HuffPo Wildly Asserts Federal Courts Could ‘Install’ Clinton As President Because Rus

HuffPo Wildly Asserts Federal Courts Could ‘Install’ Clinton As President Because Russia

Seizing on a breaking report that the CIA has concluded Russia worked covertly to help Trump win the election, Alex Mojaher writes in HuffPo the findings could be enough for a federal court to “invalidate” Trump’s win. “Russian Interference Could Give Courts Legal Authority To Install Clinton,” the headline reads.

Reports from The Washington Post and New York Times on the CIA’s conclusion Friday are conflicting regarding the extent to which Russia did interfere, and whether the country was in fact trying to help Trump. Citing senior Obama administration officials, TheNYT reports the CIA concluded with “high confidence” that Russia was intentionally working to elect Trump and harm Clinton’s chances. That lines up with WaPo’s report.

But later in the same story, TheNYT reports it is “far from clear” Russia originally intended to help Trump, and says many intelligence officials and even Clinton campaign officials think Russia was trying to undermine the integrity of the election, not help Trump directly.

Of course, even if Russia was trying to help Trump win, turning over hacked emails to the American press does not constitute voter fraud. But Mojaher seems determined to stoke the irrational hopes of Clinton supporters who still have not accepted the result of the election, even as he undermines his own assertion over and over in the story.​

But, by all means - continue to fan the flames of war on American soil...

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First it was a cry that there was election fraud...from the loser's side who originally said it could never happen.

Then it was demands to eliminate the Electoral College vote and elect Hillary on the basis of the "popular vote."

Then it was calls to subvert Republican Electors pledged to Trump to vote for Hillary instead.

Then it was recount efforts from, of all people, the Green candidate who got the least votes of the top four. Only focusing on those States where it was a close win for Trump while ignoring States with the same margin who went for Hillary.

Then it was cries of "do-over" because Russia must have influenced the vote by WikiLeak's publishing all those FACTUAL emails they are accused of hacking from the DNC and Podesta.

Now, it's a cry to have the Federal Court system step in for the same reason and just give her the Presidency? :doh

Geez, so much whining and crying from these sore losers it reminds me of little children throwing mega-tantrums until they get their way. :coffeepap:

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Abbazorkzog said:

HuffPo Wildly Asserts Federal Courts Could ‘Install’ Clinton As President Because Russia

Seizing on a breaking report that the CIA has concluded Russia worked covertly to help Trump win the election, Alex Mojaher writes in HuffPo the findings could be enough for a federal court to “invalidate” Trump’s win. “Russian Interference Could Give Courts Legal Authority To Install Clinton,” the headline reads.

Reports from The Washington Post and New York Times on the CIA’s conclusion Friday are conflicting regarding the extent to which Russia did interfere, and whether the country was in fact trying to help Trump. Citing senior Obama administration officials, TheNYT reports the CIA concluded with “high confidence” that Russia was intentionally working to elect Trump and harm Clinton’s chances. That lines up with WaPo’s report.

But later in the same story, TheNYT reports it is “far from clear” Russia originally intended to help Trump, and says many intelligence officials and even Clinton campaign officials think Russia was trying to undermine the integrity of the election, not help Trump directly.

Of course, even if Russia was trying to help Trump win, turning over hacked emails to the American press does not constitute voter fraud. But Mojaher seems determined to stoke the irrational hopes of Clinton supporters who still have not accepted the result of the election, even as he undermines his own assertion over and over in the story.​

But, by all means - continue to fan the flames of war on American soil...

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Figures. The Huffington Post lost their ****ing mind when Trump won.

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Partisan media source says something stupid. Color me SHOCKED.

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Abbazorkzog said:

HuffPo Wildly Asserts Federal Courts Could ‘Install’ Clinton As President Because Russia

Seizing on a breaking report that the CIA has concluded Russia worked covertly to help Trump win the election, Alex Mojaher writes in HuffPo the findings could be enough for a federal court to “invalidate” Trump’s win. “Russian Interference Could Give Courts Legal Authority To Install Clinton,” the headline reads.

