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NYT: Hillary Clinton Personally Signed Off on Job Change for Huma Abedin......

pbrauer said:
Okay if you insist. :lamo:lamo :lamo :lamo
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I insisted on nothing. I just mentioned that you aren't in a position to be laughing about your preferred situation.
 
humbolt said:
I insisted on nothing. I just mentioned that you aren't in a position to be laughing about your preferred situation.
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They also forget that as soon as Repub takes the WH. That any laws Hillary broke. She then can be dealt with. Her and her people.

Either way.....one thing is for certain. There are going to be many Clintonistas ran out of government. Next we should run them out of the country.
 
MMC said:
They also forget that as soon as Repub takes the WH. That any laws Hillary broke. She then can be dealt with. Her and her people.

Either way.....one thing is for certain. There are going to be many Clintonistas ran out of government. Next we should run them out of the country.
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I don't know where they're going to go. Before it's over with, a lot of foreign would-be players are going to be exposed. I think Bimini is a possibility.
 
MMC said:
Mornin AT. :2wave: She has sworn under penalty of Perjury her statements were true concerning the Emails. It appears they now have her for one count of Perjury. She didn't have anything to do with it, she said. Now her signature shows she not only was involved. She created the position for Abedin.

Its time for all citizens to start going after the FBI and jumping on them about doing their job. Reminding them.....they won't be allowed to give any free pass to Hillary at all.

They already know Clinton also lied about how many private Hillary.com accounts she had. Now they know both Abedin and Mills were using one. That's two counts of perjury. Papers should start to be made up. ASAP!
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Trouble is, the FBI is part of the executive branch--meaning that its marching orders finally come from President Pinocchio. I can't see him ever raising a finger against his fellow Marxist.
 
annata said:
true. but i'm looking at this s politics too.
afterall I wouldn't care that much if this incompetent, arrogant, dissembling wench wasn't on a track for POTUS..

And you know how quickly the press would turn to her side, being persecuted by those mean ole Republicans..
So in essence it comes down to that testimony, to damage her.

I doubt she's going to be prosecuted -the classified data laws have wiggle room,and wiggle she will.
But I have faith that Gowdy ( if anybody) can nail her on some lies.

Will it keep her from the nomination? Not by itself. The Democrats don't care enough to toss her.

So all this means she needs to be politically wounded , and the Repubs need to nominate somebody who can beat her.
Her damage to Libya and Syria is done, I just don't want to give her any more chances to screw things up.
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This?

this, by itself would likely not generate a headline. So, she arranged to keep a trusted aide and blew away some red tape......blah blah, the socialist choir would have that chimed down by the afternoon.

However,


There is a pattern emerging here. An ugly pattern of privilege, deceit and deliberate dishonesty. Testify, not testify who cares now? At best you will get the usual Clintonese, where she has been coached so well to reduce everything to over simplistic form and have it dismissed.
What matters now is the image in the mind of the voter, her pattern. And she is taking a sit kicking in the backs of the minds of the voters, the worst possible place a politician ever wants to be.

Hilary is descendant, her star may shine, but lower in the sky, she is becoming the "hold your nose" candidate. Now, a brand new little ugly thing crawls out from under a rock.....

....at a time when the voter is clearly in backlash mode, tired as **** of all the double talk, sleaze, lies, privilege and general bull****. When a turd like Trump can lead the polls, YOU KNOW people are pissed off. And they are pissed off at?

See above, privilege, sleaze, elitism, partisan bickering and all these wonderful promises, promises they say will "fix" things, but nothing ever changes. I have been hearing the same **** about illegals for 40 years. Four ****ing decades and the only thing that has changed is the numbers and the lies. For fifty plus years I have been hearing the exact same **** about gun control after every mass killing, of which there are too many, but that part of the equation simply is never addressed, never talked about. Not. One. Thing. Has. Changed.

