aegyptos

You want to take money away from serving soldier to give it to veterans? Does that really make sense?

How are you holding him accountable? Who can we hold accountable for the increase in the deficit? You?

That train left the station when the troops went into Iraq. Too bad Bush wasn't wiser at the time but the Congress approved of his plans and voted for it. Now we are all sorry but it seems, no wiser. The troops will be in Iraq for many years if not decades to come. Think of the future not the past.

Back to the matter at hand - Instead of coming up with new ways to spend money we have to cut spending. Cutting spending means cutting entitlements because that's where the real money is spent.

DivineComedy

We should bring the troops home and go back to the "peacetime" GI bill, uh, like the one they had during the Carter administration when I went to Military "A" School with Iranians in Memphis, when Afghanistan was invaded by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, when Socialist Saddam usurped power, and when I twiddled my thumbs in the barracks during the Ayatollah Khomeini's 444 days of glory in Iran.

Actually, I am with the "liberals" on this one, so slap me, someone please slap me...

I don't care if they get out after four years, damn hell, with all the lack of support for their mission they all deserve a freaking house and a college degree. Who is going to pay for it? If that is the question:

Bring the troops home right freaking now and transfer assets to maintaining a Navy. That will pay for it.

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Yeah, a wall and a border patrol will protect us. {sound of laughter}

new coup for you

presumably the cost

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And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride my bike.

TacticalEvilDan

You mean *gasp* use the fact that most military threats have to come at us over the ocean to reduce our military spending while simultaneously protecting our nation from outside attack?





Yeah, pretty much.

I figure between the Navy -- complete with carrier groups -- and the Marines, we really don't need squat all else for personal use.

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Chanda

The military budget also funds operations, equipment, etc. Why did you immediately think of taking away from salaries?

Right, obviously no one is holding him accountable.

More than that, it's a train wreck. “Measured in blood and treasure, the war in Iraq has achieved the status of a major war and a major debacle,” according to this week's National Defense University report, and "the outcome is in doubt."

IOW, get used to it? Is there no way to end the debacle? Do you know something the rest of us don't?

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Hatuey

The problem with this is that even terrorists have realized that they don't have to face our military to win. Just go around it. Case and point 9/11. Which is why I believe STRONGLY that good police work has stopped more terrorism then ANY multi billion dollar war ever has. Case and point the UK, Canada and so many others who's police officers have identified and neutralized threats long before they had a chance to strike.

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aegyptos

So you want to take away the troop's equipment and ops funds? Do you think that's wise? I'm sure the enemy would love to attack soldiers who don't have fuel or ammo. Could get messy. I know I'll do everything I can to make sure the democrats are blamed for the deaths that follow from the your party taking away funds from the troops. Obviously no democrat can stand to be accused of killing soldiers for poltitical reasons so it won't happen.

I don't think I know anything you can't know but yeah, get used to it. Get used to America soldiers dying in Iraq for many years to come - all through the next presidency for instance.

TacticalEvilDan

Emphasis mine.

I believe you are correct. Within our own borders we have to depend on our police, since the military is not allowed to act in such a capacity on our soil.

That's why I specified military threats, versus threats in general. Military threats come in the form of armies and planes and boats.

Chanda

No. Equipment and operations are broad terms.

I agree, Republicans will steal this election, too.

aegyptos

Any time a repub has won since Reagan its been a stolen election, hasn't it?