Reports from The Washington Post and New York Times on the CIA’s conclusion Friday are conflicting regarding the extent to which Russia did interfere, and whether the country was in fact trying to help Trump. Citing senior Obama administration officials, TheNYT reports the CIA concluded with “high confidence” that Russia was intentionally working to elect Trump and harm Clinton’s chances. That lines up with WaPo’s report.

But later in the same story, TheNYT reports it is “far from clear” Russia originally intended to help Trump, and says many intelligence officials and even Clinton campaign officials think Russia was trying to undermine the integrity of the election, not help Trump directly.

Of course, even if Russia was trying to help Trump win, turning over hacked emails to the American press does not constitute voter fraud. But Mojaher seems determined to stoke the irrational hopes of Clinton supporters who still have not accepted the result of the election, even as he undermines his own assertion over and over in the story.​

But, by all means - continue to fan the flames of war on American soil...

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Some on the left are going nuts, like bat**** crazy nuts. First it was the recount that was needed for no reason. Then I noticed that they started to make a big deal about fake news and then left leaning fake news began to pop up all over the place. Now this. This is going to be a long eight years for them. Thankfully I find it amusing to watch.

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NonoBadDog said:

Some on the left are going nuts, like bat**** crazy nuts. First it was the recount that was needed for no reason. Then I noticed that they started to make a big deal about fake news and then left leaning fake news began to pop up all over the place. Now this. This is going to be a long eight years for them. Thankfully I find it amusing to watch.

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Yeah, it's only the left going nuts. :roll:

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Kobie said:

Yeah, it's only the left going nuts. :roll:

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This country is nuts. Both the Left and Right Americans. Or so it would seem.

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This ranks right up there with the claim that we could do the election over again .

Some people dont even try to process reality anymore.

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Kobie said:

Yeah, it's only the left going nuts. :roll:

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Pretty much. I didn't see the right screaming for recounts for something that could be regardless of a lack of evidence.

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NonoBadDog said:

Some on the left are going nuts, like bat**** crazy nuts. First it was the recount that was needed for no reason. Then I noticed that they started to make a big deal about fake news and then left leaning fake news began to pop up all over the place. Now this. This is going to be a long eight years for them. Thankfully I find it amusing to watch.

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Ya and I just saw today where Trump said that he is very open to doing eight years.

Damn, I was wrong on that.

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NonoBadDog said:

Pretty much. I didn't see the right screaming for recounts for something that could be regardless of a lack of evidence.

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Well, the Right (namely the GOP establishment) seem hellbent on dragging us kicking and screaming into a war with a nonexistent Soviet Union, spearheaded by partisan chicken-hawks from both parties who are primarily white men that have sat and festered on Capital Hill for decades and have thus so become disconnected from any semblance of reality or the world outside of the walls of Congress...

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NonoBadDog said:

Pretty much. I didn't see the right screaming for recounts for something that could be regardless of a lack of evidence.

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1. Recounts are part of the process.

2. I seem to recall, not four scant years ago, our current president-elect screaming like a bitch about the electoral college being a travesty because Romney won the popular vote (hours before the west coast returns came in and Romney did not win the popular vote). I also recall our current president-elect claiming that he actually WON the popular vote, thanks to millions upon millions of illegal immigrants voting, the idea of which he nor anyone else can support with facts.

Yep, just "the left."

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Abbazorkzog said:

Well, the Right (namely the GOP establishment) seem hellbent on dragging us kicking and screaming into a war with a nonexistent Soviet Union, spearheaded by partisan chicken-hawks from both parties who are primarily white men that have sat and festered on Capital Hill for decades and have thus so become disconnected from any semblance of reality or the world outside of the walls of Congress...

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Both sides were hell bent on dragging us into another war. What does that have to do with this election?