Soon, maybe this election cycle, I sure as **** hope, the populace is going to go crazy, I have seen it many times. When the PQ were elected in Quebec, the Conservatives in Saskatchewan, the NDP here.....but they erupt and say enough is enough and vote OUT what was there, what comes IN becomes irrelevant.

The madness/mood is change. Period. Change for the sake of change, anyone who seems to be making sense. Buy it, worry about the warranty later. In this milieu it is now really unlikely, amid this pile of privileged goo, anyone wanting change would tilt in her direction, it is impossible for her to claim "reformer"...she's old school, play the system, take every advantage and lie when your husband ****s another woman.

The garbage accumulates, but I'm wondering, if this mood for change is real and strong enough, is she even relevant, when one is looking for a new broom, I doubt one would shop at Hilary's
 
MMC said:
Well AT.....she can always take the 5th. There is no reason to treat her with respect anymore. No need for powder puff gloves. As clearly she thinks she can disrespect the entire nation, and get away with it. Like I said.....she thinks she can. Now some others are about done with this and will apply pressure where it hurts. It was good to see Fournier slam her and then tell her.....time to come clean, and not with a cloth.

Its time for people to start treating her like she deserves. But more importantly.....all those on her Team out trying to protect her. These are the people that we want to go after and destroy their very livelihoods. Running them out of government forever!
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You're just attacking her because you are threatened by the fact she is an intelligent, powerful woman! When will the Repugnican haters ever stop this war against women?
 
humbolt said:
I insisted on nothing. I just mentioned that you aren't in a position to be laughing about your preferred situation.
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I think I am in that position. Even if she was guiltily of your charges, there little chance she be indicted on flimsy charges. Can you see what would happen to our country if a major candidate were indicted?
 
Fearandloathing said:
This?

this, by itself would likely not generate a headline. So, she arranged to keep a trusted aide and blew away some red tape......blah blah, the socialist choir would have that chimed down by the afternoon.

However,


There is a pattern emerging here. An ugly pattern of privilege, deceit and deliberate dishonesty. Testify, not testify who cares now? At best you will get the usual Clintonese, where she has been coached so well to reduce everything to over simplistic form and have it dismissed.
What matters now is the image in the mind of the voter, her pattern. And she is taking a sit kicking in the backs of the minds of the voters, the worst possible place a politician ever wants to be.

Hilary is descendant, her star may shine, but lower in the sky, she is becoming the "hold your nose" candidate. Now, a brand new little ugly thing crawls out from under a rock.....

....at a time when the voter is clearly in backlash mode, tired as **** of all the double talk, sleaze, lies, privilege and general bull****. When a turd like Trump can lead the polls, YOU KNOW people are pissed off. And they are pissed off at?

See above, privilege, sleaze, elitism, partisan bickering and all these wonderful promises, promises they say will "fix" things, but nothing ever changes. I have been hearing the same **** about illegals for 40 years. Four ****ing decades and the only thing that has changed is the numbers and the lies. For fifty plus years I have been hearing the exact same **** about gun control after every mass killing, of which there are too many, but that part of the equation simply is never addressed, never talked about. Not. One. Thing. Has. Changed.

Soon, maybe this election cycle, I sure as **** hope, the populace is going to go crazy, I have seen it many times. When the PQ were elected in Quebec, the Conservatives in Saskatchewan, the NDP here.....but they erupt and say enough is enough and vote OUT what was there, what comes IN becomes irrelevant.

The madness/mood is change. Period. Change for the sake of change, anyone who seems to be making sense. Buy it, worry about the warranty later. In this milieu it is now really unlikely, amid this pile of privileged goo, anyone wanting change would tilt in her direction, it is impossible for her to claim "reformer"...she's old school, play the system, take every advantage and lie when your husband ****s another woman.

The garbage accumulates, but I'm wondering, if this mood for change is real and strong enough, is she even relevant, when one is looking for a new broom, I doubt one would shop at Hilary's
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well written and I think you capture the mood of much of the electorate here in the US.

