Bush, a failed Presidentcy. - Page 4

Sergeant Stinger1 · 05-24-08, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe

You're giving Bush too much credit. We do have a Congress, also. They happen to be a majority Democratic.

Clinton had a Republican majority in Congress.

People also have a responsibility to make sound choices and not get in over their heads with mortgages they can't afford. Then when they do make bad choices the government is supposed to bail them out? Our society is just way too spoiled.

MHO they've all had their hands in the pie. It's a screwed up world no matter who the President is.

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So, are you saying that the 1 year controlled Dem congress is responsible for all that bush screwed up?
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Well, if the auto manfactures can get bailed out why can't home owners?
Sure, we all make mistakes but that doesn't make people iresponsible.
Lets give some credit to the mortage lenders that gave these people more then they could afford to pay.
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OH! BTW:
Your right about ALL of them having their hands in the pie.

P/N · 05-24-08, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sergeant Stinger1

OH! BTW:
Your right about ALL of them having their hands in the pie.

And yet you only attack Bush? How honest of you...

Sergeant Stinger1 · 05-24-08, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by P/N

And yet you only attack Bush? How honest of you...

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Show me a pres who has ****ED UP more than Bush and i'll talk about them too.

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In case you don't remember bush sent thousands and thousands of our Troops into Iraq to die from a lie!

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bush is giving Americans the biggest screwing that we have ever had while he watchs and smiles at the big companys get fat with $$$$.
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So, yes! Thats why I am attacking bushy girly-boy.

P/N · 05-25-08, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sergeant Stinger1

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Show me a pres who has ****ED UP more than Bush and i'll talk about them too.

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In case you don't remember bush sent thousands and thousands of our Troops into Iraq to die from a lie!

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bush is giving Americans the biggest screwing that we have ever had while he watchs and smiles at the big companys get fat with $$$$.
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So, yes! Thats why I am attacking bushy girly-boy.

Let's see...how about Jimmy Carter, Andrew Johnson, Millard Fillmore or Lyndon Johnson? Carter destroyed the economy in this country (far more than Bush has done). Lyndon Johnson led (aided by JFK no less) us into Vietnam in which nearly 100,000 of our troops were killed. And for the record, just over 4,000 US troops have been killed in the Iraq War, but I know that doesn't sound like a big number such as, say, "thousands and thousands".

And oh yeah, care to give me that "lie" you speak of so I can debunk it for you? Or how about responding to my previous post where I debunked your emotional rant earlier in this thread? I won't hold my breath for your response.

As far as Bush giving Americans the "biggest screwing we have ever had", care to elaborate on that one as well? I'm sure it will be filled with a ton of emotionalism and full of rants that have no facts to support them, but go ahead and give it a try, I could use a good laugh.

And for the record, I'm not a big Bush supporter. He's screwed up just about everything he's done in his entire second term and Iraq was very poorly planned out. But at the same time, I'm going to defend him when it comes to emotional rants that ignore the facts much like, well...your posts for example. If you're here to debate, I'll expect a response from you. If your just here to rant, I suppose this will be the last I care to see of you, it's your call. But keep in mind that you need to take pesky things like FACTS into consideration because they will easily debunk your emotionalistic rants.

Sergeant Stinger1 · 05-28-08, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by P/N

Let's see...how about Jimmy Carter, Andrew Johnson, Millard Fillmore or Lyndon Johnson? Carter destroyed the economy in this country (far more than Bush has done). Lyndon Johnson led (aided by JFK no less) us into Vietnam in which nearly 100,000 of our troops were killed. And for the record, just over 4,000 US troops have been killed in the Iraq War, but I know that doesn't sound like a big number such as, say, "thousands and thousands".

And oh yeah, care to give me that "lie" you speak of so I can debunk it for you? Or how about responding to my previous post where I debunked your emotional rant earlier in this thread? I won't hold my breath for your response.

As far as Bush giving Americans the "biggest screwing we have ever had", care to elaborate on that one as well? I'm sure it will be filled with a ton of emotionalism and full of rants that have no facts to support them, but go ahead and give it a try, I could use a good laugh.

And for the record, I'm not a big Bush supporter. He's screwed up just about everything he's done in his entire second term and Iraq was very poorly planned out. But at the same time, I'm going to defend him when it comes to emotional rants that ignore the facts much like, well...your posts for example. If you're here to debate, I'll expect a response from you. If your just here to rant, I suppose this will be the last I care to see of you, it's your call. But keep in mind that you need to take pesky things like FACTS into consideration because they will easily debunk your emotionalistic rants.

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Hummmmm, FACTS?
WTF does, Carter, Johnson, fillmore have to do with bush-hole's failed Presidency?

NOTHING!
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What does Carter have to do with bushboy failing presidency?
NOTHING!
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All your other BS has nothing to do with bushieboys failed presidency.
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bushiegirlyboy has given us the biggest screwing.
YES! just look around and if you don't see it then your not looking for it.

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OH how bush asskissers like to say 'just over 4000 Troops have been killed compared every other war!
Maybe not to YOU but one of our Troops getting killed is equal to ANY amount of our Troops getting killed because they all get killed 'one at a time

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Eisenhower sent military advisers into Nam and that we all should know is followed by our Military.
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Hummmmm,. where are YOUR FACTS? All you do is talk about what other pres have done.