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As if any court would so flagrantly ignore the constitutional separation of powers as to try to undo a very clear victory in a presidential election. Judges can be impeached and removed, too, and any judge foolish enough to try such a stunt would be asking for that. The people have spoken, and if their decision makes collectivist dim bulbs pouty, that's just too damn bad.

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Kobie said:

1. Recounts are part of the process.

2. I seem to recall, not four scant years ago, our current president-elect screaming like a bitch about the electoral college being a travesty because Romney won the popular vote (hours before the west coast returns came in and Romney did not win the popular vote). I also recall our current president-elect claiming that he actually WON the popular vote, thanks to millions upon millions of illegal immigrants voting, the idea of which he nor anyone else can support with facts.

Yep, just "the left."

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The recount in Michigan was a waste of money and stopped because there wasn't any legal or common sense reason for it.

I never raised hell about Obama winning the last election. I wasn't happy but he won. There was no argument about it.

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Kobie said:

1. Recounts are part of the process.

2. I seem to recall, not four scant years ago, our current president-elect screaming like a bitch about the electoral college being a travesty because Romney won the popular vote (hours before the west coast returns came in and Romney did not win the popular vote). I also recall our current president-elect claiming that he actually WON the popular vote, thanks to millions upon millions of illegal immigrants voting, the idea of which he nor anyone else can support with facts.

Yep, just "the left."

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I said, "some on the left". Not "the left".

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NonoBadDog said:

The recount in Michigan was a waste of money and stopped because there wasn't any legal or common sense reason for it.

I never raised hell about Obama winning the last election. I wasn't happy but he won. There was no argument about it.

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Okay. And ... ?

There was no argument about Obama in 2012 because he won going away. And if you're going to claim that Republicans don't demand recounts or contest elections, I will happily point you in the direction of Minnesota.

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Kobie said:

Okay. And ... ?

There was no argument about Obama in 2012 because he won going away. And if you're going to claim that Republicans don't demand recounts or contest elections, I will happily point you in the direction of Minnesota.

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I am not going to research something that you want to talk about. If you want to make a claim then present the material and then we can talk about it.

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NonoBadDog said:

I said, "some on the left". Not "the left".

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Yes, "some on the left." Ignoring the "some on the right" also losing their minds.

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Kobie said:

Yes, "some on the left." Ignoring the "some on the right" also losing their minds.

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I have to agree. Some on the right never had a mind to lose but it seems that some on the left seem to be more active in the area of bat**** crazy lately.

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NonoBadDog said:

I have to agree. Some on the right never had a mind to lose but it seems that some on the left seem to be more active in the area of bat**** crazy lately.

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#NEVERTRUMP made a valiant effort for the BAT****CRAZY trophy.

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Hawkeye10 said:

#NEVERTRUMP made a valiant effort for the BAT****CRAZY trophy.

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I can see where neverturmpers were coming from. I wasn't going to vote for him until stuff started coming out from Wikileaks. My vote still didn't count as I am from Colorado and the state went Clinton. I still see the guy as the lesser of two evils but I have higher hopes than I did before the election.

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Captain Adverse said:

Then it was recount efforts from, of all people, the Green candidate who got the least votes of the top four. Only focusing on those States where it was a close win for Trump while ignoring States with the same margin who went for Hillary.

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I agree with the rest of what you say about the so-called Left being super sour grapes, but this one I don't understand. They have a right to do a recount, and Stein has even stated that she doesn't think it will change the election results. It is simply about making sure that the machines weren't being tampered with. Given the stories and insinuations that went on during the primaries, I think we owe it to America to double check the states where there's an outside chance things could stack differently, and if they do, the American people have a literal right to know. I just don't see how this case is sour grapes.

PS: I haven't read anyone who said maybe there should be a repeat of the election. I would love to argue with one of these people, particularly given that those same asshats were chanting sour grapes at Sanders supporters in July. LOL.