But. she still is favored to win the nomination -she's not inevitable, but she's such a shape shifter, and the Dems are more then willing to nominate her
as long as she can win (craven character that she is notwithstanding)..
Plus many people still want that first woman president..what I'm saying is she is a horrible character, and a terrible nominee
but with the inbuilt Democratic edge in the electoral college..i wouldn't be surprisedif she infects the Oval Office for the next 8 years
 
pbrauer said:
I think I am in that position. Even if she was guiltily of your charges, there little chance she be indicted on flimsy charges. Can you see what would happen to our country if a major candidate were indicted?
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That would be cool wouldn't it? I would laugh my ass off. History in the making and it might happen.
 
matchlight said:
You're just attacking her because you are threatened by the fact she is an intelligent, powerful woman! When will the Repugnican haters ever stop this war against women?
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Wow!

Like awesome!

As is we have never ever heard that defense before. Through all the crap in the 1990's, her shenanigans with Libya, dodging bullets, and all the rest not once ever has anyone said that!
 
matchlight said:
You're just attacking her because you are threatened by the fact she is an intelligent, powerful woman! When will the Repugnican haters ever stop this war against women?
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pbrauer said:
I think I am in that position. Even if she was guiltily of your charges, there little chance she be indicted on flimsy charges. Can you see what would happen to our country if a major candidate were indicted?
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If Hillary is indicted, which I doubt will happen, it would be justice served. That's good for the country. There has been so much lawlessness by our government and it's high officials over the years - in both parties - it's time for it to end. She's guilty. There's no doubt at all she knowingly violated national security laws. Your only interest here is whether or not she'll get away with it. If she does, that's just great from your perspective. That's not a perspective I share. Besides, I'm not too keen on anybody from any political party violating national security for personal advancement.
 
matchlight said:
Trouble is, the FBI is part of the executive branch--meaning that its marching orders finally come from President Pinocchio. I can't see him ever raising a finger against his fellow Marxist.
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That is true.....but then BO peep didn't think about how his Justice Dept can be hooked up after he is out of Office. Nor how much Flak BO will be taking after his time comes to an end.

I am going to luv making his life miserable. Right here in Chicago. If the peep breaks to Hawaii or to live in NY. You now know why. :lol:
 
pbrauer said:
I think I am in that position. Even if she was guiltily of your charges, there little chance she be indicted on flimsy charges. Can you see what would happen to our country if a major candidate were indicted?
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Can you see how those overseas governments wont trust her or anything she says. Nor her people. As it is clear for those overseas. She is nothing more than a pathological liar.

She will be nothing but a detriment to this Nation and nothing more than a benefit to our enemies.
 
MMC said:
Can you see how those overseas governments wont trust her or anything she says. Nor her people. As it is clear for those overseas. She is nothing more than a pathological liar.

She will be nothing but a detriment to this Nation and nothing more than a benefit to our enemies.
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I'm thinking 1 definite perjury count and 1 likely unless she is able to make a "To the best of my knowledge" defense stick.
 
bubbabgone said:
I'm thinking 1 definite perjury count and 1 likely unless she is able to make a "To the best of my knowledge" defense stick.
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Heya B. :2wave: Gowdy can prove at least 10 outright lies. At least 4 of them under her signing penalty of perjury. He should not go light on her at all. She needs to be Humiliated before the Nation and shown as an incompetent, shady, and corrupt politician and bureaucrat.
 
humbolt said:
If Hillary is indicted, which I doubt will happen, it would be justice served. That's good for the country. There has been so much lawlessness by our government and it's high officials over the years - in both parties - it's time for it to end. She's guilty. There's no doubt at all she knowingly violated national security laws. Your only interest here is whether or not she'll get away with it. If she does, that's just great from your perspective. That's not a perspective I share. Besides, I'm not too keen on anybody from any political party violating national security for personal advancement.
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LOL You know she knowingly violented national security laws. Where is you evidence? This whole charade Benghazi/email scandal is an attempt to get Hillary out of the race. If that wasn't the case, the Republicans would wait and make it an October surprize.

