The GITMO Bomber - Page 3

dirtpoorchris · 05-08-08, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Billo_Really

A former GITMO detainee has apparently become the latest suicide bomber in Iraq. I'm just wondering what the hell our tax dollars are paying for. Here we have someone who was clearly a threat and was released on bail. He was charged with trying to raise money for al Qaeda, but Christ, why do we lock up innocent people handed over to us far from the battlefield and let out someone who, for all intensive purposes, should be behind bars?

I don't know!

Are the neo's right about detaining people?

Or did this guy just want to get even because of his treatment?

Or what are doing saving Kuwaiti's like this guy?

I just don't know what to think about this...

Well getting back on topic... Obviously this guy fell through there awsome tight gnit grid. They had the guy. They let him go. He bombed. No matter what way you slice it either this method makes bombers or lets them slip. Goes to show you that money wins.

PeteEU · 05-09-08, 05:54 AM

Ex-Terror Detainee Says U.S. Tortured Him, Tells 60 Minutes He Was Held Underwater, Shocked And Suspended From the Ceiling - CBS News

An innocent person at GITMO

Innocent Afghan Detainees At Gitmo?, Some Guantanamo Bay Detainees Reportedly Hated The Taliban - CBS News

More innocent detaines

ABC News: EXCLUSIVE: Guantanamo's Innocents: Newly Released Prisoners Struggle to Find a Home

Again the chinese innocent men the US kept locked up.

The Washington Monthly

Justice?

82 Inmates Cleared but Still Held at Guantanamo - washingtonpost.com

82 innocent people, all held for a long time

So, again.. its okay to hold innnocent people as long as we get the one or two terrorists in the net?

dixon76710 · 05-09-08, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteEU

ane after all.

But saying that.. this is 1 out of 600+ people

Actually he is one of 36 Guantanamo detainees of the 400 that have been released, who are known to have gotten back in the fight after being released. 36 is just the ones we know about.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 05-09-08, 10:09 AM

[quote=PeteEU;1057609789]Ex-Terror Detainee Says U.S. Tortured Him, Tells 60 Minutes He Was Held Underwater, Shocked And Suspended From the Ceiling - CBS News

An innocent person at GITMO

Innocent Afghan Detainees At Gitmo?, Some Guantanamo Bay Detainees Reportedly Hated The Taliban - CBS News

More innocent detaines

ABC News: EXCLUSIVE: Guantanamo's Innocents: Newly Released Prisoners Struggle to Find a Home

Again the chinese innocent men the US kept locked up.

The Washington Monthly

Justice?

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82 Inmates Cleared but Still Held at Guantanamo - washingtonpost.com

82 innocent people, all held for a long time

So, again.. its okay to hold innnocent people as long as we get the one or two terrorists in the net?

From your article:

"U.S. officials are finding it increasingly difficult to line up places to send them....

In many cases, the prisoners' countries do not want them back. Yemen, for instance, has balked at accepting some of the 106 Yemeni nationals at Guantanamo by challenging the legality of their citizenship."

So they are not being imprisoned indefinatley because they are innocent here are they? is your argument so weak that you have to lie and act the farceur in these discussions? Please now. At least debate honestley.

Hatuey · 05-09-08, 02:52 PM

I love this thread's title. THE GITMO BOMBER! . After 6+ years we finally caught THE GITMO BOMBER! I'd love to know how many of those we have released have turned out to be terrorists. The count currently stands at 1. Anybody else? Truly this war has been a success when after 6 years ONE of the guys we released turned out to be a real terrorist. YAY! At this rate it'll only take 60,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years to end the war on terror.

Billo_Really · 05-09-08, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatuey

I love this thread's title. THE GITMO BOMBER! . After 6+ years we finally caught THE GITMO BOMBER! I'd love to know how many of those we have released have turned out to be terrorists. The count currently stands at 1. Anybody else? Truly this war has been a success when after 6 years ONE of the guys we released turned out to be a real terrorist. YAY! At this rate it'll only take 60,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years to end the war on terror.

When I first saw this story, those [the thread title] were the first 3 words that popped into my head.

Hatuey · 05-09-08, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Billo_Really

When I first saw this story, those [the thread title] were the first 3 words that popped into my head.

It feels like going to a ghetto grabbing 600 black men aged between 15-25 under the suspicion of them being drug dealers. Then when after 6 years of incarceration and you've released many and brought in new ones under the same suspicion, you claim that your anti-drug program is working because ONE of them turned out to be a real drug dealer. Fine policework.

Billo_Really · 05-09-08, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatuey

It feels like going to a ghetto grabbing 600 black men aged between 15-25 under the suspicion of them being drug dealers. Then when after 6 years of incarceration and you've released many and brought in new ones under the same suspicion, you claim that your anti-drug program is working because ONE of them turned out to be a real drug dealer. Fine policework.

Very good analogy.

dixon76710 · 05-09-08, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatuey

It feels like going to a ghetto grabbing 600 black men aged between 15-25 under the suspicion of them being drug dealers. Then when after 6 years of incarceration and you've released many and brought in new ones under the same suspicion, you claim that your anti-drug program is working because ONE of them turned out to be a real drug dealer. Fine policework.

These are not criminals they are combatants. I dont know where you guys get this idea that combatants captured in war need to be charged with a crime. And if they are not, we had no business holding them. Combatants are held in captivity so they can go back to being combatants. And 36 of the 400 are known to have gotten back in the fight either as terrorist or attacking western troops. And where do you get this idea that if they are guilty of certain behavior, they will return to that behavior when released, and if they do not, they must not have been guilty in the first place?

Billo_Really · 05-09-08, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dixon76710

These are not criminals they are combatants. I dont know where you guys get this idea that combatants captured in war need to be charged with a crime. And if they are not, we had no business holding them. Combatants are held in captivity so they can go back to being combatants. And 36 of the 400 are known to have gotten back in the fight either as terrorist or attacking western troops. And where do you get this idea that if they are guilty of certain behavior, they will return to that behavior when released, and if they do not, they must not have been guilty in the first place?

Many of those so-called combatants were never near a battlefield. They were handed over to us to settle grudges, for cash and faulty intelligence. Over 200 have already been released. Our own government has only charged a small percentage with any crimes. BTW, when you charge someone with a crime, and if convicted, they are a criminal.