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Old 05-08-08, 10:53 AM   #11 (permalink)
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funny how some believe the terrorists over the US military. No wait, that is not funny at all.
Where did I say that?

First off I dont consider anyone a "terrorist" before I see evidence that convinces me that he or she is.

Secondly, the track record of the US military is hardly good. We have had them planting "positive" stories in Iraq and US media, we have US media being lead around the nose by said military, and we have had the US military being exposed for not exactly telling the truth time and time again.

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Fact is this is what happens when you let war captured be released before the end of the conflict. Liberals never learn.
Now wait a sec.. war captured? You do know that quite a number of Gitmo inmates were "captured" in Pakistani cities, or even in Ghana and other countries that had nothing to do with Afganistan right? That business owners who were reported by rivals were shiped off to Gitmo and imprisoned for years.. just so the rival could take over the imprisoned business owners businesses?

And has nothing to do with "liberals", but common human descency. I guess you support the internment of the Japanese during WW2 then? those damn gooks.
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So would it be fair to say that you trust the terrorist savages as much as you trust the US military?
No it wouldn't. Trust them how? To tell the truth? I don't trust either. You are trying to paint a picture of me that isn't fair. I trust GySgt more than I do shery. But as far as official military statements, no, they aren't always honest, or competent with the facts. See Pat Tillman.



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Strawman.
It's not a straw man. It's an example of how the govt. makes mistakes. Are you saying that the military is inafallible?
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Where did I say that?

First off I dont consider anyone a "terrorist" before I see evidence that convinces me that he or she is.

Secondly, the track record of the US military is hardly good. We have had them planting "positive" stories in Iraq and US media, we have US media being lead around the nose by said military, and we have had the US military being exposed for not exactly telling the truth time and time again.

Wait you are confusing me. Do believe the terrorists more or the US military?


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Now wait a sec.. war captured? You do know that quite a number of Gitmo inmates were "captured" in Pakistani cities, or even in Ghana and other countries that had nothing to do with Afganistan right? That business owners who were reported by rivals were shiped off to Gitmo and imprisoned for years.. just so the rival could take over the imprisoned business owners businesses?
Prove this.

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And has nothing to do with "liberals", but common human descency. I guess you support the internment of the Japanese during WW2 then? those damn gooks.

1. The term Gook came out of the Korean War and I find your use of the word both insulting and distastful, showing a clear lack of class on your part.

2. It was a Liberal President Roosevelt who interned the Japanese and btw it was a Liberal in charge when the Tuskeggee syphillus experiments went on, but lets not get off topic here.


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According to Online Etymology Dictionary, "1899, U.S. military slang for 'Filipino' during the insurrection there, probably from a native word, or imitative of the babbling sound of their language to American ears (cf. barbarian). The term goo-goo eyes 'soft, seductive eyes' was in vogue c.1900 and may have contributed to this somehow. Extended over time to 'Nicaraguan,' 'any Pacific Islander' (World War II), 'Korean' (1950s), 'Vietnamese' and 'any Asian' (1960s)."

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According to Online Etymology Dictionary, "1899, U.S. military slang for 'Filipino' during the insurrection there, probably from a native word, or imitative of the babbling sound of their language to American ears (cf. barbarian). The term goo-goo eyes 'soft, seductive eyes' was in vogue c.1900 and may have contributed to this somehow. Extended over time to 'Nicaraguan,' 'any Pacific Islander' (World War II), 'Korean' (1950s), 'Vietnamese' and 'any Asian' (1960s)."

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This term was invented when Koreans saw the US Army coming to save their sorry asses. They shouted "미국! 미국! (Me gook! Me gook!)," meaning "American! American!" The privates heard this, and thought that the Koreans were telling them that they were called "gooks." It has since been used to refer to any azn person not a chink or jap, including Vietnam and all those other ones down there.


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This term was invented when Koreans saw the US Army coming to save their sorry asses. They shouted "미국! 미국! (Me gook! Me gook!)," meaning "American! American!" The privates heard this, and thought that the Koreans were telling them that they were called "gooks." It has since been used to refer to any azn person not a chink or jap, including Vietnam and all those other ones down there.


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Encylcopedia Dramatica?

You're kidding, right? You don't expect me to take your source seriously when it calls others "chink" and "jap"? This is weak.
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Wait you are confusing me. Do believe the terrorists more or the US military?
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I believe that this is the show I saw it on, but cant check atm, as my realplayer stuff is fubar

BBC NEWS | Programmes | Newsnight | Return from Guantanamo Bay

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1. The term Gook came out of the Korean War and I find your use of the word both insulting and distastful, showing a clear lack of class on your part.
Says the person that belives you are guilty and have to prove your innocence. I find that just as insulting and distastful if not more. At least the word "gook" dont kill people.

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2. It was a Liberal President Roosevelt who interned the Japanese and btw it was a Liberal in charge when the Tuskeggee syphillus experiments went on, but lets not get off topic here.

Japanese American internment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Oh yea I forgot, the right wingers at the time were defeatists Nazi sympathisers. Sorry but the internment of the Japanese was wrong pure and simple, regardless if it was a left or right wing goverment that put it in place. It was purely based on racist attitudes at the time. Why were Italians and Germans not intererned?
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Encylcopedia Dramatica?

You're kidding, right? You don't expect me to take your source seriously when it calls others "chink" and "jap"? This is weak.
screw the source. Its what I have heard all my life. me gook was "american" or something like "come here american" and GI's just started calling em gooks.

Its not something worth me going crazy over. Wherever you wanna believe its from is fine with me.
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Niether

That's a sad terror apologist stance you have there.


Do you believe the islamic-savage terrorists have a standin for thier actions as well?


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I believe that this is the show I saw it on, but cant check atm, as my realplayer stuff is fubar

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You have 1 instance out of how many?


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Says the person that belives you are guilty and have to prove your innocence. I find that just as insulting and distastful if not more. At least the word "gook" dont kill people.

I believe that if you capture a potential combatant you hold them for the duration of the war, but whatever makes you feel justified using the term "gook" man.

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Oh yea I forgot, the right wingers at the time were defeatists Nazi sympathisers. Sorry but the internment of the Japanese was wrong pure and simple, regardless if it was a left or right wing goverment that put it in place. It was purely based on racist attitudes at the time. Why were Italians and Germans not intererned?

Right wingers were Nazi sympathizers? Really?


What is the point of your off topic tangent here? Really?
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If Pete EU had ANYTHING resembling a point, he would have provided the evidence he was asked for. He hasn't got the evidence, because his assertion was never anything more than a smear accusation made from whole cloth against the Nation that has eclipsed his paltry "continent".
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