It's too bad for the Republicans that Rep. Kevin McCarthy let the truth being on the Hannity Show.

FWIW, I don't believe Hillary Clinton knowing broke national security laws.
 
pbrauer said:
LOL You know she knowingly violented national security laws. Where is you evidence? This whole charade Benghazi/email scandal is an attempt to get Hillary out of the race. If that wasn't the case, the Republicans would wait and make it an October surprize.

It's too bad for the Republicans that Rep. Kevin McCarthy let the truth being on the Hannity Show.

FWIW, I don't believe Hillary Clinton knowing broke national security laws.
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That's because you don't know much about national security laws. Knowing national security laws and proper handling of classified materials are essential, basic requirements of being SoS. Either Hillary was incompetent or knowingly broke them. So if you're saying she was incompetent, that's fine with me. I think she is. But I also happen to think she knowingly broke them, and so does the FBI, the CIA, at least some of her assistents, and the IG. As I've been saying for some weeks now, we'll find out exactly what's going on around the end of January or early February. Wonder why Biden is jumping in at this late date? Do you think he's doing that because Hillary's popularity is going to rebound?
 
humbolt said:
That's because you don't know much about national security laws. Knowing national security laws and proper handling of classified materials are essential, basic requirements of being SoS. Either Hillary was incompetent or knowingly broke them. So if you're saying she was incompetent, that's fine with me. I think she is. But I also happen to think she knowingly broke them, and so does the FBI, the CIA, at least some of her assistents, and the IG. As I've been saying for some weeks now, we'll find out exactly what's going on around the end of January or early February. Wonder why Biden is jumping in at this late bdate? Do you think he's doing that because Hillary's popularity is going to rebound?
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Hillary's popularity has gone down in some states, that's because there are more Democrats (Bernie Sanders) in the race than before. It's not because of the email controversy, polls always tighen as the race progresses.
 
pbrauer said:
LOL You know she knowingly violented national security laws. Where is you evidence?
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Classified emails authored and sent by Hillary that were classified at the time that they were written, put onto an unclassified server, and then sent.

FWIW, I don't believe Hillary Clinton knowing broke national security laws.
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Then you have to believe that she was intellectually incompetent to the position of Secretary of State.
 
pbrauer said:
Hillary's popularity has gone down in some states, that's because there are more Democrats (Bernie Sanders) in the race than before. It's not because of the email controversy, polls always tighen as the race progresses.
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Hillary's poll numbers have been declining since 2013. In fact, her highest poll number was in 2011. I can understand that you'd prefer to think it's Sanders, but reality describes a different cause for her slide.
 
MMC said:
She will be nothing but a detriment to this Nation and nothing more than a benefit to our enemies.
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All the more reason for the anti-American leftists in this country to love her! Like their hero B. Hussein Obama, they resent this country and want to see it humbled.
 
pbrauer said:
Hillary's popularity has gone down in some states, that's because there are more Democrats (Bernie Sanders) in the race than before. It's not because of the email controversy, polls always tighen as the race progresses.
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Keep telling yourself that, by all means. But I know the sound of whistling past the graveyard when I hear it.
 
cpwill said:
Classified emails authored and sent by Hillary that were classified at the time that they were written, put onto an unclassified server, and then sent.



Then you have to believe that she was intellectually incompetent to the position of Secretary of State.
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So she wrote something and didnt know it was classified? BFD I don't think she was incompetent, of course you do because you don't want her running against the Republican candidate. I am quite sure you've never been SoS so you don't know what they are expected to know.
 
humbolt said:
Hillary's poll numbers have been declining since 2013. In fact, her highest poll number was in 2011. I can understand that you'd prefer to think it's Sanders, but reality describes a different cause for her slide.
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Hillary hasn't been running for president that long.
 
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