Kobie said:

Yeah, it's only the left going nuts. :roll:

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Yeah, the whole county is on the verge of a mental breakdown. I'm not certain what this forebodes. I'm not sure where we go from here. I thought Trump winning the election would really open the doors for Sanders and Warren to really build a strong coalition inside of the Democratic party. But if I'm not mistaken, the DNC is going to reject Ellison as chairman. I really, really hope I'm wrong, but I watched the primary, so I know how this goes. And if that fails, I will join the people going nuts, because going crazy seems like a rational response to American "democracy." Because at that point, nothing can get done from within the electoral system. The only thing that can happen is through protests and citizens' organizations.

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FieldTheorist said:

I agree with the rest of what you say about the so-called Left being super sour grapes, but this one I don't understand. They have a right to do a recount, and Stein has even stated that she doesn't think it will change the election results. It is simply about making sure that the machines weren't being tampered with. Given the stories and insinuations that went on during the primaries, I think we owe it to America to double check the states where there's an outside chance things could stack differently, and if they do, the American people have a literal right to know. I just don't see how this case is sour grapes.

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Well if this were truly the case then why pick ONLY the three states Hillary expected to win but lost by between 1 - 3%?

A person truly interested in "making sure things weren't tampered with" would have sampled both Trump win AND Hillary win States where the margin was 1 - 3%.

Yet she chose the three "Blue" States where a challenge would reduce Trumps EC by just enough votes to give him less than 270...allowing the possibility for those Elector's certifications to be objected to by Congress if the issue isn't resolved timely.

And really, do you believe she honestly thought Russian hacking of election machines in those three States (a "theory" which the recounts done so far have NOT supported) cost Hillary the election?

Talk about conspiracy theories :roll:

FieldTheorist said:

PS: I haven't read anyone who said maybe there should be a repeat of the election. I would love to argue with one of these people, particularly given that those same asshats were chanting sour grapes at Sanders supporters in July. LOL.

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Then you missed this thread by Calamity:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/gener...r-cia-op-suggests-we-hold-new-election-9.html

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FieldTheorist said:

I agree with the rest of what you say about the so-called Left being super sour grapes, but this one I don't understand. They have a right to do a recount, and Stein has even stated that she doesn't think it will change the election results. It is simply about making sure that the machines weren't being tampered with. Given the stories and insinuations that went on during the primaries, I think we owe it to America to double check the states where there's an outside chance things could stack differently, and if they do, the American people have a literal right to know. I just don't see how this case is sour grapes.

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As judges have ruled she doesn't have standing or evidence for a recount. she has been shot down by 1 federal judge already and a state judge in PA.
a federal judge will rule today on PA given there is 1 day to do a recount he should rule against her as she missed the deadline.

The change in WI was less than 100 votes so unless 23k votes come out of no where in Milwaukee absentee ballots then trump will win.
in MI you have to prove that you have an aggrieved candidate and some kind of fraud took place.

Stein had no evidence.

PS: I haven't read anyone who said maybe there should be a repeat of the election. I would love to argue with one of these people, particularly given that those same asshats were chanting sour grapes at Sanders supporters in July. LOL.

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There is nothing in the constitution for a repeat election. I would say that would be quite unfair to the previous winner.

Yeah, the whole county is on the verge of a mental breakdown. I'm not certain what this forebodes. I'm not sure where we go from here. I thought Trump winning the election would really open the doors for Sanders and Warren to really build a strong coalition inside of the Democratic party. But if I'm not mistaken, the DNC is going to reject Ellison as chairman. I really, really hope I'm wrong, but I watched the primary, so I know how this goes. And if that fails, I will join the people going nuts, because going crazy seems like a rational response to American "democracy." Because at that point, nothing can get done from within the electoral system. The only thing that can happen is through protests and citizens' organizations.

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It shows how weak minded people are.
Yes because irrationality serves such a great purpose.

The electoral system worked the way that it should have worked.
there is no reason that 2 states and a couple of major cities in the US should determine who the president will be.

the president is supposed to represent all states not just those with large population centers which was the main argument against a popular vote to begin with.