues UtahBill has a more intimate understanding of the Navy's displinary structure than I do.

UtahBill · 08-18-08, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal

I think any women taking jobs in the military went into it assuming there was a rigid displinary structure with law breakers having full accountability for their actions, nymphomaniacs notwithstanding. I think that's the image most people have of our military.

True, but it is naiive to think that mere laws will fully protect you aqainst human nature....

Reverend_Hellh0und · 08-18-08, 11:56 AM

"like Blackwater and its deadly attack against Iraqi civilians on September 16, 2007"

I stopped reading right there, what utter spin.

Cardinal · 08-18-08, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by UtahBill

True, but it is naiive to think that mere laws will fully protect you aqainst human nature....

As I am not of the military-initiated mindset, my thinking was that as there is accountability for people giving in to criminal behavior in the civilian sector, that accoutability is much harsher in the military. I can't believe I'd be the only one to think that going into the military for the first time.

danarhea · 08-18-08, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

"like Blackwater and its deadly attack against Iraqi civilians on September 16, 2007"

I stopped reading right there, what utter spin.

Since the BUSH DoJ has already sent target letters to those Blackwater employees, and is about to indict them, I would say there is a lot more to it than spin. If they toasted civilians in a premeditated way, then they need to be held accountable.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 08-18-08, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by danarhea

Since the BUSH DoJ has already sent target letters to those Blackwater employees, and is about to indict them, I would say there is a lot more to it than spin. If they toasted civilians in a premeditated way, then they need to be held accountable.

So to those individuals you say?

So it was not "Blackwater's" attack on civillian, but turret gunner #3's alleged attack no?

UtahBill · 08-18-08, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal

As I am not of the military-initiated mindset, my thinking was that as there is accountability for people giving in to criminal behavior in the civilian sector, that accoutability is much harsher in the military. I can't believe I'd be the only one to think that going into the military for the first time.

It is a different environment, for sure. Back in the 70's, the military was a bit more sexist than the civilian world, may still be that way for all I know...