DivineComedy

1996? I think that was a good year for the Clinton Body-Count.

Maybe it is monsters from the Id.

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Yeah, a wall and a border patrol will protect us. {sound of laughter}

Rev.

Clearly, it depends on what your definition of "sniper fire" is...

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rsixing

As I stated on another thread one time, Americas collective memory is short. If it were not Clinton wouldn't even be in the running for the dem nom given the scandalous last 20 years.

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alphieb

What? "Scandalous".....ummm, how what evidence do you have? The conversatives have been trying for years to uncover some damning stuff on the Clintons, where is it? The Bosnia crap? Oh please.........Is that it?

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rsixing

If you can trust someone like Clinton more power to you. I won't judge you on your support of her.

mpg

Let me remind you that you merely asked for evidence rather than proof, but at least one of these was proven. The others have plenty of evidence.

Let's start with Whitewater. The taxpayers lost $60 million on a bogus land deal. The Clintons were two of the partners in that deal along with some of their friends. Hillary was the lawyer in charge of the deal. Their friends/partners went to jail. One of them (Judge Hale) testified against the Clintons but apparently a single witness wasn't enough for indictments. Another friend/witness (Susan MacDougal) refused to testify and was rewarded with a pardon from Bill. When Bill became president he fired the federal prosecutor who was already investigating the case.

Travelgate - Not only did Clinton fire the staff of the White House Travel Office and replace them with cronies, he falsely accused them of corruption to make it look like he was cleaning up the White House.

Vince Foster - We'll never know whether he was murdered or committed suicide but we DO know that a massive coverup took place following his death and that Hillary was at least partially involved in that coverup.

Lincoln Bedroom - It was rented out like a hotel room to raise cash for Bill's reelection campaign. That's illegal.

Selling a burial plot in Arlington National Cemetery to a big donor - I'm not sure whether or not it was illegal but it was certainly disgusting and "scandalous".

White House coffees - Many fund raisers were held at the White House which was/is illegal. But wait, there's more. Some of the people attending those fund raisers were unsavory types such as a drug smuggler and a gun runner. Normally people like that wouldn't be given access to the White House but the veteran FBI agent who was in charge of background checks on visitors said that he wasn't allowed to do his job.

Chinagate - This is the big one. The PRC was given top secret info and they also gave millions to Bill's reelection campaign. Bill had key roles in both halves of that scandal. I can go into a lot more detail about this one if you like. I attended some of the Senate hearings and was interviewed by a reporter for the Houston Chronicle. He made my name the first words in a front page article.

Ron Brown - He died in a plane which crashed but there was also a hole in his head which resembled a bullet hole and didn't look like it was caused by any part of the plane. He had a lot of knowledge about Chinagate. For some reason an autopsy wasn't performed but an x-ray of his body showed something which looked like a bullet.

Kathleen Willey - She was a Democrat and long time friend of Bill who accused him of sexually assaulting her in the White House.

Obstruction of Justice
- Perjury was proven by the blue dress.
- Betty Curry (Bill's secretary) accused Bill of trying to influence her testimony about Kathleen Willey.

Filegate - We don't know who committed the crime but it had to be someone from the Clinton Administration and Bill was the beneficiary of the crime. It was an invasion of privacy which makes unwarranted wiretaps pale in comparison.

Juanita Broadrick - She was another Democrat and long time friend who accused Bill of raping her.

Mark Rich - This was perfectly legal but it doesn't pass the smell test. He was pardoned by Bill for no apparent reason other than a big campaign donation.

That's all that I can think of for now. All of that was off the top of my head.

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rsixing

Another point is if she "mis-spoke", 3 to 4 times depending on who you are listening too, and has attributed it to lack of sleep, 3 to 4 times depending on who you are listening to, how can she be ready to answer that phone call at 3am?

Sir Loin

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SmilesAndFrowns

Dont worry, she only "misspoke" LOL! A whole dialogoue of so called misspeaking. Interesting. You had to skip out on meeting the little kids and shaking hands with people on the tar mat because of sniper fire, what a picture of you shaking hands on CNN.com, OHNO, Busted talking bull. To bad American media pays attention really really well.

Curious George

I don't understand how she misspoke. After thinking about it on and off for a few days here's the most plausible thing I've come up with.

- The secret service probably did tell her to sit on her vest.
- They probably did tell her there could be some danger from sniper fire- at the aircraft from the ground on the way in, not at the airport.
- They probably did make an "evasive landing," which is to say they came in faster and put the aircraft down more quickly than they normally would so as to avoid exposing it to possible sniper fire, rockets, etc.
- The greeting ceremony might've been toned down a bit so that they didn't spend as much time outside (it looked more informal than most).
- She exaggerated by saying that there was actual sniper fire (rather than a fear of sniper fire) and further exaggerated by saying that they all rushed to their cars with their heads down as opposed to the truth, which was that it was a more informal, shorter ceremony because of security issues.

To think that she would retell the story that way 3 to 4 times though (I heard at least 2) is a little confusing. I can understand exaggerating once, but more than that and it becomes less exaggeration and more lie.