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So, your saying that bushs term was NOT a failed presidency?
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Come back with something worth reading!

P/N · 05-28-08, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sergeant Stinger1

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Hummmmm, FACTS?
WTF does, Carter, Johnson, fillmore have to do with bush-hole's failed Presidency?

NOTHING!
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What does Carter have to do with bushboy failing presidency?
NOTHING!
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All your other BS has nothing to do with bushieboys failed presidency.
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bushiegirlyboy has given us the biggest screwing.
YES! just look around and if you don't see it then your not looking for it.

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OH how bush asskissers like to say 'just over 4000 Troops have been killed compared every other war!
Maybe not to YOU but one of our Troops getting killed is equal to ANY amount of our Troops getting killed because they all get killed 'one at a time

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Eisenhower sent military advisers into Nam and that we all should know is followed by our Military.
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Hummmmm,. where are YOUR FACTS? All you do is talk about what other pres have done.

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So, your saying that bushs term was NOT a failed presidency?
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Come back with something worth reading!

You said to show you a President that has ****ed up more than Bush and I gave you four examples. You didn't provide me with that "lie" of which you speak, only more poorly worded emotional rhetoric. You still can't see that the casualties from the Iraq War are much, much lower than any war in our past that lasted even half this long. When I show that to you, you "return fire" with nothing but more emotionally charged rants repeating the same thing over and over again.

So, I'll pose this question to you: How exactly has "Bush given us the the biggest screwing"? Please respond with something coherent and fact based. Emotional rants are not debate when there aren't any facts to support them.

Goobieman · 05-28-08, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sergeant Stinger1

All your other BS has nothing to do with bushieboys failed presidency.

Except that it gives perspective, and as a result, illustrates just how much partisan bigotry there is on the left...

UtahBill · 05-28-08, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tashah

Right was posting as a member here. Beyond that, there is no unambiguous direction to his statement, and thus it can be interpreted in different ways.

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I love the way you talk dirty....

Sergeant Stinger1 · 05-28-08, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by P/N

You said to show you a President that has ****ed up more than Bush and I gave you four examples. You didn't provide me with that "lie" of which you speak, only more poorly worded emotional rhetoric. You still can't see that the casualties from the Iraq War are much, much lower than any war in our past that lasted even half this long. When I show that to you, you "return fire" with nothing but more emotionally charged rants repeating the same thing over and over again.

So, I'll pose this question to you: How exactly has "Bush given us the the biggest screwing"? Please respond with something coherent and fact based. Emotional rants are not debate when there aren't any facts to support them.

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OK! Lets start off with a few of bushs screwups:
1- Show me one pres that had us on the brink of bankruptcy while his oil buddys reported RECORD profits.
2- Show me one pres that had GASOLINE AND HOME HEATING OIL INCREASE the % that it went up now under bush.
3- Show me one Pres that sent our Troops to the front lines without the proper gear leaving our Troops familys PAYING for armour that they should have been giving to BEFORE going into battle.
4- Show me one pres that LIED to Congress to get them to go along with invading a country.
5- Show me one pres that invaded a country on a LIE causing 4,000 of our brave Troops to get killed.
6- Show me one pres that is as stupid as bush.
7- Show me one pres that did NOT fight a battle while NOT doing what our Generals say were the best methods.
8- Show me one pres that was told about an attack on U.S.A. soil and continued to read to 3rd graders for another 9 minutes.
9- Show me one pres that was a dumber speaker than bush.
10- Show me one pres that has taken a 1 TRILLION dollar surplus and turned it into a 3 TRILLION dollar deficit and counting.
11- Show me one pres that EVERYTHING we need to live with like food, home heating oil, gas to go to work with has gone up in record numbers without at least trying to correct the problem.
12- Show me one pres that had the amount of homes REPOSSED during their term.
13- Show me one pres that has taken a RECORD number of vacations like bush did AND still counting.
14- Show me one pres that closed MORE V.A. hospitals then bush.
15- Show me one pres had more familys filing for bankruptcy.
16- Show me one pres that had products comming in from China that are a health hazzard to us and our children and not at least try to do something about it.
17- Show me one pres that has borrowed MORE money from China and other countrys.
18- Show me one pres that had a DEFICIT as high as bush.
19- Show me one pres that has hurt the automotive business harder than bush.
20- Show me one pres that was a buddy of the ones that attacked us and sent the family of the one they said was responsible for the attack safely back home without at least intergating them about their Son-Brother.
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I have more but I have a feeling I am posting this for nothing because it seems that you will NEVER admit to them anyway.
OR will you?

bub · 05-28-08, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zyphlin

Moderator's Warning:

Tash, Middle, while I understand the back and forth and commend you for the civility of it there's no reason for it to be taking over the thread. I'll look at it, and we'll leave it at that.

In regards to mods. When posting as normal posters, we are no different than anyone else. I would imagine the mod team would be much less active, and much smaller, if we had to be mods and mods alone. We're not humans, nor saints. If we cross the line, report us just like anyone else and the mods will view it just as anyone else.

Now, back to discussing whether Bush is or isn't a failed presidency

...that explains many things!